December 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: I'M PUTTING AN END TO THAT STUPID GRAMMAR THING HERE, SO READ THIS.
by Jarkko Fr�ntil� 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

ABOUT GRAMMAR: Ok, fist (hahahahha...sigh) things first. This is a fact now. The form people use today is, as you all well know, "It is me", not "It is I". How do I know, being a Finn and all? Well, I tried to get in to the University of Helsinki last year to study english, and I had to read this pretty funny book about the use of the english language. Not too many pictures in that book, but I managed to read it through. Anyhow, one of the things the writer talked about was just that "It is I/It is me"-thing. Let me explain this now, once and for all, so you don't have to fight about it anymore: "It is me" is the form people use now. "It is I" was in use about a 100 years ago. Well, all languages change. So did english, and for some reason "It is I" became "It is me". The form "It is I" can still be used, but what's the point in that? It sounds clumsy, doesn't it? But some time ago some professors and other wanks in the UK started to fight about the use of the english language. They said that "It is me" sounded clumsy and is used by ignorant and lower class people, so it should be replaced with the older, more noble form, "It is I". All the hell broke loose. The professors were made ridicilous after someone wrote a letter to them and told them that "My name is John" sounded soething like "G'hilt no John" about 700 years ago in England. Maybe they should fight for that too? After all, if they fought for "It is I" so much, why stop there? Hmm, I just read what I had written and it seems a bit confusing. Hope this helped someone, though. @--->--- a rose, love and other pretty things, jarkko fräntilä, waiting for the evening. It's friday, you know. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: dundee on the tv
by Christa Chaffinch 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

Wednesday night on the quiz show "Jeopardy" Dundee, Scotland, was one of the answers. in the question, er, i mean answer, they said it was a steel town. i was wondering if that is one of the reasons why it has a "reputation" as being a rather dank place? here in the US, towns and cities that are traditionally "industrial" with steel mills, or car factories, or mines, have a sort of gray and sad essence to them, and aren't exactly hotbeds of art and culture. well, that isn't as much the case now as it was say, 25 years ago, but the "reputation" still follows these places. in light of the past discussions on the working class, and Dundee, etc. this seemed relevant to me. anyhoo, i was just wondering. christa in my stomach: pineapple, strawberries, and 'lemon lift' tea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Whatafoolami
by WeeJay 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

A little ink polaroid taken on the way here: This is me standing sheepishly next to an old ruin in the middle of town with my palm being read by a gypsy girl who just sold me a sprig of heather. She's got a glasss crystal thing in my hand and is telling me a lot of things that are patently obvious - I'm afraid of what people think (the way I'm hiding in a corner and avoiding her eye) and that I'm (hands covered in calouses and general look of having been up all night writing) a 'creative' person... Actually, you can tell from the picture that I'm unaware of the ridiculousness of the situation because I clearly have a huge crush on her and am about to hand her more money than I can afford. I was conned alright... At least she didn't call me 'Madam' like 2 big issue vendors on the same route... Well at least I've learned my lesson now and I will try to avoid her gaze (*sigh*) in future... "Tell us about your life..." - Ok, I'll tell you about last night. We sat and drank at extortionate prices in the Union bar - That would be me, one of my bands '$tolen Grand' and a boy from my halls who is the spitting image of Alanis Morrisette (You have to see it to believe it). We talked about music, matches, nail varnish, the session they'd just had in the studio, but mostly how we all were in love with the barmaid who looks like Shirley Manson. On the way out Dan called her Shirley and she turned to the other barmaid and said 'Why did he call me Shirley?' We went back to Natalie (bass)'s flat and drank her alcopops and felt smug when we saw that she posessed a 'Savage Garden' CD. Then there was a fire alarm and we had to vacate the building. Natalie dropped lots of hints so we left her and a now almost comatose Dan alone in her room... She hasn't got a chance though, what with dan's 'unfailing loyalty' and all that... I'm sure that would have been better as a few ink polariods itself but I'm afraid I really couldn't be bothered.... talking of which, the ink polaroid site on jeepster hasn't been updated since it was put up and we've had some good ones since then. What's going on, people? Where are they now (people who haven't posted recently): Fluffy Sarah, Honey Paul, Philippe? Hey, only asking. Nick Dastoor claims falsely that he's never had a nickname. Nick, we all know that it's Nick Dastardly. I'd like to have a list hug but I'm not going to because I can't bring myself to touch brad. He smells of sweat and blood. Vanessa said: > OOOhh my goodness people like that ... I was actually out for a > drink this morning with my mate and as soon as the waiter left > our table m,y mate turned to me and told me he thought the > waiter was gay didn't I agree .... I never know what to say to > these things really ... but then again words won't change a thing > most of the time ... Hmmmn, last night, as above, Natalie attempted to persuade me that I'm bisexual. She insisted that I fancied Jarvis Cocker. I don't think so though... It's pretty rare for me to get an attachment to a man in that way... although I don't see how you're not going to get slightly interested by listening to 'Sheffield: Sex City' well,.... I've joined jesicaxo's Twee Socks club like a good boy... Well, I've tried to at least. That yahoo thing is so bloody minded and beauraeucratic...! I'll try again now, but as yet I havent been able to actually log on. That's enough for now. I'm going to make a little sign for my door that says 'WeeJay lives here.' I was going to try and get a better picture of myself up, but I cant be arsed... it's a lot of bother. if anyone wants to see it I'll put it up but you probably don't. *Yawn* WeeJay xxxxxxxxxxxxx In my pockets: Cardfile, loose change, keys, bottle opener, gold nail varnish, emery boards, diary, disks, pen, note of unsmutty content. James(a)twopounds.u-net.com "I know there's a lot of bass players in the audience tonight, I know living amongst the constructions that the people in power have built doesn't feel so right" mAKE UP - "We Can't Be Contained" http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Life is absurd
by Arantxa Sanz 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

HI!!!!! After such a long and fruitful discussion about greatest shagging hits in this list, when my first snogging-with-clothes-on with someone also in the list takes place, it is in complete silence. Not soundtrack at all. I am afraid none of us learnt very much from that lecture. Now , I think I would have chosen 'underwear', (seminaked in somebody else's room...) The Pastels are playing in Nott. next Thursday with Marine Research. I don't know these latter , but have been told they are good.Let's see!Someone in the list is interested in listening to my friend's band, Bob Tilton, I will have to ask him a dinner because of my work as volunteer PR.And I have calculated sucessfully Helium ground state. And 'Henry Fool'is finally opening tomorrow here. Friday 4th November deserves a poem, at least. Leslie Jo : you are wrong about who has the cutest blue veined arms , sorry very much... Optimistically yours and looking eagerly to travel in trams Arantzazuko -> my true full , Basque name Agur ta gero arte., Mr P Miller +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: put your clothes on and stand in the doorway!
by Heather Marie Propes 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

That's what I was shouting to Anders, my Danish fiance this morning at 4:16 am, as I assumed the role of the experienced Californian and guided him through his first earthquake. It lasted about 5 seconds or so and sounded like two teams of wild horses were simultaneously running over our roof and underneath the floor, I think that we were right next to the epicenter. It's always scary just after an earthquake because you don't know when the aftershocks are going to come and all you can do is sit and listen to the radio. This morning's event had no aftershocks, but it was nervewracking going back to bed because there is a heavy stained glass window right above our heads and countless framed prints all around our bed (this was not my decorating disaster - we're subletting). We listened to KPFA - the Berkeley community radio station a bit - but their D'J's were just making fun of it "yet another little hiccup in the pregnant California fault lines, as we all sit around waiting impatiently for the big one to strike us down," or something like that. They tell me the next big one's going to hit the midwest. Great. Anders and I are moving to Michigan in two weeks. Ciao, the shakin yank Heather Marie Propes asbuch(a)midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Mogwai
by Wyplosz,C 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

Is anyone going to the Mogwai (and other bands) gig in LOndon on January 23 at the Astoria? I'm going and wouldn't mind meeting a few listees. Clem +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Homphobes
by Vanessa R. Siegl 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

>shirt my gay friend made: "SMASH THE WHOLE >CLOSEMINDED HETEROSEXUAL CULTURE." Well, this drunken woman shows up >and somehow she sees what's written on my shirt. >.............................. >Needed. It's always annoying to think of something about a gazillion >minutes after the incident has happened, but still, any ideas how I >could have insulted her? OOOhh my goodness people like that ... I was actually out for a drink this morning with my mate and as soon as the waiter left our table m,y mate turned to me and told me he thought the waiter was gay didn't I agree .... I never know what to say to these things really ... but then again words won't change a thing most of the time ... love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950(a)uibk.ac.at _gapminder(a)yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Never had a nickname (except Joey Deacon and I didn't like it)
by Martin_Conneely＠finance.irlgov.ie 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

1. Joey Deacon (the artist formerly known as Nick Dastoor) wrote: "<<Even if you don't have children, he's teaching them in some insidious way. Who on the list has got children apart from that Martin Connelly>> Weren't there lots of news items last year about the UK Child Support Agency hounding and persecuting absent fathers who weren't supporting their children. Even fathers who hardly had the wherewithal to support themselves. Maybe that Agency has taken on that Joey Deacon as a bounty hunter. Should UK males beware before anwering the question? 2, Also, <<no.. barrage of posts just listing fave records. Weave them magically into other posts..>> Here goes with the weaving: Seamus thought that "eugene kelley was no good at all", which was why I found it so hard to find the message when I searched for kelly with one "e" :). He played support for Superstar in Dublin last Tuesday, so I had to miss the CS Lewis programme as I hoped Eugene K would do some songs from Eugenius: "Mary Queen of Scots". IMHO, it's one of the best LPs ever: pure melody and a beautful voice (IYFS would be No. 1). He did his best for the 25 of us who were there when he started but I suppose he thought we had never heard of him. Sorry I couldn't make the weaving magical. 3. I was away from the list for a few weeks and never saw the outcome of the "dose of thrush while licking railings" LLPJ controversy. In the west of Ireland, we used to talk of giving a door, say, a "lick of paint". If that usage carried into Scots (which could easily happen)it would just mean that she got a dose of thrush while painting railings. Maybe she just got in the way of some thrush-shit while painting those railings. Would that solve it all? Martin C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ready Steady Go
by Warrander John - FML 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

Hello All, The lovely Anne from Glasgow sent me the URL for a top pop web site called "Ready Steady Go" which has lots of nice pieces about many wonderful bands including the truly magical "Sagittarius" and "Millennium". These were the brain childs of pop genius Curt Boettcher with the multi-talented Gary Usher lending a helping hand. If you haven't got any Sagittarius or Millennium records and you love "Pet Sounds" then I'd have a quick read of the Curt Boettcher article then swiftly make your way to CDNow who have reissues of "Present Tense" and "Begin", both of which are absolutely sumptuous and a snip at whatever price they're selling at. The site's well worth a visit and can be found at: http://freespace.virgin.net/paul.ritchie/readysteadygo.html There's also a Gainsbourg article which includes a quote from our hero about the naughty Frenchman: Stuart Murdoch of Britain's most poetic new band BELLE and SEBASTIAN remembers how he first discovered Gainsbourg. "I was listening to John Peel and heard Bardot singing this wild motorcycle hymn "Harley Davidson." I can't speak French but I taught myself how to sing it and play it on the piano. My flatmate at that time was a French scholar and he would bring French friends round and they would laugh hearing me singing this great French song in such a funny Scottish/French accent. I got this compilation next and although I couldn't understand the words it was filled with these amazingly different sonic sensations." Also, Norwegian pop funsters "Kings of Convenience" will be playing an acoustic set downstairs at The Star and Garter in Manchester tomorrow. I think it's probably free to get in and I have it on good authority that they are wonderful. Not sure when it all starts, but it finishes at 11pm and there's two bands (the other lot are "Alfie", a local band from Salford) so nothing much will happen before 9pm I'd guess. The End Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Twee goings on
by Rob ASH 04 Dec '98

04 Dec '98

hello there, my name's rob, although I've been subscribing to the list for a coupla weeks now this is the first time I've actually sent something. The other day I happened upon a really great 24 track CD compilation of loads of Twee bands, the names of which I cannot recall, and it wouldn't matter if I listed them 'cause they're all really obscure ('though I can remember The Duglessettes, white town, and fluf, fluff, fluff, fluff, fluff and cuddle). anyway, 24 tracks at the bargain price of 1.99 courtesy of my local SCOPE charity shop. (y'know they used to be called the spastics society but that weren't cool so they changed the name, so kids now call each other scopes instead of spastics, so I've been told by my mate's younger brother) I also found some old Creation compilations, loads of pastels, felt, house of love and similarly twee indie goin's on. Methinks I'm goin' crazy, how much twee can one person take, I mean at the moment its all I listen to. Maybe I'll have some kind of adverse reaction and suddenly start liking korn, marilyn manson, deftones, coal chamber, metallica, etc, etc... just like one of my mates did, he used to be a big B&S fan but somehow almost overnight turned into a greaser, taking all his fey indiennonsense to mistersecond hand record shop and trading it in for something with a bit more kkkkkrunch. (a cautionary tale I feel....) well, I better go now... hugs and cuddles to you all, rob * wot I am listening to at the moment: the tap tap of computers as many lazy students attempt to type up their essays for 4:00PM today. wot I'm listening to on my knackered stereo: nu boo's LP field mice compliation creation compilations roddy frame 'reason for living' mercury rev 'goddess on a highway' SFA 'outspaced' ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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