May 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: 10 Roddington Place
by PJMiller 18 May '99

18 May '99

WHAT'S IT LIKE? What is it about Bangor University? Do any of our Bangor listees know Northy? Could someone put a notice up saying "THE SINISTER LIST MISSES RICHARD NORTH TERRIBLY" please? Someone from Bangor wrote: "I've even had (oh, the shock) casual sex several times in the past and enjoyed it." That's nothing mate. We all played up-the-bum ring-o'-ring-o'-roses at the last London picnic. It was later revealed that the winner had used a statue's phallus! And it was still attached to the statue! How we laughed. Casual sex? Personally I prefer formal sex - "allow me to introduce my penis". Boom boom. Actually, I prefer Wanky Biscuit. CRITICAL EYE Sister Disco's record of the week: "Pretty Little Thing" by The Interpreters. Notable for the just off the beat "Whoo!"s. I included that the ingratiate myself with the nursery dwelling music journalists. ANY EXCUSE FOR A SINISTER SING-SONG Alan McGee wrote: "Once I too enjoyed a good tune, but now the power of the dark side courses through my veins. I shall not rest until all decent tunes have been laid waste, and the world knows only the pain and anguish of endlessly recycled seventies rock." I like endlessly recycled seventies rock, Alan. And so do Belle and Sebastian, as shown by this poor quality pastiche, sung to the tune of the theme to "Only Fools and Horses", an old Sinister tradition: All together now.... We've got Yes riffs, Queen licks, Abba hits and Jimmy Webb bits, T-Rex, X-Ray Spex, Nick Drake quips and FunkySeb's tits, >From a mush in Shepherd's Bush, Push, push, push, push etc. No Guana Batz, no McCar-thee, No Family Cat, no Pastels twee, Thin Lizzy outtasight! Moustaches and afros for all, We hold satanic coffee mornings in the Church Hall! God bless Bookie Street! Viva Bookie Street! and so on and so forth. All right, it needs a bit of work. But getting started is always the most difficult part, isn't it girls? Boom boom. ODDS AND SODS I saw a record by Steps the other day, but there were loads of people on the cover so I don't know who was who. It was tarted up to look like an Abba record. Nice to see Keith's FAQs again. My favourite new bit is "She's in the Gentle Waves". Goodbye, Sister Disco of the Immaculate Conception PS: How do I join the increasingly popular Chris Leonard list? I've been tipped off by a far eastern gambling cartel. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Out of the sweetness comes forth strength
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 18 May '99

18 May '99

Has the world turned upside down dince I last looked out of the window? I'm fascinated to learn that looking 'fey and vulnerable' is now the definition of cool. And what's more, you can apparently get laid if you perfect the pose. Never worked for me - perhaps my collection of Sea Urchins 7"s is not up to scratch. Perhaps I skip over some posts without really reading them, but like teri, I can honestly say I've never really noticed a surfit of cutesy wootsie posts on Sinister. I don't know who these 'hardcore' fans are that Ciarán mentions, but if they're the Sinister 'old hands' that I'm thinking of, then I don't find them fluffy at all. Least of all FluffySarah - she's a gun totin' bitch from hell. I mean Preston. And anyway - you've got to remember that some people actually ARE shy and 'socially inept' - it's not a pose at all. What's wrong with them having a safe place to post where people don't get all confrontational and scare them off? God knows there are enough mailing lists and newsgroups where the atmosphere is like that - isn't it at least good to have somewhere that restores the balance a bit? Although I've never run one myself, I'd have thought it's a bloody difficult job running a list without it quickly descending into thoughtlessness and bullshit insult-trading. Obviously there's a balance to be struck, but I don't hink you could call Paul an overly dictatorial listowner. I might be wrong, Matthew, but I'd be really surprised if he has ticked anyone off just for 'arguing or debating'. I think, as the list rules say, that he just stops people if they start sounding aggressive (which really can upset people - I'm a pretty resilient sort but when I posted something soon after I'd joined that provoked a 'I hate this sort of shit' reply from someone I was genuinely quite shaken up). Or if they (often innocently) start an off-topic public thread that has all the hallmarks of spiralling out of control and clogging up the list (eg. 'What's everyone's favourite book/record?' ). Maybe half of the problem is that people just *imagine* their preferences or lifestyles don't fit into some mythical 'B&S ideal'. There was a guy (Linus TT, I think he called himself) who was in the chatroom last night who said to me 'Of course you don't like Pete Townshend'. I thought he was confusing me with someone else at first, but then it turned out he was just assuming that the Who were too ROCK for a B&S fan's carefully cultivated pop sensibilities. Ironically, arch WHO fan Keith was in the room (and it transpired that Keith liked their records well past the point Linus considered them to have gone too arena rock). Then they talked about Queen and Led Zep and Linus was thrilled at having his preconceptions popped. Or rocked. I thought Iain's post was pretty amusing too - although when I realised that he believed in the stereotypes he painted enough to leave the list in bitterness, it didn't seem so funny I reckon Isobel should be kicked out of Belle and Sebastian for being 'too Belle and Sebastian' - what does anyone else think? Nick "Ooh I just love Gregory's Girl and The Little Prince" Dastoor xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Snow In Summer. (Snowinsumr).
by LeEspiegle＠aol.com 18 May '99

18 May '99

dear "subtle smiles" diary... ("There was a day being lonely was hard...and then your attention was never enough.") gray this morning as i lift about the house in my blue nightgown. better this way, i believe. as i do so get headaches from sunny days...that is why this summer, as the last one also was spent, will be spent indoors...the pale irish-rooted were not meant for play in the flesh-burning sun. i bought an organ on sunday for ten dollars...my kitten likes to sleep on it...so i haven't played it yet...but maybe someday...and then i will become a cult hero...playing churches all across the world...singing songs about the kitten that sleeps all day on the ivory keys...botching my plans for any earlier recognition amongst music lovers... some of you may notice this is my new mailing address. shy hugs. meganelise p.s.: it meant a lot to me that everyone was so supportive of me having my "shy boy"...all the letters i received were greatly appreciated...and i have so little time on the computer that i know i didn't respond to every one...and for that i am tragically sorry...as they did mean so very much to me...and i wanted to thank everyone for their kind words...unfortunately, the situation has been discontinued...as there is "too much history, too much biography between us"... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re:sinister:Let's 'ave it!
by Matthew Broszkowski 18 May '99

18 May '99

""""""""""">The only problem I have with this list is that (in my experience) the >opportunity to indulge in a good debate rarely arises because everyone >is >so self-consciously Grandmotheresque (splendid neologism, don't you >think?) >and convinced that everything they post should be caked in saccharine. >It's all well and good to be kind and gentle, and I'm SO glad that there's not much Manics fan style internal bitching, but when there's this atmosphere of forced courtesy it all starts to resemble a Nazi 'Strength Through Joy' programme or something from '1984'. You WILL be happy and exist in harmony! Not that I'm accusing Honey of being Hitler or Big Brother (weeeelll, maybe the latter :P) but ... I'm sure you know what I mean. I'd just like to see more people breaking the mould instead of posting more updates of The Terribly Twee Things I Did Today.""""""""" I completly agree. honey, this is what I was trying to say before (remember me? kittridge) , I wasn't trying to be mean or anything. I'm just not a very good writer and could not put it as eloquently as Ciaran could. I don't think arguing or debating is bad it just adds a bit more flavour to the list. You gotta admit you do "correct" people many times for starting threads that you don't like. I know a few members (myself included) of the list who are still on, or that have been on that received private emails from you informing them of your disapproval to what they were saying. There's over a thousand people on the list now and I'm sure that everyone of them wants to be able to express themselves in whichever way they want. I know i sound like I'm complaining but I really do like this list most of the time, that's why i haven't unsubscribed, I just don't like having to feel like I have to walk over eggshells for someone. What does everyone on the list think? -matthew http://members.home.net/kittridge/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: something weird for the week
by ana simic 18 May '99

18 May '99

And she will wake up from the big sleep and yell CHEERIO to y'all! I admit, I've been lazy and busy and away and I wasn't at the Bowlie and I eased my daily dose of B&S since the summer started making its presence obvious....and I was rather inactive on the list. So there you go! You might consider me an unfaithfull fan or call me names, but I don't care. It's nice to know the list is here, and I always enjoy these l'll 'comebacks'. THey make me *smile*. To smt. more interesting: The thing that triggered me from my big sleep is the discussion started in my last sinister-digest, about the list containing too few discussions and being a place where (quite a few) people try to kill their boredom writing the 'adventures of their everyday life'. No, don't get me wrong, I DO ENJOY reading that kind of posting once in a while, but I can't get rid of the impression, that there is less and less connection between the things people write in the list. I guess, there are definitely people out there, who hate these kinds of talk in the list, and want everything to be nice&merry, but I found some truth in what (oh, god I can't open that mail again, and I forgot your name ..stm like Susan or so...*sorry*) said. This is no "this-list-sucks" comment - not at all, as this is and will be the best list I've been to.This is just a l'll "I-enjoy-it-and-just-want-it-to-be-even-better" comment. Shit, gotta run, my lecture starts in 20 min. I'm sorry, for throwing things like this in the air, and not having much time to explain them more thoroughly. Anyways, take care y'all and keep on keeping on. *Ana* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: When a kiss you, when I kiss you, I hear Charlie Parker playing.
by jarkko frantila 18 May '99

18 May '99

First, Janettx said: >ps. i am sexually naive. the only chat up line i've mastered is "so, do >you want to pull?" >well it's worked so far :-) Hmm. The chat up line I use is "Urrmmm.... Errrmmmm... Eeeehhhh...." followed by me walking to the bar and buying myself another beer to gain strenght to talk to her. Not much luck with that one after the first two hours. My friend said that this is good: "Ermmmm (innocent look on your face).... I was just thinking, would you consider living the rest of your life with me?" Haven't tried that one, since I find it a bit too pushy. Not pushy, "final". On to some other stuff now. Wait, no. No, yes. Got myself a hold of Sebadoh's lates a few weeks back. Now, I only had heard "Love is stronger" when I bought it, and I thought it would have more of these nice little ballads. Like hell it didn't. SCCHHHHRRAAANNNGGGG!!! say the guitars in every song, followed by YAAARRRGGGHHHHHH!!! by the big Lou Barlow himself. But it's a fairly good album, though not as good as "Harmacy". Rock. And this morning, when i came to work I tried to listen my Tigermilk on my walkmans. Have to turn up the volume up so much that the final result is this hissing on the background. Thank God for compact discs. Some of my friends collect these 70's funk vinyls (Jimi Castor and such), and I must say, as much as I like the sound and the covers (huge afros, YEAH!!), they're pretty hard to handle. Me, I'm the product of the busy-as-a-bee-generation, I don't have the time to get up and turn the record upside down when side A ends. Or then I'm just plain lazy. What else? Oh, a friend of mine got back from Bowlie and confirmed it: It was amazing. Darn. Well, you probably knew that, since it seems that everyone who reguraly writes here was there. Sigh. Time for a cigarette now. @--->--- Jake "If it's not erotic, I'm not interested." -Cant remember who said that. ps: Nick Dastoor and Jessica mentioned brutal arse sex on their posts. i found it very offensive. But laughed my brain out. And now I'm even stupid than before. I'm going to get money from all this, let me tell you. See you in court. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Let's 'ave it!
by vlass＠interlog.com 18 May '99

18 May '99

> I'd just like to see >more people breaking the mould instead of posting more updates of The >Terribly Twee Things I Did Today. I'm a sucker for outsiders and misfits, >see. i would agree with you about this, only the thing is that i *don't* see so many "i am twee i heard the birdie outside my window" posts on sinister. or at least, i don't see more of those than i do see the "this band RULES and should be listened to" or the oh-so-prominent smut filled posts. while waiting to meet someone today, i found the select article about b&s (8.50 for a magazine? argh) and read it over again... didn't someone say that basically belle and sebastian (okay, the chat room, but this can be applied everywhere) were about smut? actually, now that i think about it, there are perhaps way too many posts filled with sexual innuendos. WE ARE NOT TWEE ENOUGH! come on, lovelies, we must all learn to become shy and coy and *cute*. maybe if we were the number of emails in my inbox would diminish cos everyone would be too scared to post. har har. a plug-y thing: remember toronto listees! the picnic is soon coming! next week! teriiii we design synthesizers: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by Jordi Trenzano i Vilar 18 May '99

18 May '99

IŽve been trying to post during these last three days... but there is some kind of organised forces forces con spiring against me.... oh, IŽm getting paranoid.... I wanted to post some days ago just to say that FluffyŽs exam made me realise that the Steps are the real extreme right. DonŽt you find that their aryan looks are quite suspicious ? there was the belief that some nazi refugees in Brazil were trying to develope a new leader. And Steps came to Malaga to shoot a video, so, the thing canŽt be so far..... (IŽm not saying that Malaga is a nazi place, of course it must be great....) IŽm also one of those guys who could give his kingdom for a tape of the Bowlie gig. Please..... To this people who thinks that we are fakes, well, if you want to join something like a mailing list about B&S, it canŽt be so difficult to find that the 1100 members are quite cl ose to you about the things you like.. .And if youŽve been here for at least the last the last 8 months, youŽll probably find out that weŽre not 1100 f------ clones !! weŽre not a bunch of depressing lads who are looking for a substitute for their psychoanalists....for me, this list helps to end my day with a little smile on my face....thatŽs all.... A last question that I know itŽs quite old: at the "Dirty dream" video, the girl who appears at the verse "In a town so small..." is she Carrie from Sl eater-Kinney ? Que tingueu un bon dia tots vosaltres ============================== ==================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Let's 'ave it!
by Suave & Elegant 18 May '99

18 May '99

You, outside. Erm ... now. Spill my Babycham will yer? Your mother cooks socks in Hull. OK, so I'm not feeling irate enough to lapse into physical violence (and the closest I get to that is through my self-administered arse slapping at provincial indie discos near you) but I really do have a point to make, and I'd appreciate it if people didn't just scarper or resort to blissful ignorance every time there's the slightest hint of confrontation amongst listees. Before anyone begins to yawn or assume this is another missive related to the Ihamilt controversy, all I can say is that it isn't. Not really anyway. At the risk of being chased out of town by flustered feather duster wielding indie kids, I'd just like to point out that in any close-knit community (or 'cult' if Select is to be believed) such as this, open debate between members is vital and often FUN. As long as things don't get too personal and there aren't insults being bandied about freely, there's no harm in people getting passionate about something and wanting to articulate their point of view. Friendships often arise out of these situations - if several people share a strong belief in something, then obviously they have the foundation for healthy relations with each other (and NO smutty comments please!). The only problem I have with this list is that (in my experience) the opportunity to indulge in a good debate rarely arises because everyone is so self-consciously Grandmotheresque (splendid neologism, don't you think?) and convinced that everything they post should be caked in saccharine. It's all well and good to be kind and gentle, and I'm SO glad that there's not much Manics fan style internal bitching, but when there's this atmosphere of forced courtesy it all starts to resemble a Nazi 'Strength Through Joy' programme or something from '1984'. You WILL be happy and exist in harmony! Not that I'm accusing Honey of being Hitler or Big Brother (weeeelll, maybe the latter :P) but ... I'm sure you know what I mean. I'd just like to see more people breaking the mould instead of posting more updates of The Terribly Twee Things I Did Today. I'm a sucker for outsiders and misfits, see. So if you're reading this, why not respond to it if you strongly agree or disagree? It's probably just the post-Bowlie comedown, but the list seems stale and that's a damn shame. Let's make sure it doesn't stay like that. PS I know that this was all a bit condescending but it's 4:15am and I can't sleep. Have SOME pity! -- ------------ Ciarán Lynch elu488(a)bangor.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: dragons and defenciveness
by janetzx 18 May '99

18 May '99

ummm..... well, I'm new too, and i have to agree with william, everyone here sounds lovely. i don't want to draw out a discussion that will make honey put on his horrid face, as i've already trampled all over the poor bear's archive system (a student not a tech-head - i finally worked out what a search is!) but in my innocent skippings round radiohead websites i came across several which said stuff like "if you like making yourself depressed / don't have a sense of humour / think you are a Creep then *you are not welcome here*" which sent me scurrying over here where i could slit my wrists and drench you in my turbid blood in peace. stressing about image is silly....tweeness is a way of being nice to people?...bitching and defenciveness is scary and nasty.... anyway, to pick up a far more interesting literary contribution: Stuart looks a bit screwed at the moment. Evil mutant serpent Alan McGee is bearing down with all the bitterness of the not-very-funky, acid dripping from his fangs, steel claws scraping sparks out of the floor, slime oozing from between its scales...you know the scene. The light of truth is soaring through the air towards him, but can it bite? Stuart Murdoch grits his teeth and tries not to shudder as the fire-breathing fiend dodges the spear with expert skill and swings its horrible muzzle back at Stuart with a triumphant snarl "ha-ha! now i will eat you, twee one!" "not so fast, o scum-filled one!" cries a voice from behind. One of the shrouded figures is slowly rising from the altar. "Chris!" says Stuart "what's this?" it is indeed Chris Geddes, shaking off his trance. He leaps in the air, executes a few speedy kung-foo kicks, and launches himself towards the dragon. Faster than the eye can see, his leg zings up at the monster's nose, and seven yards of flare wrap round its evil head. The beast howls, trapped in the wilderness that is the Geddes trouserleg. "Yeeeooowww!" Chris screams "this is worse than waxing!" luv janet ps. i am sexually naive. the only chat up line i've mastered is "so, do you want to pull?" well it's worked so far :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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