July 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: B&S Gigs
by John Stuart/mail+schedule 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Are there more UK gigs to be announced? I.e. Where's the fucks the Scottish dates?! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: 10 Reasons why Bernard Sumner is great
by Barrett R 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

A few people have been a bit rude, if funny too, about the lovely Barney, so here goes: 1 He was in Joy Division. Too dark for many, myself included most of the time, but anyone who appeared on the likes of "Atmosphere" and "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is doing something right. 2 That Voice. Not to everyone's taste it seems, but if you want technically good vocals try Simply Red. I prefer a bit of emotion, in the same way that the slower version of "Seeing Other People" is great because of and not in spite of the slightly off vocals. 3 Technique. Best album of the eighties. I know I'm the only person alive who thinks this, but bloody sod yer. 4 True Faith. "I feel so extraordinary" is the most uplifting line in a song ever. Great video too. 5 Electronic. The album that started it all for me. I quite liked music up to this point, but this started the obsessiveness. Some of it hasn't dated well, but anyone who doesn't like "Get The Message" doesn't like music. 6 World In Motion. Saying it's the best footy record ever is like saying Hale is funnier than Pace I know, but it is. 7 His guitar. Tragically underused in New Order, but when it is the results are fantastic. See "Regret" or "Love vigilantes". 8 Thieves Like Us 9 Bizarre Love Triangle 10 I'll get me coat too. Ronan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Goo Goo dolls
by Suzanne Schroeder 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:04:15 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jessica Murphy <jmurphy(a)UDel.Edu> > Subject: Re: Sinister: People won't accept.... > > On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Suzanne Schroeder wrote: > > > My top 10 list of artists who should give it up and go home: > > > > 5. goo Goo Dolls > > > Oh, I know... If I have to hear that song from the "City of Angels" > soundtrack ONE MORE TIME... I want everyone to look at their latest video and agree with me (well, you DON'T have to agree with me or that will be anti-existentialist) but the Goo Goo Dolls are the new Bon Jovi: 1. Lead singer's hair cuts have nice layer-y texture to them and are the same hair color. 2. Dolls have no other career except for making bloated singles for movies...Bon Jovi did this and starrred in a few to boot. 3. "Meaningful" lyrics. Only 3 points, but very damning. Even OJ Simpson couldn't get convicted on it, which tells you how compelling it is! BTW: what the heck is the Moz obsession on this group about? I figure there would be a bit of a crossover, but gee-golly wilikers. I'm a fan too, but it's weird to come here and see it here, also. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: PLEASE READ: help Sinister
by Honey 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Hello wee Sinisterons, I'm getting a little worried about the list, and I wonder if some of you could pat my head and tell me not to? Looking to the future, a few people have commented that with the upcoming LP and tours, we may get a very large influx of red-faced weeping excited new fans (unless of course the gigs are crap and the new LP stinks). I'm quaking a little in my booties because, as you know, the list is run on "borrowed" resources, both my time and more importantly my employer's hardware. I want to be able to keep running this list, but I need help from you lot. This month we've had 750 postings to the list - with 500 members on average that's over a third of a million mail messages my machine has sent out this month. It blew my socks off too. And it's summer. Now I've had a number of people recently mailing me, telling me the same and asking me to do something, that some of this email is unnecessary and of minority interest, i.e. 1 or 2 other people. I keep refraining from saying anything publically as it'll put off all you shy things who haven't said much, but there are a few who are posting little messages to each other like ping-pong. I've recently mailed a few people asking them to hold back a little and give others breathing space, and I hope they will, for the good of all, pay attention. I'm going to keep doing this for a while and see if it gets anywhere, and will take action if necessary if people don't respond. This will undoubtedly make me Pig Of The List, and all I can say is please don't take it personally, I'm doing it to make this thing survive. It's a very hard balance to strike, this. We mustn't all feel we need to post solely about the band but this is NOT a general music list, there are plenty of other lists with much better resources to do this, and you can join them, or indeed are welcome to make your own list. It's a community, and anything *thought out* and that you know will be of interest to others is welcome. HOWEVER, long-running debates about the Smiths, or indeed which bands you think are crap are out of place here if they encourage sourness (as someone said) and little scrappy fights that go on and on. Note the "long-running" - it's up to you to cut these short or take them offline and talk amongst yourselves; and of course it's fine to talk about other bands you think might be of interest to others. But messages that you could send to a friend or two privately, or indeed messages which you think make you look smart, are out of place here. I've said it a lot of times and I'll keep saying it, it's up to you to THINK before you post and not send out smart two line quips. Go look at the archives of the early days of this list, and please read the FAQ on the WWW site for rules of how to use this list. If you're posting more than 1 or just *maybe* 2 mails a day, or two-line replies, I'd hazard a guess you aren't thinking before hitting send, and aren't helping the list's chances of survival. Go away and have a think and package all your thoughts up into one mail please. It's a lot more efficient and makes it easier for the rest of us to read or skip. There's a few things I can do if this doesn't work, to protect my job and the quality of the list: 1. kill/suspend the list 2. restrict membership to a certain number which will have the effect of not letting you back on if you unsubscribe (unfortunately) 3. suspend people's ability to post who go "over quota" in a week. Frankly I think these range from sad to stupid, and require more effort for me, but I will do them if nothing else works. It's up to the few to respond and the rest of you (who I *know* like foxes and furry things with floppy ears and don't like fights) to politely make your feelings felt, NOT to the list, but to individuals you feel aren't making it easy on the list - copy your mails to me personally if you want. Otherwise I feel I'm fighting in isolation here, feel like I'm a miserable moan, and the list just won't be able to keep going that much longer. The other danger is of course that I'll keep having to post these messages and just get fed up doing it - I'm supposed to be having fun here too! Thank you for erm, listening, Honey xxx P.S. Some people are still hitting "reply" to messages to the list so I'm having to forward them. I'm going to stop now so your messages will be lost. Please read the FAQ. P.P.S. Debbie (Prior) - please mail me and check your incoming mail. Ta. Peee S. I had no volunteers to coordinate tapes and just three to do recordings, all UK, and I don't think it's fair or sustainable for them to get loaded with doing the world's tapes, so I'm afraid I'm going to just remove references to taping from my WWW site and requests will just hit the list. Strikes against the spirit of this message a bit but it's all I can do - let's hope we don't get a massive swell in September. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . 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Sinister: a message a day keeps the Honey away! (snigger)
by Erin Lewis 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

I have finished the U.S. tape tree lists and am waiting for a few stragglers to send me their snail-mail addresses. If your name is Lisa(LMJ216(a)aol.com) or Seamus Campbell, mail me ASAP or I cannot include you in the list. Keith and a few others suggested leaking songlists to the rest of the group. I think, once the tapes get going, people will take notice of the exceptional tapes and let everyone else know. Also, I think it was Birjinder who was wary of putting more accessible bands, e.g. Stone Roses, on his tape. I can pretty much guarantee there will be some people who have never heard any songs by the bands we claim as favorites, so i say put the songs on if you want to. I don't think it's so much an "indie" contest as it a sharing of beloved or interesting music that others may not have heard. -Erin, who loves you all, even if none of you have a crush on her :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Scottish Rock.
by Jen Jones 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

Now, I am not worldly. In fact, I have only ever been to Ontario Canada and was only because it was 20 minutes from Detroit. But I know that some of the best pop music of the late 80's and early 90's came from the British Isle and I believe most was of Scottish decent: 1) POOH STICKS: My chihuahua is under the impression that Sweet Baby James was written for him. You see, when Linus was a wee little guy ( weighing only 3 pounds when I brought him home) I sang to him all the time and "..who loves ya' pretty baby" was perfect.(if you sing to your animals they have better self esteem). I swear that he knows the 7" 'cus he starts running around when he sees the sleeve. 2) VASELINES: Tell me that Frances couldn't get you outta your seat! Dum-Dum was divinely inspired and yet no animals were sacraficed to insure this vinyl gem was as flawless as this. When most bands were trying to deny their pop heritage this ensemble were defying it. Only love could tear 'em apart. Bless them for sharing with us a vision of pop ectasy. 3) TEENAGE FANCLUB: Let's not judge by where they are but by where they have been: flashback 1992: TFC come to Detroit. Opening are Superchuck on their No Pocky tour. I went not expecting much but left floating on the yummiest pop cloud ever accumulated. In the dehydrating times of Soundgarden and Helmet, TFC was a tall, cool drink of water. My heart DID do flip-flops whenever they were near. fast-foward to 1994: In '94 I was able to meet them on the 13 tour. Brendon O'Hare ( bless his heart) was just like a dream. Norman was so kind you could've eaten him up and been full forever. I never really for getting rid of Brendon-sure he was a loose cannon but I loved that guy! GranPrix was rewarding in ways I had forgottan possible. Reality check circa 1997: I wish, however, I would have stayed away when they played here last summer. Bless their hearts, Denver wasn't receptive. For goodness sakes! it was free and nobody came. Seeing them up there playing to an empty hall singing Alcholiday was actually depressing. I hope that they find success in knowing at least they touch this american, ya know? and i must agree with Rich in regards to the BMX Bandits " Serious Drugs". Someday a boy will cut off a finger if I wanted ( i wouldn't require it, of course, but the sentiment will be there) Okay, post two accomplished, back to work. ( p.s. I'm gonna try to send this with out all the nspb crap) jen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: Re: Sinister: Northy raps his way to uni
by Richard North 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

-- --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:00 From: leslie.chinea(a)emimusic.com (leslie chinea) _________________________________ Subject: Sinister: Northy raps his way to uni Author: "Richard North" at X-MAIL Date: 2/26/98 9:21 AM Look out Bangor I'm on my way And keep yer distance if you're gay I'll need new pals and a piece of ass But kiss my butt all you working class Papa has dished out sheds of wedge my student living will be 'on the edge' His conglom has sponsored our new halls we'll have pictures of Cerys on everyone's walls I'll roll up spliffs in the union caff burn 'Das Kapital' for a laff I'll keep my stroke-mags to myself till I sneak them on the library shelf The 'Scurge of Lefties' will be my name Tag will beg to bask in my fame I'll buy this list & sell it you back I'll be a real pain in Paul's nutsac Bar or Biscuit? Laugh or Cackle! You won't believe the size of my Big Tackle We'll catch the catfish with a wee net the salacious results will be the talk of TweeNet Of such pisspoor rhyming I'm not worthy Ha! screw you, jack, my name's NORTHY (rhyme needs additional mixing time in the studio) Get your FREE, private e-mail account at http://www.mailcity.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- End Forwarded Message --------- Now MailCity offers forwarding so you can check your MailCity messages and other e-mail all in one place. Go to http://www.mailcity.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: I don't want to stay....
by Sweet & Tender Hooligan 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

OK, thanx for the advice, Smiths-fans. I bought that Rogan biogrophay today and it's damned fine. Very engrossing. Stargreen haven't even printed the Shep Bush tix yet but I've paid for them and should get them soon. Oh joy! Northy ______________________________________________________ "If home life wasn't unsatisfactory, we'd never leave" the Breakfast Club - 1984 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: camera obscura.....looper!
by Lzylnepntr＠aol.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

hey everybody! im looking for a copy of camera obscura and looper..if anyone has a copy of either or, please email me back for a trade or whatever..thanks! y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The tour..
by paula wiseman 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

I am gutted that I can't get to any of the 3 dates of the new tour. I would go to London if it was at the weekend. Oh well, never mind. Is it right that there will be some more dates added soon? One last thing, could anyone please tell me where I could find some chords for, "Judy and the Dream of Horses"? I'd be eternally grateful! Paula xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing, list rules, FAQs, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Nee, nee mun etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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