August 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: "There is a perception that lyrics don't really matter but writing song lyrics is a craft" MY ARSE!
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

I may start a Stephen Trousé cuttings file. I may not. There's already one for Robert McTaggart, you know. He's a dead Scottish MP, so don't be too hard on him for not posting so much these days. That Washington D.C. review: >> 8. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No! Sometimes ignorant people who hate the band say they are, but they're not. Looper can get a little close, and the Gentle Waves definitely are, but B&S are not. It doesn't help that most of the B&S button designs ("badges" if you're from the U.K.) and te early T-shirts make them look like a twee band, schoolbuses and kids riding bikes and stuff. I know Isobel did some of the designs. Twee is what happens when liberal arts students flunk out and go back home to live. They can't face the fact that they've got no future, so they pretend they are still children. Everything's all candy and ice cream and stuffed animals and kitty-cats. Yuk. But it is possible to write about things when you were young without sounding like that. That's why Stuart M.'s so great. >> Lesley Jo said "Jeez! Someone's bitter" but I liked the twee tirade. I also liked Sarah's Isobel tirade a while back. And Lesley Jo's opening and closing but no noise coming out response. It's good when girls get catty. Although I watched a film all about that sort of thing on late night cable TV a while ago and it wasn't as much fun as I had hoped. I did try shaking hands with the unemployed but they spat in my face. I think that used to happen to David Hunt, but Tory ministers must be used to that sort of thing. Yuck! Anyway, this wasn't what I meant to write at all. I meant to write about why I had appreciated the thing above. I know, it's not the done thing to admit that any music journalist has anything worthwhile to say ever, but I thought this was pretty good. I think he's a bit off the mark with his college flunkers theory though. I think it's more likely to involve academically competent kids who can't face settling down into sensible buttoned-down lives, but never liked the idea of being a hippy either. Of course, it's admirable to succeed in living a double life (accountancy by day / fluffy squirrels by night), but there is the danger of this placing an intolerable strain on some people, resulting in psychotic illness OR WORSE. I don't really mind if people want to be twee (although I do have an irrational objection to people using the word as if they don't realise that it was ever even a pejorotive term to be 'reclaimed' in the first place) - I just wholeheartedly agree with those who draw a distinction between Isobel's tendencies and those of the rest of the band. Mind you, Stuartemmmm did say once confront his critics by saying "You may lambast me for not being "rock" enough. But I've always preferred baby animals and cake to rock.'. And he did fall in a river whilst trying to save a moth from drowning a while ago. Interestingly, the word 'lambast' has only ever been used once on Sinister. As has 'castigate'. 'Slate' has been used seven times. I have just read over this post and there is no discernable narrative thread. But the characterisation is excellent. Nicholas xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: mmm pasties, and G to the R double O-V-E
by Kurtis, Elizabeth 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

> Hello all, > > Seeing as I will be around this place for some time now, I've finally > resubscribed. > > Claire twittered: > > darling I thought it was about a cheese and onion pastie, in fact I still > do. Lets not make this a 'blairwitch' type discussion folks... > > Someone told me it was referring to Gregg's bakeries...but they are not > very bourgeois are they? 99 p for 5 iced fingers hardly seems extravagant. > And I thought they spray-painted the song title outside the Art School, > didn't they? I'm convinced it must all be a ploy to sell more copies of > the Socialist Worker. Didn't Stuart David once have a job as a paperboy > for them? > > Blair Witch Project? I'm more excited about Marvin & Tamara, the new 13 > year old duo who are taking the UK by storm with their smashing little > song. I damn nearly cried when I saw them -- it was a miniature version of > Marvin and Tammi themselves. And if you don't know who *they* are...get > some soul in you. > > Continuing with my celebrity spottings, I was walking to the bus after > work the other day and a big van pulled up in front of the Midland hotel > (very posh). Who should come out but the two Elvis girls from the > Cartoons! And how did I know it was them? Because they actually wear their > hair like that in the daytime -- but not the white studded hotpants, thank > god! > > Elisabeth xx > > > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: non, je ne regrette rien! Mayflys too
by rebelstrange＠ldd.net 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

since lots of sinisters are into the magnetic fields, i take the liberty of saying that i got my MF DC BC photos back today and i'm EXTREMELY pleased witht he results, so if any of yall want to check out stephin, claudia and Krew in action, go to my hastily assembled directory: http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/magneticfields/ Expecially those special, special people out there, you know who you are, i feel you wont' be disappointed. BOO!! No indie rawk star is safe when i'm on the loose wiht my super spy camera!! there's some other pictures in there too. ihave some Versus/Mark Robinson photos but i haven't scanned them yet. oh and if anyone correctly finds the reason why i was embarrassed when i received my photos back, you'll get......er, a cookie or something. it's like playing where's waldo, cept..... smuttier. *eek* Taggggg underestimated the power of my monstrous ego when he taunted: >What are "dyke skeels" and why is Sarah jealous of Leslie-Jo's? Is it something that EVIL MEN wouldn't know about because they're SEXUALLY >TERRIFIED BY THE POWER OF TWEEDYKES? Thought as much. BOO to you too, you EVIL MAN phallus-brained knuckledragger!! Dyke skeelz iz what you ain't never gonna have, sucka. !! yes it appears that the men of this list are shaking in their boots right about now. not to mention mis-spelling my name. FEAR TWEEDYKES!!! Men are evil and stupid and bad, the only good man is a dead man, blah blah you know the SKORE, punks. for any sarcastically impaired individuals, i am JOKING. please note that every time i sound like a pretentious windbag, i'm mainly making fun of myself. . i swear to god. Just because someone is a self-described feminist or a lesbian, does not mean they hate men. AND for every reviled male jerk-off ("jerk-off", and not "man" being the operative term here) , there is the equally despised Pamela Anderson archetype, or the Phyllis Schlafly type. Even the Sarah michelle geller(sic), what the hell is her name? the Buffy chick. i don't like her either. i think i saw Mayflies today. the only reason i knew, was i saw a show on them on the discovery channel. Mayflies only live for one day. when they swarm, they can get so numerous they clog up machinery, and streets and things. they were dying all over the sidewalk. they're very small and white. I was wondering (here's where the b/s content comes in) if the reason for Mayfly has anything to do wiht the fact that a mayfly lives only a day, like is he lookign up at the mayfly as it flies over, and thinking just how lovely it is for the short time it is alive, and feeling rather in the moment? i dont' know. then there's all that stuff about jesus and what not. what is spunk, is it what i think it is? if so, how could that guy tell mary tyler moore that she has spunk, and he hates spunk? my grandmother had a cat named Spunky when we were little, was that rude? HEADINGS ARE FOR LOSERS WHO LOVE/HATE THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT, (Dont' read if you haven't yet seen Chasing Amy): Chasing Amy sucks. BOO!! >;) actualy i considered watchign it just to see what all these people i know were talkign about, but i'm afraid to because i think it would depress me. i'm not joking. certain movies disturb me. not scary ones, just particular ones. i refuse to watch a movie or read a book that will put me in a foul mood. i'm tired of being depressed. dharma and greg (the crappy sitcom) makes me want to bash my head against a wall, it sucks all the joy out of my soul. it's not pretty. i can't explain it. STRAIGHT OUTTA EASTER HOUSE, YALL SUCKAS KNOW WHAT TIME IT IZZZ, kick it BEANZ!! =Stuart rapping. LJ "I hate the word 'feminist'. it has a bad connotation of women who don't shave their legs and under their arms." --sarah michelle gellar or whateverthefuckhernameis in "Detour" magazine "Hags, crones, witches, bitches, whores, prisses".....the BUXOMS have it ALL http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html Why do you think little dogs yap so much? get stepped on a few times and you'll figure it out.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #263
by Apple-O 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

> From: "jarkko frantila" <chamomile1(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Sinister: Kiss and make up in a Spanish house > Which B&S song would you like Weird Al Yankovitch to "cover"? Just a > thought. "Expectations". As it is, it would make a hilarious video. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: like Dylan in the movies...
by Diana N. 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

As well as my deep hatred of cover albums, spurned by the insulting cover of 'care of cell 44' on the Zombies tribute album, I am finding myself growing more and more aggetated with movie soundtracts... Oh yes, it seems that every trailor for a film tries to sell the movie by saying 'featuring music from.....*insert crappy band here*' which tries to sell the movie more then the actual content of the movie...(am I making sense here...most likely not)...but it seems that the idea of the big wigs is that "cool" soundtract=mass teen watching What is really disturbing is the soundracts that say 'inspired by the movie *blah and blah*' like Trainspotting 2 and the likes...for goodness sakes, I just saw the soundtract for the Blair Witch Project....ermmmmm, ahhhhh...if I'm not mistaken....ummmmmm...that movie had NO MUSIC!!! *sigh*.. sorry, had to get that off my cheast... (that being said, I will buy the soundtract for Acid House b/c B&S are on it...yeah yeah....sue me...) miss_modular ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A hymn to the public transport system
by Robin Stout 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

Hello I've decided that stacking shelves in a supermarket every evening actually makes you go mad. You end up thinking the same things over and over again. So I decided last night, whilst I was looking for the Ragu stir-in sauce, that I'd try to think up an idea for a sitcom. This went quite well. My idea involves a man with curly hair and his lovely wife who move into a suburban house and decide to grow their own vegetables. The man, Tom, likes wearing corduroy and wellies and makes a car out of a lawnmower. His wife is very lovely and rather pert. Their next-door neighbours, Margo and Jerry, are always looking over the fence to see what all the noise is about. Usually it involves Tom chasing a pig, or making a car out of a lawnmower. Margo has a big nose and looks like Maggie Thatcher. Actually Jerry looks like a polititian too. Funny things are always happening because the one couple is very posh and the other is very smelly. I'm a big fan of public transport myself and this is one reason why I like Belle and Sebastian. Last night, as I looked for the Dolmio stir-in sauce, I tried to count the number of songs that refered to buses, trains and bikes. I counted about fourteen, but I have to admit I was slightly distracted by an old woman who kept talking to me about her son who was in the army. He's always been a bit of a tearaway. I've been making a website in my spare time but frankly it's a bit shit at the moment so I'll keep it under wraps for now. And the word on the street, being whispered by the roof tiles, is that our Jarve and his evil nemesis, Steve Mackey are doing another DJing session in Birmingham soon. So if anyone knows anything about this could you get in touch, cos I fancy going. Well that's it Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: if i'd known you were coming, i'd have baked a cake
by Christa Chaffinch 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

There is a review of the Tigermilk re-release today in the Onion, everyone's favorite news source. Go here, why don't ya: http://avclub.theonion.com/music.html and read aaaaalll about it. i like what they have to say, frankly... nothing earth-shattering but they do mention an "enthusiastic cult", and i think we all know who that is. while you're there, read the article called "That's not funny, my brother died that way". its a real hoot. you know what i'm scared of? people with toenail fungus. well, actually, i feel bad for them more than anything. having to hide their bare toes in the sand at the beach and whatnot. its just not what i would call *living*. oh, and i'm also scared of clowns. damned over-stimulated garish killer freaks. so put that in your pipe and smoke it, christa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Rules of R!O!C!K! (heh)
by Brian Pennington (Mick McMick) 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

Hello Sinisterines, It occurred to me that posts requesting people to stop posting about the Blair Witch Project have become the new posts about the Blair Witch Project. I'm sorry I ever even thought about mentioning the damn thing... On to other matters, Arantaxa (I do hope I've spelled that correctly) mentioned what would be a good selection of people for a B&S tribute album. First of all I am sick & tired of tribute albums for bands who haven't even been around very long, such as the Cardigans. Can you believe it? There was a Cardigans tribute! This was a year or two ago, as well. It's not as if there aren't already enough bands that history has neglected to serve up with this sort of thing. But...I wish now to launch into some sort of diatribe against nostalgic impressions of tribute albums. I feel that in a few ways tributes are like socialism: they both sound absolutely lovely on paper, but when implemented they have come to usually turn out all wrong, and yet we continue to advocate them in the hopes that they might actually work out as well as they sound. Er, well sort of, anyway =) Oh, and they both glorify the working-class and discourage greed. Seriously, though, most of the tribute albums I've heard dedicated to bands I'm a fan of are downright awful. Take that recent Clash tribute album, for example. The best one I've heard was the Joy Division tribute A Means to An End from sometime back. I found a rough half of the songs to be tolerable to good, which I think is unusual for a tribute album. As far as bands covering B&S, I'm sort of against the idea of covering relatively new bands. I've thought about this and....well I can't really explain why I am against it. It seems one of The Rules of Rock, like not wearing a band T-shirt to a show of the band you're seeing (which, as we've seen, can of course be broken) or not yelling out song requests when the band doesn't ask for them or doesn't appear to be willing to play anything from a request. Again, I wouldn't fiendishly flick the earlobes of the offending individual for any of these, but they're the sorts of faux pas that we have... But getting beyond that, I don't think anyone is capable of improving upon the songs B&S has written. Perhaps someone could turn one of their songs into a different genre successfully, which could be downright interesting. So...how about Sergio Mendes w/Brasil '66 and Joao Gilberto on vocals doing "Ease Your Feet into the Sea," the "Rollercoaster Ride," or "Seeing Other People"? Yeah, that'd be interesting... Mick McMick @ work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Hymn for Great Pop, my schooldays and being an arse
by Martin Robinson 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

Hello Dolly, I forget to put Sinister in the subject area when sending this earlier which gives me a fairly high arse factor, if this mail now turns up twice now I'll have an even higher arse factor. Ho hum. I probably need to go back to school now to learn about these modern E technologies, they didn't teach them when I was a lad. I did get alot of E's at school mind, but I think that was something different. Anyway as this arse said earlier... Apparantly, according to the lovely Glampam, I can't say that Hefner were any cop. So instead I'll say that they were the bee's knees, the wasp's elbows, the hornet's armpits and the budgerigar's toenails. They were so good I gave the Purple Trousered Thing Formerly Known as Jim a big hug afterwards and ranted about it for a fair old time. Obviously I am a very reserved Englishman and I am certainly not prone to physical contact especially to those of a similar sex, at least not outside the proper confines of public school, so this is not normal post-gig behaviour for me and probably the sign of a some well crafted and well played pop songs. Actually talking of school I was in the Sinister list of subcribers looking for someone's email address when I saw that someone from my old school, Heathland Secondary School, is subscribed. So a big hello to you. Is it still the same old dump I knew and left? Actually can we all start a new thread now then of what teachers are still there and stuff about my old school as I'm much more interested in that than scary Blairy films. Is my friend Mr Patel still there? What about Miss Murphy who called me a dickhead in class once (a very astute woman)? And Is Mr Querk still a pompous git? Oh wait you could be a teacher couldn't you and I'll get another detention and yet another talking to from that moustached maniac. Anyway, on to brighter things...The End Te ra, Martin ear confecion recordings http://www.send.demon.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: i can boogie, boogie woogie, all night long...
by Claire Timmins 05 Aug '99

05 Aug '99

poooooooowla said >did anybody else out there think "le pastie de la burgeoisie" was about a >fucking bread roll, or was that just me being dim? darling I thought it was about a cheese and onion pastie, in fact I still do. Lets not make this a 'blairwitch' type discussion folks... clur* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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