May 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: sinister:i have arrived
by Rollerg1rl＠aol.com 25 May '99

25 May '99

I have been set free to roam in sinister, I am no longer in the nursery!!!!Well as boring as this sounds this is all I have to say, sorry it's so boring. Just giving me hello to all and welcoming myself here. Mary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: misdirected post
by Justin Williams 25 May '99

25 May '99

I may or may not have just posted a personal e-mail to the list on accident, so if I did I apologize :\ Sorry to waste the list's time. Justin W +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Respons to Response to rebelstrange's message from a gayboy
by CALLENDAR R 24 May '99

24 May '99

I thought I'd just send a reply to Chris' message [below]. I totally agree with everything he says. Being gay, the 'scene' is ultimately annoying. I go out and have fun, but at times the whole bitchyness/competativeness gets on my nerves. Another annoying thing is that, if you don't like Techno/bangin' house or camp Hnadbag music (or remixes of Steps, B*Witched or Spice Girls) you are fucked. They (the club owners/bar ownners) assume that no-one likes 'indie' music. Certainly Belle and Sebastian wouldn't get a look in, even in the more 'indie friendly' cities of London, Manchester, Glasgow, Leeds e.t.c The ONLY clubs where I enjoy myself and wanna dance all night are 'indie' clubs, and only a few play B&S. For me, when they play B&S at (gay indie clubs)Popstarz or Room 2 in Heaven, it is like all my birthdays have come at once. On the rest of the gay scene I feel like an outsider. I'm not even very good at bitching. Anyway, that's my views! Sorry for boring you/lack of B&S content!! Bye!! //ROB xx -----Original Message----- From: McQuain, Chris To: 'sinister(a)majordomo.net' Sent: 5/22/99 8:24 PM Subject: Sinister: Response to rebelstrange's message from a gayboy I saw the 'glad to be gay' message from rebelstrange on 5/21 and thought I'd drop a brief (?) line. I'm one of the gayboys who is in love with B&S (I find Stuart M. particularly crush-worthy, but they're all so beautiful and I listen to the Gentle Waves every single day), and I have a theory: This whole 'gay community' thing, aside from the political belief that we must have legal recourse to guarantee that we are not fired or denied housing or harassed or threatened, is for the fucking birds. I have gay friends, I have straight friends, but I don't care in the least about gay/straight and neither do they. Maybe it's different for the girls, but for the boys (I'm 23, so maybe I can only speak about the 20-something boys), there seems to be nothing but cheapness, tawdriness, anti-love, anti-feelings, false machismo, etc, in our 'scene'. Going to gaybars is sickeningly similar to going to a college fraternity house where everybody is interested only in preening, asserting their superiority, and drinking/fucking. It's like a bunch of typically heterofratboys allowed to go out of control, all the aggression and 'masculinity' entirely out of balance. Some ferocity and aggression have their place, in girls and in boys, but surely not without some value placed on love, affection, consideration and kindness? It's a sad day when the most visible and vocal parts of your local gay (male? again, I can only speak for my experience) community are intent on erasing their vulnerability, anything 'feminine', from themselves, and I believe that's the day we're living in, at least here in Portland (Oregon, USA). Belle & Sebastian, whether or not any of them are gay or straight (and I'm sure they're smart and sensitive enough to know that it hardly matters), have an undeniably genderless/sexless outlook, a sweetly androgynous worldview that asserts the bright light of its innocuousness out into the harsh, competitive, mean-spirited world. Belle & Sebastian and all the side groups emanate something so childlike and comforting, it's really a joy to listen to it and know that the 'little people' and the 'little things' aren't insignificant to everybody. I'm sure none of us are overly concerned with our genders or sexual orientations, accepting of all of them. The things that bind us are so much deeper and more beautiful than gender/sex, which are only issues because of the cruel and stupid people of the world, anyway. If it's a surprise to anybody that there are a lot of queer boys who are into Belle & Sebastian, I'd say it's nothing but the most pleasant kind of surprise, I'm sure there are throngs of us who aren't obsessed with the macho posturing or the bitchy competitiveness, who in fact need an antidote. I've decided that the next guy I date MUST be into Belle & Sebastian, I really believe it says a lot (not everything, of course, but maybe enough?) about a person. And now, softly to sleep.... -Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: Christs Sake!
by Elish Hope 24 May '99

24 May '99

Pardon the french - but MY GOODNESS!!! If in fact the said 'rumor' of John Bloody Irving being on the Sinister list is true I find it hilarious that anyone would have dreams about Stuart Murdoch. Not that I would wish to mock anyone about their dreams of Stu - but COME ONE people!!! We could very well be in the cyber-presence of TRUE LITERARY TALENT!!! Holy Cow! Or as Shaggy would put it Zoinks! Now that gives me something to dream about! Mr. Irving, if you are really there, it is an honor to scribe my meaningless opinions before your very eye's. I have enjoyed many of your books and well..... I am humbled. And if you're not there, I guess everyone can go back to dreaming about good 'Ol Stu-pots. Ofcourse, Stu's writing has a lot more in common with JD Salinger... any rumors of him being on the list?:) Snoggs, elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sarah cracknell's gay nose
by ian 24 May '99

24 May '99

i hope all your mondays were beautiful. i was a bit bored so i kidnapped sarah cracknell from saint etienne and have imprisoned her in my cellar. i don't know why really, it just seemed like a good idea at the time. i have tried to feed her marshmallows and whisky under the door but she's not eating them. its a little inconsiderate of her. she's not much of a house-guest really. i thought she might shake her maracas and maybe sing a few verses of "avenue" but all she's doing is screaming "let me out you bastard" anyway, i have a plan. i am going to write to bob stanley and tell him that i want to be in the band. i reckon i can pout just as well as she can. look out for the next single. and perhaps the band at bowlie (that free ticket would be nice) enough of that, i will keep you informed as to developments. lesley said: ~i didn't knwo there were so many gay boys on sinister. (alright rainbow ~power y'all!!) where are the big lesbo dykes?? i know there are at least ~two of us. maybe we can start the lambda sinister union association of gay ~belle and sebastian fans. hahahahaa i also know an alarming number of gay steps fans. one day, i would like to walk into a gay club and hear "the boy with the arab strap" being played. unlikely, huh? and i'm definitely going to be avoiding gay bars in oregon: ~ but for the boys (I'm 23, so maybe ~I can only speak about the 20-something boys), there seems to be nothing but ~cheapness, tawdriness, anti-love, anti-feelings, false machismo, etc, in our ~'scene'. chris...i'd say you'd just met a bad bunch of people. can everyone there really be like that? the gay "scene" is a bad way to judge gay people. any grouping based around nightclubs is going to be quite shallow. but i LOVED your comments about b&s and why they might appeal to a gay audience. pity we're spoon-fed such crap (like steps) by various marketing agencies and the gay scene seems willing to swallow it. if you'll pardon the metaphor. good luck with finding a gay boy who's into belle and sebastian. we shall make it our mission to improve the musical taste of every gay man we meet? agreed? oh...i was going to write something about marbles up noses but i'm far too tired. perhaps a little story to go to bed with.... the first time i took my nose piercing out i accidentally inhaled. the back of the stud went up the nostril and didn't appear for about 2 hours afterwards. i spent all that time holding the top of my nose, breathing out and thinking what a crap way to die having a nose piercing flying through the front of your brain would be. and on that pleasant image i'm off to rest my weary little head. and shut that whining bitch up in my cellar. i don't know why she keeps banging like that, but i have decided to play her some soothing pan pipe music until she falls asleep. talk about over-reacting. its really very nice down there. ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dirty Dirty Fingernails
by molly 24 May '99

24 May '99

I have this compelling urge to post something. Which is really unfortunate because I have little to say and took much space to do it in. I only now got the ambition to say it and the subject was ages ago, but I wanna recommend "Another Roadside Attraction" by the illustrious Tom Robbins to each and every one of you. With no one to credit my good opinion I don't know what to say about it to make you run to your library and check it out. It has a baboon! Really! If for no other reason (because I certainly haven't given you anything concrete) everyone should read it because of MonCul, the baboon. He knows the secret of what rhymes whith "orange". But he won't tell you. I'm going to write a story for the Sinister Midnight Lending Library. It's going to be a social commentary on life inside a mailing list. The rise. The fall. The devolution of it all. Or maybe not. I've never stuck anything up my nose or ears, but my mouth is a different story. I have no gag reflexes, thanx to some monstrous and frequent cases of tonsilitis that numbed the inside of my throat for good. I can use my toothbrush to scrub my tonsils if I so wish. And I do! (wish to have sparkly clean tonsils) I used to stick pencils and other long things down my throat in the third grade, when we were supposed to be reading. I needed practice because I was hoping I could make a career out of it. Nothing's come up yet. My friend stuck a toilet plunger on her face once and passed out after she couldn't pull it off. And my dad cut off his ear last year on Valentine's Day and almost had to get a new one. They sewed it back on and it stuck out and looked funny for a long time. It was all bloody and crusty too. I tried the archive but it was sick. In CHICKFACTOR they're in New York, righty? the line "my little girl I can't find/she's five hours behind" Shouldn't it be five hours AHEAD? (that was my "content" I've been saving it up) Mmmmm MSG. I have a big fat bag of fortune cookies which I have been subsiding on for the past three days. If my fate lies in a fortune cookie (and the cookie confirms this, though I have my doubts) then it is in a pile before me. What I have learned so far: My fates predict that my best success will come through a life of trade, the next favor I ask for will be granted, a friend asks only for my time, not my monkey, many receive advice, only the wise profit from it, I am the center of every groups attention, the eyes believe themselve/the ear believe other people, I will find release from my cares and have a good time, and I will overcome many harships. the coup de grace: "There are always more fish in the sea, not as cute, nor as rich, but fish nevertheless" (????? Who let Ann Landers into the fortune factory?) I can't figure it out. Some people's posts make me wanna look at every syllable and others I can only skim. I just wrote all this and I can't even bring myself to read more than the first and last word of each paragraph. maybe the secret is writing like this. I doubt it. TaTa, Molly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: milestones, bunny carnage, and nick drake
by Archel 24 May '99

24 May '99

i return, a sadder and a wiser (and a more prone to qutoing Coleridge) girl. degree is over. life is, allegedly, beginning. i find this mildly distressing, but i don't suppose i'll get much sympathy from those of you who have worked for a living for years. i discount pop stars of course. the people who are disturbed by rabbits would have been delighted by Two Fat Ladies tonight - they minced up some bunny legs and then flattened some bunny fillets and made a big sandwich thing out of the resulting mess. i'm not squeamish but: yuck. i'm quite excited at the moment by the prospect of the only potentially decent bit of entertainment for decades coming to York. (terrorvision are playing at my graduation ball but i think they're silly.) on sunday the lovely venue Fibbers is hosting a Nick Drake tribute night, which could be hideous and could be great (i think there has been one somewhere else recently - same people?). i'm going anyway, and if anyone thinks they'd like to come too then that would be splendid. come on northeners (and intrepid southeners, for that matter), i know you're out there. mail me for details/tickets. i got my long-awaited b&s badges in the post a few days ago. now trying to work out how to adorn myself and my accessories with them without looking like a try-hard teenager. fully expecting a stroke at the age of 24, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth do something pretty while you can don't be afraid rap101(a)york.ac.uk skating a pirouette on ice is cool http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Gambling
by Halliday, Ian 24 May '99

24 May '99

I can't be sure, but when Honey said "Gamble in the fields and be happy" he probably meant "Gambol in the fields and be happy" although I'm not entirely sure. Regards, Ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: John Irving
by Marianne Bratlie 24 May '99

24 May '99

..hi Has anyone read " a widow for one year", by John Irving? I am half way through it now, it`s excellent. if anyone has read it, don`t you just love it when he describes the main-characters parents, how they talk without interest for what the other is saying, ..you know what I mean if you have read it. I believe John Irving is a member of this list, or likes Belle and Sebastian. One time he describes the "Eddie" character (main character) as feeling sinister, yes -it is true, and... "I want a lawn like an athletic field," Ted said with a vengeance. "you want LINES PAINTED on it?" Eduardo asked. ......I mean, don`t tell me he hasn`t been listening to "lazy line painter Jane." John, I know you are there. Anyway, the point is, it is a great book, you should read it. Cheers! Marianne thebeautyofherelectridlightisthisdesireenoughindidethegarden ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: If you're feeling chipper.....
by robhalcrow＠lineone.net 24 May '99

24 May '99

Hellooooooo baby (in a Big Bopper voice please), I went away for a couple of days and when I came back, blimey.....eh? Natasha is dead right, I think, (if you are feeling chipper and you do pinch a vicar I hope you do it in a kind allbeit playful and mischeivous way cos vicars have feelings too. I like vicars). I think we should be fervent in our fandom of all sorts of music, whatever we're into at that particular time. I bought the new Arab Strap album on Saturday and it's gorgeous. "Here We Go" really does me in. But then again, there is stuff you/I/we listen to to get oursleves up and going and make us laugh or smile. Talking of smiling I like this list, and I wish it and all its contributors a long happy future. I often find the little comments make me laugh out loud. (Who was going on about chasing a fat toad, or big alsatians crapping on the lawn?) (Don't look at me like that, you know what I mean). And of course there are serious, thought-provoking and moving messages posted which I would miss should the list cease to exist. (Have you ever heard that Beach Boys track, "Cease to Exist" with lyrics by Charles Manson? Spooky. Dennis Wilson sings it and he should have sung more I reckon. Dennis or Mike Love? No contest.) Books.......I read a collection of Herman Hesse short stories and I thought it was the most pretentious load of boring old cobblers I'd ever read. I got it out of the library cos Tom Wolfe said Ken Kesey and his Merry Pranksters used to read him all the time. Maybe if you're tripping off your bonce it becomes fascinating but I just wanted to hit him. (How un-twee). What's all this list crush fandango? Everytime I go to that site my computer says it has performed "an illegal operation" (what, like stealing someone's kidneys?) and kicks me out. How does one get involved? How can I get someone to vote for me? Please. Anyone. It wouldn't hurt. (That's a good chat up line for shy people like myself. Just whine like a small child. "Oh go on. Purlease. Why not? 'Snot fair ...etc" Owen, glad you love the Mackems. Steer clear of "Niall Quinn's Disco Pants" though as it's one of the worst singles ever. Keep posting interesting things everyone. I want to meet some people before the list kicks its proverbial bucket. Love Rob "WE ARE SPIES!! WE WILL KILL YOUU!! SHOO DOO DOO WOOOOO!!!" - Kenickie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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