February 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Tigermilk (review)
by Northy's Labour voting and less evil twin br 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

Hey list I thought you'd like a review of Tigermilk from a first time listener (thanx going out to Ben at Brookes) 9/10 Random Tigermilk thoughts: Is the "State I am In" different to the EP version. It is groovier and definitely better IMO. Expectations has possibly the greatest lyrics ever in the world. You're just a baby is such a cool song. Electronic Renaissance is OK but a bit tuneless. I could be dreaming is good. We Rule the School is just such a fantsastic song. I love it. For me though, the highlight of the album has to be I don't love Anyone. The chord changes in this are Beatles esque melodic. Nothing touches this song. I do know why they're not broadcasting those US sessions though. They sound like a bootleg performance! Peace People Northy's Labour voting less evil twin brother _________________________________________________________ "I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does" Mozzer - sometime in 1980s _________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Sinister: I know what I want to do this summer
by Elisabeth Zachariassen 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

Katrina wrote: >i've met anough fantastic people on this list (by e-mail and in person) >to think (maybe foolishly) that we could make somethng like this happen >this summer ... any suggestions? > Katrina, you really made me long for the summer with your descriptions! At the moment there are so much snow outside, that i can't even look out of the window.(that's Norway for you)I actually live on the fourth floor, but the windows are sort of eh..not straight. And sometimes the wind brings some of the cold white material into my livingroom.(angry note to my landlord for not fixing the window!) But anyway, I'm moving to London this spring, so I'm definitiely up for a picnic or something. Should I note that I'm brilliant at Stiv Heks (formerly known as that-game-where-you-have-tocrawl-through-someones-legs-so-that-they-can-move -again - statues or something. ) Elisabeth Z ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Sinister: My new career
by PKHINTZ＠aol.com 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

A few days ago someone mentioned that at the beginning of "Expectations" there is a noise that sounds mysteriously like a zipper. Well, I had always thought that that noise was, to be polite, a blemish in the vinyl. Over the weekend I listened to that sound over and over, and it does sound much like a zipper. I found my wooly sweater with a zipper and practiced that solo by zipping and unzipping my sweater for hours on end. I am thinking of recording some demos of my new found talent--Matthew the zipper musician. Today at work I thought that maybe I should travel to Glasgow and receive Stuart M.'s blessing for my new musical career. Of course last week I thought I should go to Paris and play Orange Juice covers on the street corners. At this rate of decline, next week I will be probably playing a rock, or something else less-musical. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

RE: Sinister: First time I have ever laughed out loud at an email...
by PJMiller 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

-----Original Message----- De: Jeepster Recordings Ltd <jeepster.uk(a)virgin.net> Para: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Fecha: lunes 2 de febrero de 1998 19:44 Asunto: Re: Sinister: First time I have ever laughed out loud at an email... >> Hows about a BESEEN chat on one the Belle and Sebastian page? >> They are great! > >Hows about a what? > >i don't understand anymore .... > >Katrina. > I'm not sure, but i imagine it's something to do with those little cameras that you stick on top of your computer so that other people can see the top of your head while you're typing away merrily with two fingers. Which is what I've been doing all afternoon. I've also listened to the entire Rolling Stones single collection, for which I think I deserve a medal, and Astral Weeks by Van Morrison, which is kind of Belle and Sebastian-ish sounding, only with more of an epic sweep. I enjoyed it very much and can't for the life of me understand why I hardly ever listen to it. January is over, February is here, and with it a brand new sense of fun and adventure. Am I right, or am I wrong? In short, in the words of the late, great Marvin Gaye, "Let's Get It On". I haven't had the pleasure of actually physically meeting anyone off the list yet, but I've gained lots of cyber chums, received tapes, books and CDs from fellow listees, and have inflicted my own appalling musical tastes on a few people. As if that wasn't enough, somewhere between Edinburgh and Renteria, a fat lardy-arsed post office employee is no doubt enjoying a few pounding slabs of high octane progressive rock. So I think the list is well worthwhile, even if we all get a bit ratty and shirty and generally tempramental from time to time. Let us all give praise to Honey, winner of the Tweenet award for best supporting e-mail list 1997. If he wins it three years on the trot he gets to keep Andy Dean forever, so come on now, all together, let's have a nice warm hand on Paul's entrance. By the way, I just tried to burst into the chat room and it wouldn't bloody well let me. Try again. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Sinister: Sarah / Ian Brown *no B&S content*
by northy 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

Sarah - I haven't got your email this is why I am sending to the list I think it was you that said you write a fanzine? anyway - here is something for a joke or something. I dunno, I have never read a music fanzine before WHY THE FUCK IS IAN BROWN DOING AN INTERVIEW IN EVERY SINGLE BLOODY MAGAZINE, BE IT MUSIC or LADS MAGAZINE!!!!! Although that is not funny you could mould it into something like "Ian Brown is doing an EXCLUSIVE interview for the Thurrockshire Ladies Bowling Club's annual magazine" Something like that! Bye Northy BEN FERNYBOROUGH _ MY MAIL TO YOU GOT SENT BACK SO A BIG THANK YOU FOR TIGERMILK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanx, thanx ______________________________________________________ "Everyday, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" Cerys Matthews - 1998 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Sinister: Killing an ARAB and BOGSHED
by Keith Watson 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

>> Ultrasound looking absolutely fucking brilliant though. What a song >> they placed!! I think I will see them at the Conway Hall in London >> now. I was gonna see Cornershop but naahhhh! Indeed the track on the NME tape is lovely, my mate tells me the current single's a bit dull but what a track on the NME tape, certainly brings Marquee Moon to mind, but in a very good way. The annoying bit being the fact that this bloke out of Ultrasound's taking such a slagging for being a big bloke, even the fucking NME's joining in on this, can't they just leave him to get on with it, it's very poor form, and the track I've heard is way beyond the capacity of many a young band (one band from Edinburgh with a little pink haired chap in it springs to mind! Idlewild who are getting the most ridiculous amount of press attention at the moment - due to them having released a single on "Mr.Indie" Steve Lamacq's label used to play to a completely bored audience at the student union in Edinburgh last year, this years Ned's Atomic Dustbin... Oh, that's Symposium is it? Well This years second Ned's Atomic Dustbin perhaps). Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

2 1

Sinister: RE:Tigermilk
by Matthew Neimark 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

>TIGERMILK >surprise~! i am not asking for a copy! >does anyone know how the name for the album came about? i know that >you >can basically name an album whatever you wish and not have to have a >meaning in it but i thought there might be something behind it.. I heard, perhaps falsely, that it was Nick Drake's brand of milk formula when he was still a wee baby. Perhaps that is what gave him such a rich baritone voice. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Sinister: he said the world was as soft as lace
by Sarah 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

Ok, if it is OK by everyone else I shall to back to chatting about just B&S stuff thought type thingy doodhahs, oui? OK, well last night (the dreaded Sunday, you can probably blame mywhole homicidal/suicidal depression and frustration on the bloody Sunday) I was doing my ironing, and listning to Tigermilk. And as soon as the State I am In started, I just got to thinking, now wouldn't this be an ace pop video! I could just imagine a video of a girl doing the ironing nd household chores thing working really well with that. No band needed to act in vid, maybe a few shots of band, perhaps on poster when she takes irnoing upstairs. Expectations got me really bitter about my old schooldays (ooh, all of a year ago!) and the video for that would have oviously been set in the locations named in the song, like the school canteen where she doesn't know what to choose and she's stabbed WITH A FORK which is so mean, and cruel... Electronic Renaissance I didnt think f a vid for cos I was be-boppin' along to the toe' tappin' disco beat, even though give me a it and no doubt I will come up with a great one! We rule the School was a nice one. B&S would all be stood on a little stage, like a school stage for a nativity play, with an audience of parents etc. And it would start off with a full body close shot of Stuart Murdoch, who would be stood wit one foot crossed over the other, and shyly singing, and looking sweetly at the camera. Then it would cut to the audience, and pan across it, perhaps focusing in on people with particular looks/expressions. Then perhaps, I'm sorry I can't remeber exact song structure at the mo', back to the band on stage. When he starts singing 'on the first bus out of town...', the band would all be sat upstairs on a bus taking up the middle seats. There would be the smokers at the back. The shot would take in the bands faces, and then go to a pov shot out of the windows, where various scenery would go past, ie a school, buildings, and as it progresses out of town, fields etc. And finally, we're back at the school, the songs finishes, B&S walk off the stage to the sounds of the parents clapping. It would be lit like a nativity play, ie bright stage and dim audience. But the happiest one was to 'I don't love anyone'. Wow, its such a bouncy, jumpy fantastic song! It starts off in a little 'indie-disco style', like a little club room, with lots of people bouncing about and 'grooving' to the song, all with happy happy joy joy grins on their faces, the band would be playing the tune on stage, Stuart with his guitar (in WRTS, Stuart would just be singing and wouldn't be playing his guitar), and everyone else with their instrumnent bla bla. I forget the rest, it'll come back to me when I listen to the song again In the instrumental part, this bit I thought sounded really great, I'd laugh anyway. There would be the band all together perhaps either playing football or dancing, and looking really happy, and the camera wold freeze-frame on thei faces and perhaps flash up their name and maybe some cheesey info. They'd obviously be cheesey, like i can just imagine RICHARD (riiichard!) doing a fake thumbs up grin meister! And then back at the happy indie disco. it would be a fun pop, I would say bubblegum but I don't actually like it, video which would make people happy and think B&S were a realyl groovey happy bunch of peeps! WEll, the images made me happy. Um, well thats enough for me now, sorry about my screaming (well, capital letters) email last night and stuff, .....um, well, i shouldn't be sorry. So I'm not sorry and I lied but never mind because in the grand overall scheme of things it don't matter. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Yours faithfully, the beautiful only slightly homicidal Sarah BLOKE :"How about we....skip desert tonight...." BIRD :"Why! What else...do you have in mind!" BLOKE :"Nothing. Its just that you're a bit fat already innit?" SHE LEAVES BLOKE :"Check please." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Re: Sinister: A Slight Resemblance
by Me 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

> All this talk of Field Mice/Northern Picture Library/Trembling Blue > Stars has gotten me curious about the new album. How does it compare to > their older stuff? I liked the Rainbow cd single, I was hoping for more > of the same, though I think you hardcore fans of this group didn't like > the cd single that much. Its cool! It follows the pattern of the first TBS album, really, half acoustic and half along the lines of The Rainbow. And almost all still wallowing in misery, but hey, its done in such style.... Top track: Headlights. And to whoever said it was out on Feb. 9th... its not. I found it (much to my surprise) last week. Never trust a Shinkansen release date... Nick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And the sad part is... You do my world the world of good e-mail: ggy3swm4(a)novell2.bham.ac.uk~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And the sad part is..... You do my world the world of good e-mail: ggy3swm4(a)novell2.bham.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

Sinister: Will this do?
by Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

David, an idea for a B&S competition: How about "Guess the future of Belle and Sebastian" in a kind of clairvoyant 'rock biog' way? Potted histories only of course. Sarah wrote: >And will someone tell em why my messages keep coming through with shite >like =20 on them al the time? Cos they are doing my tree. I never get >any numbers right! Hmmm.. I think pound signs are the main stumbling block. I expect there's some clever answer to do with ASCII conversion protocols or something. Let's have a go: >Are they like censorship? Like '=46uck'????? No, but a friend who works at a revolting financial institution has all her e-mail vetted in a wonderfully draconian way. If you send her a message with a rude word in it gets bounced back at you. Astonishingly, the list of banned words extends to 'bottom', which can obviously be used in really quite legitimate senses. Reminds me of the nanny web software that banned access to a site about the town Scunthorpe (work it out). Megan wrote: >also, _don't_look_back, the >documentary about bob dylan is showing at the film forum in new york. is >it worth seeing for someone who isn't terribly interested in him as a >singer? Well I saw it on telly a while before buying any of his records and enjoyed it. Particularly memorable was the scene in which he was very rude to a bunch of earnest young fans that was mobbing him and asking why why why had he sold out to the evils of amplified guitars. What musical direction could Belle & Sebastian take that would engender such hostilty? I realise that for some of you they got in early with "Electronic Rennaisance" but bearing in mind that they haven't repeated that particular trick... Or all we all eclectic now? That dubiously titled fellow wrote: >I'm talking of Devine & Statton, one of the first names that came to my >mind after listening to BandS. >Is it me, or they (and their former band Young Marble Giants) were/are >inspirational for many bands? <sigh> Devine and Statton's "Under the Weather" is a dream. A nasty dream, mind you, unpleasant enough for me not to be able to put in on any tape I ever made for my girlfriend, in case she took it personally. A perennial problem that. Talking of dreams, I had my B&S dream the other night. Well, to be precise it was a rather embarrassing B&S mailing list dream. In it, I somehow ended up offering to let Paedophile Paul (poor boy's gone a bit quiet since the great baby picture scandal shit hit the fan) stay at my house for a while. It turned out he was a hideous one-legged dwarf (I kid you not) but I tried to disguise my shock and take him out on the town, go shopping and stuff. It reminded me of having to do the same with my french exchange partner many moons ago. Not that he was a one-legged dwarf or anything. But he did have dandruff. Tag wrote: >we should be using all >this we get from these records, making everyone laugh (like Peter and >Susannah), writing witty little anecdotes about their lives (like >Genevieve), or making films, getting together, forming bands, opening >clubs, launching plans for an international pop underground magazine. >Otherwise the rest of the world has every right to call us a bunch of >fucking losers. I'll defend their right to do so till my dying day. But yeah - anyone want make a film or form a band with me? Or does it not work like that? How perfect the story is of Belle & Sebastian all meeting that cafe one night? Ranks up there with Johnny Marr pressing his chocolatey nose up to that odd kid from Stretford's window, or that fateful church bazaar (hey!) encounter between Lennon & McCartney. I dream of such things. At our school the only people who formed bands were rubbish and into Eric Clapton. By university it was even worse - the people with guitars were into things like Fretblanket. Never stumbled across any kindred spirits with musical pretensions. Perhaps I should hang out at more church functions. Anyway, forming a band at university is never a good move, is it? Can anyone think of a good exception? As for making films, well I _have_ already acted in one (show off alert!) and a TV series. It's always good having one claim to fame, although the thought of peaking at the age of 13 is a little depressing. Look me up in the IMDB (my surname's only had one 'o' in it then). But yes, actually properly making films would be a whole different thing. Which reminds me, did Susannah ever develop her fantastic attempts to mock up all the B&S covers with a self-timer camera? Phew, Nick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

2 1