October 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: jeepster secrets
by Paul Arathoon 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

I always thought that jeepster were a bastion of indie goodness and greatness in this wicked world. But last night via an email a friend sent me I found out something horrible and nasty: A few years ago Melody Maker and the NME tried to kickstart a scene called romo which was basically a revival of the new romantic movement. A horrible nasty idea at the best of times quite frankly. Anyway, one of the bands in the middle of this circus were called Orlando and who were they signed to? jeepster. label of beloved indie err lovliness. When i found this out I searched for an old MM tape that had Orlando on it and their song was dreadful to put it mildly. The questions that must be answered are: Did Stuart M and the rest decide to sign with Jeepster because they admired Orlando and the new romantic foolishness? Does Isobel harbour desires to look like them out of kajagoogoo? Is the next album to be filled with nasty synth noises? Personally I have always seen the Haircut 100 influence on B&S. Real B&S content as opposed to spurious content: err, they played seeing other people when I went to the Star and Garter a week ago. p*a*u*l Paul _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it never rains where I live
by Shachar Link 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

Hello Sinisterians, This is my first post. I want to say that, living in Northern California (the "Silicon Valley", to be precise), i hardly identify with the weather you English and Scottish folks deal with. It's always 70 degrees (Fahrenheit -- that translates as basically perfect) and sunny here. The leaves don't really change colors. I doesn't start raining until November, at which point it continues raining on and off until April or so, and then it stops again for the next 6 months. But I'm almost jealous. I grew up in NY, where the seasons are apparent. I miss the leaves falling, and the reds and yellows of Autumn, and the drizzles and the flurries. Oh well, I'll just play frisbee. And one more thing -- any fellow B&S people in the San Francisco Bay Area, please let me know if you lads get together at that Club CoCo thing every other Wednesday, or whatever. It's be nice to meet some of you in person. I have no other B&S comrades down here. (Palo Alto.) Thanks y'all, Shahar +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Death of a ladies' man
by nicolson ian 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

It's uncommon for me to post twice in the space of a week, as it's unusual for me to have anything to write (as you'd all concur, no doubt), but I feel compelled to relate the sad and indeed shocking news that wur ain Mick Cooke has dropped out of the Scotland On Sunday '50 Most Eligible Bachelors' list, after scaling to the giddy heights of number 48 last year. No reason is given for this dramatic fall from grace. It could be that Mick's maybe winching and therefore no longer eligible. Perhaps the list makers don't consider Belle and Sebastian to be as hip as they were a year ago. They might think that he's turned into a bit of a floppy mong of late. They may even have heard an Amphetameanies record. Whatever the reason, I'm sure you'll all join me in wishing Mick all the best, in what is bound to be a very difficult and emotional time for him. Arf. Ian N. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: they're coming to take me away (ha-ha)
by Ewan Dunbar 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

I open my post with the typical "well, this is my first post in a while", which is cause that's what it is. certainly not too long, tho. somebody mentioned that the lead singer of modest mouse is named Isaac Brock. that's interesting, and reminds me of grade 5, when we learned all about the war of 1812. sir isaac brock has a large monument dedicated to him; i guess that's how most people tell them apart. anyway, i ran into some friends last night, and we wandered around for a while, until the po-lice found us doing nothing in a back alley. which is interesting, cause we really were doing nothing. but andrew thought he would be safer if he pointed out his cap gun straight off. the officer took down his name. i guess we gave the guy something to do for a little while, cause there's really no crime in stratford. drugs and prostitution, but they don't really waste too much time dealing with that, i guess. so the rest of it is mainly bar fights. and harassing teenagers. natch. we played 5-card draw til about 1:30, then played texas hold 'em for about another hour. good thing we decided to play for nothing more than chips, because i'm a terrible poker player. of course, i probably would have done better if we'd been playing for money. i hope so, anyway. nate's cousin jade called a couple of times. she talked mostly to andrew. i think she was impressed by his crazy yarns, but they did prompt her to call him a liar at one point. i had a temptation to grab the phone and explain to her that andrew was not a liar, but, in fact, a starfighter pilot. but i didn't. anyway, b&s content... well, i had a dream a week or so ago in which struan was playing at our school. it wasn't quite like the school, there were fire escapes which led to another part of town. but that's what it was supposed to be. most people weren't really that interested, but i was thrilled by it. he decided to take a break for a little bit, and by this time a lot of people were starting to get quite excited about him and i think a couple of girls may have even been screaming. i dunno if he was coming back or just trying to make an easier escape the way the beatles used to. but i think i woke up then, anyway. i am not a radioheadhead at all, and i haven't heard ok computer at all, though most of my friends whose taste in music i trust swear by it, at least a little. but i picked up kid a the other day, and it's a good album. it may be a little pretentious, i'm not sure, cause the lyrics just aren't as accessible as struan's; e.g. "women and children first" vs "lisa knows a girl who's been abused". i dunno. i think song-stories a la struan and lou reed are more to my taste for lyrics. if done well, that is. they create more emotional detachment from the subject and simply paint a picture. it's better than the whole "i'm so sad" schtick. in fact, they are what got me interested in music at all, knowing that there was something better than the usual "I love you/let's make babies/and so on". that's not what kid a is, either, it's better than that. it isn't that same as something struan would write, but it's neet anyway. i like it. anyway, this is thanksgiving weekend here in the great white north, and i'm about to go continue helping out with food. it's a nice day outside, the leaves are changing colours and so on. the sky is blue and filled with nice puffy clouds. maybe i'll get out and wander around for a while later. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the city of gold
by Amy Jackson 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

hi folks, i'm dressed like a wee twee kid today. denim dress, wooly jumper, fluffy hat and a sheepskin bag type thing. i have spent to much money but i suppose that's what student loans are for. glasgow is still the bestest city on earth, even though i got caught in a massive shower of rain that soaked me to the skin. i had a dream about mr murdoch again last night, the t-i-g-h-t white t shirt made a massive impact on me. *ahem* have been galavanting around the streets for ages today, but i was scared cos last night i got followed home by a scary man. all the way up sauchiehall street he followed me, and even waited outside burger king (where i hid in the toilets until i thought he'd gone away) and followed me home. that's the only thing about the city i don't like, scary men. grrr... going to see jj72 and the delgados this week. the garage is next door to me, nice and sleazy's across the road, so the gig venues are endless, almost. should be such a laugh, i like jj72, especially fergal..mmmmmm, fergal..... *dribble* have been singing le pastie all day today. got funny looks at breakfats but it's ok cos i think there kight be another b&s fan in my halls. on the 20th it's my 17th birthday. i'm going to aberdeen with some friends to see idlewild and party. only i kinda hate aberdeen. too cold and wet. bluddy east coast. though the mighty aberdeen football club are da' best of course. anyways, i better go meet some friends and have some fun, adios for now, hugs, amy xxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: no danger
by zoe charaktinou 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

hello all... me hasn't posted for sometime and i missed it but now i have internet at home in england so me is happy.sundays can sometimes be very destructive.it's been a week now that i have turned 21 and i feel old already.especially being the oldest one in this house.... i went to see Elliott Smith for my birthday which was just perfect.Thoroughly enjoyed that concert,I did...brilliant...I think GHD was there too but as i wasn't sure cos it was dark i didn't talk to the person whom i thought might be G...uum...maybe i should've now that i think about it...damn... on wednesday i was asked for an ID to prove that i was over 18 when i went to order...coffee????i bet the waitress was younger than me...it really got to me even though my friends found it great cos it means that i look younger than i am which it's supposedly good esp for women.... the other day i joined the indie & alt music society in uni in a desperate move to organise sthg of worthwhile music in this uni cos i'm turning mad again..i don't know if that was a good move cos i don't really like societies;i don't like that clique feeling you get from them,and i have to point out that i do feel this sometimes when it comes to our beloved list.but maybe i'm wrong... anyway,i don't intend to bore you anymore today.i#ll be doing that anyway in the future. just want to say hello again.i am back in England and in the list.Greece is just so fulfilling at times that you honestly don't have time to write on the list... hope to rekindle the spirit with the list... love you all loads nodanger zoe _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: a poke at the NME establishment...nothing else...
by Nik Ovenden 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

In re-response to annabelle's email: i wasn't really suggesting she was an NME "worm", i am fully aware that they offer a free-email service. I was just pointing light-hearted humour at the address, perhaps inferring she workerd for them! it was a poke at the NME establishment, as many of you know i don't like their journalistic fashions (as do most on this list, i seem to recall). Please dont take it personally, annabelle. no harm intended. On the same subject... David Geraghty emailed me to call me a racist for the above comment. tosser. need i explain what a racist is? or am i mistaken...is there, somewhere in the world, a country full of NME newpapers, living peaceful, contented lives, worried about the militant and offensive nature of those weird human things towards their kind? probably not, it's just david's vocabulary is pretty limited. furthermore, david, "worm" is a term for an undercover agent. I know it is also a name for a certain type of virus, but you must please read the email in the context it is written, not just formulate an incorrect hypothesis, a half-assed insult and throw it back. Thats pretty stupid, isnt it? Peace and olive branches to annabelle. it's nice to see new people, i meant no harm. Love Niko xxx "I could only play 2 guitar chords and at a speed that makes Galaxie 500 sound like Napalm Death" yep, another classic quote for the archives...hopefully in 5,000 years, people will use this list as an exam text for history. Hmmm...propaganda for B&S. nice. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ah've been cleanin' windows, Jen's been cleanin' widows...
by Greg Pallis 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

Is it just me, or does a pyjamaless pyjamarama sound like what all the tweesters would dub the Official Sinister Orgy? God, that's a strange thought... everyone hanging around on the outside, waiting for everyone else... *ahem* Yes, it's me, I'm back, ladeda, I only posted three times so the list didn't exactly implode in my lurkership, but still... I got a list-crush vote, nay a list-crush match, no less. Except something went horribly wrong, 'cos we somehow failed to message each other. What else? I was at Scalarama, hunting for upside down 3..6..9...'s, but I didn't see any, plus I was too embarassed to look too closely at people's *ahem* badges, y'know... I saw a girl who by look alone I was sure was on the list - red hair, like chin length, black-and-white horizontally striped T-shirt, one mainly white badge which may have been the 'niner, who were you? I know you're here. Re: 'Rama... Cuban Boys make good records and are terrible live, Baxendale make good records and are absolutely superb live, the world would be a better place if more bands started their sets by running onstage in matching red tops, black trousers and stylish red shades, jumped up in the air and then launched straight into a proper p!o!p! single. And projected a big logo saying "POP will save us all" on the vidscreen. And wrote lyrics like "Take your Bittersweet symphonies, I'll break your legs if you stop me dancing...". And wrote contributions to the brochure/programme thing so good they went straight on my wall. We saw them hanging around afterwards but were scared to talk them, sigh. She's really thin, her out of Baxendale. Like, massively thin. Whistler and Jacques were shite, though. Respect to the guy in the "Dance you twee indie fuck£rs" T-shirt and to "The King of Karaoke" - he ruled. I like Papercuts. Its logo now decorates the plastic bit on the edge of my computer screen, underneath the Weekly World News headline: "End Times ARE HERE". J-pop is too expensive, which makes me sad. Pauline L. Shivers, you rock my world. I'd like to hereby apply to marry you. It wouldn't be all socially iffy neither, 'cos I'm heir to a proper countdom, in Italy and all. Comics discuss - Hmmm. Slave Labor Graphics are "comics for people who don't like comics". They make Lenore and Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and much else that's fantastic and not a little twisted, hunt them out at once popkids. Not a lot to say here, really. Sorry. Well, I flee now. C*ntstubble. Greg. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Bonanzarama
by David Moore 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

Hi All, Not much traffic at weekends I think so I'll risk another post. Scalarama-lama-ding-dong Bit like an indoor Sinister picnic really, with great company, music, glamour, day-time drinking, polaroids & football. No food sadly & for chat read shout. The Cuban Boys, Baxendale & Whistler left me cold: my musical highlight being David Gedge playing records (in between having his photo taken), arriving to play the theme from Goldfinger & leaving to the wails of Felt's Primitive Painters. In between he engineered the feat of getting a space substantially filled with Sinisterines dancing to Hole. And not only dancing but singing the words all the way through & gesticulating too. I think I even saw an air guitar. I think a list of names usually goes here like credits at an awards ceremony but today I consider that boring. Bit like my performance in the table footie. V-Twin The Sinister hard-core stalking team left Scala-etc. early due to starvation & to see V-Twin (or possibly more accurately their guest players). Blowup at the Wag Club was weird: seemingly ran by West End gangsters for backless 00's teenage girls to dance to nonstop 60's music. Soul records I never heard of, The Who's Can't Explain, cover versions (?) of Like A Rolling Stone & I'm Waiting For The Man by soul singers trying to sound like Mick Jagger. The band played for a pretty entertaining & energetic ?30 minutes/seven songs. V-Twin's singer is an astonishing fashion statement from the soaked toes of his shoes to his enormous brown fur hat. He also was either accompanied by a couple of fleas or afflicted with severe heartburn from nerves or something as he had to keep scratching/rubbing himself. The vocal performance was less easy to judge due to his microphone incomprehensibly not being switched on. Thank You Baby is still my favourite & Delinquency *Rocks*. All the band seemed to have a great time on stage, including their guests Chris, Richard & Stevie. Richard thrashed hell out of an assortment of percussion instruments, Chris is brilliant & smiled a lot & Stevie played harmonica & guitar, for one number employing the interesting technique of resting the end of his guitar on the amp & modifying the feedback by toggling the L/R switch. Isobel was in the audience. In a beautiful black dress. Shame Sincere apologies to Mr Geddes for chasing him across the club & tugging his sleeve: really boorish of me. My only defence is that Lucy made me do it (& you like her) Sally & I left at 1 a.m. for the delights of the night bus to Greenwich so Lucy will have to supply the rest of the goss. Tonight Sally & I off to see The Delgados at the RFH. Fascinating apprehension about seeing The Incredible String Band for the first time. I know they're going to be shite. But could that spark still be there? Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Lovesick on a sunny afternoon
by John Maxwell 08 Oct '00

08 Oct '00

Has anyone ever thought of rain as romantic in any sense? I certainly hadn't, until last night. I was taking a walk by myself out in the beautiful landscape that is the middle-of-nowhere. The light was starting to dim, and I thought that I had better go home soon to get something to eat. But I stayed out. It started to drizzle. The sort of drizzle that is utterly silent, and it makes everything else muffled as well. I had a fleece on which kept me warm enough, so I sat down on a little rock that had been untouched by the rain because it was sheltered by the trees. So I sat underneath the trees, just watching the rain. When I was younger I often had this dream. Its not really that clear. There were some daisies, maybe three or four of them. They used to dance round in elegant wee circles. The background was just sheer white. They were so light and harmless, you would hardly notice if they would be on your hand. Then there was the big, intimidating mountain. It was a stark contrast to the daisies. It would hover slowly towards and above the daisies, blocking out the whiteness with its vast size. Its weight seemed infinite, and it clattered down on the daisies. That would be when I would wake up. Sorry, that didnt make any sense at all. My point is that even when the mountain crashed down, there was silence. The rain last night reminded me of that dream. I didnt want to move from the rock until I would see the equivalent to the mountain. But it never came. There were mountains around me, but none of them appeared to be threatening. It was almost like a dream itself, with there being no bad ending. John x _______________________________________________________________________ FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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