February 2000 - Sinister

Sinister: Tomorrow (11 Feb) - Brownies, NYC - the Clientele
by Mark Niciu 11 Feb '00

11 Feb '00

List abuse again but here goes nuttin', If you are planning to check out the Clientele at Brownies (169 Avenue A in the East Village, NYC) tomorrow night (or if you'd like to purchase tickets - only $10 - go to http://www.ticketweb.com and follow the links), stop by the Korova Milk Bar (200 Avenue A) at around 7-7:30 and chill with some cool cats. If you're wondering how you'll meet the select few who have decided to attend...erm, good question...I'll be wearing a grey Chemical Brothers T-shirt if that helps any? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the Clientele closes the show which will probably end well after midnight as there as five acts total. Therefore, if you already bought tickets for the Kids in the Hall, don't think that this precludes you from seeing a band that someone described to me as a "melancholic Belle and Sebastian", whatever that means. Lurker status re-engaged, Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: bus related post
by Curtis Heath 11 Feb '00

11 Feb '00

Today, I drove a hyperactive child named Jeremy home in the 'special-needs' short bus. Continuously, throughout the route, Jeremy clawed the back of the seat in front of him. The hyperactivity had the effect of making him impervious to the fact that his fingers had become bloody. The poor boy couldn't even listen when I shouted "Jeremy, stop your hurting yourself!" Eventually I must gotten through to him and the clawing stopped. Twenty minutes of silent riding later, we arrived at Jeremy's house. He didn't get up and sprint to the swinging bus doors as is the norm for any hyperactive child, so I walked back. He was still in his seat. In some sort of remorseful fashion, he had tied his hands together with the seat belt- tight as a pair of handcuffs. The circulation was restricted and each finger was as purple as a plumb. He looked up at me very ashamed and said "I had to tie up my spiders... You wanna help me let 'em out?" It's really made my day that people have been posting about Egon Scheille. I still have hope in the Sinister list. . MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You are a Belle and Sebastian Song
by Alexander Borgia 11 Feb '00

11 Feb '00

Now hang your head in shame. Recently I learned that Miss Honey has a brother who used to cheat at Monopoly when they were younger. Which is something normal for children, but is still quite thoughtless to a developing mind. Poor Miss Honey has been scarred for life because of this and cannot ever live on a street with all green houses, nor push a wheel barrow with an iron in it while wearing a top hat. So tragic. I decided to take it upon myself to rough up Miss Honey's brother and lock him in a dumpster for a few days as punishment. Unfortunately at the time of the confrontation Miss Honey's sibling presented the all powerful "Get Out of Jail Free" card which, naturally, had to be respected. (but not before he stepped in some really smelly fresh dog poo, and he was wearing shoes with a deep tread so he will have to dig it out with a pencil) This has left me in possession of a "Get Out of Jail Free" card and a bit of unreleased aggression. I am going to rough you lot up and throw you in the dumpster as punishment. I am submitting the "Get Out of Jail Free" card. Right now there are 1211 members on the Sinister Mailing list. This post is written every single one of those 1211 and you are to take this personally. Please don't skip ahead because questions will be asked at the end of it. For those who are mathematically challenged, I am including myself in the 1211. You are an asshole. Through your thoughtless behaviour you have caused someone to feel bad and you have insinuated to them that they don't matter. You have hurt their feelings deeply and you have compounded it by not even caring to notice. Before you disagree with me you must realize that I am talking about behaviour which is an action or an inaction that has a negative impact on someone else and you don't realize its impact. A really good example of thoughtless behaviour is drinking and driving. I really hope that nobody on the list is stupid and thoughtless enough to do that. When alcohol and cars are combined eventually someone will end up dying. The dead don't care, they are dead. The living do and that is why people get sad and cry at funerals. Worse than killing someone is maiming them for life. Since this list is a B&S list, this subject is entirely on topic. In case you haven't been paying attention, many of their songs are about people treating others poorly. An apology is like a Band-Aid. It acknowledges the wound and helps make it heal, but it does not make it heal, only time can do that. But apologies lose their value if they are not sincere or if they do not result in a change in behaviour. How really sorry can you be if you keep doing the same things over again. Rather than point out specific incidents, or pull examples from the list or discuss the things that we can do to change our own behaviour and make a difference. I'll leave you to figure it out for yourself. You can decide how much of a selfish asshole you want to be. Although there are many clichés saying "what goes around comes around" and similar expressions, that is indeed very true and I have seen it many times, such with the individual who decided to participate with a nutso woman in making my life difficult last year by doing some things like making false accusations to the police and my employer which wear easily proven to be false. He ended up contracting flesh eating disease on his chest last September, he was an asshole to lots of people. Start thinking about how you are making people feel. On Monday I asked 7 listees who had initiated corresponded with me if I could ask a favour. The favour was to borrow their Crush vote until this weekend at which time I would ask them to move it somewhere else. I indicated that I would be posting to the list tonight and I wanted to demonstrate a point regarding thoughtless behaviour. I also indicated that they could choose not to participate and I would not take offence. I received four replies saying yes, and three e-mails went unanswered. At the time of writing I have 3 votes. I will allow you to draw any conclusions you would like, but bear in mind that you are not to draw conclusions about the individual participants, look at it as a play. I would like to thank the individuals who participated and those who have voted for me to vote for someone else per below. Since I have given you the "Get Out of Jail Free" card you may use it. Monday is Valentine's Day. You may want to rant and rave about it being set up by the greeting card companies but the truth is that humans have been celebrating love in different ways since we first started sniffing up stream. You can celebrate Christmas, birthdays and all those special days but the one day that everyone freaks about is Valentine's Day. Save the denial shit, I know better. This is the day when you want to feel that you matter. This is also the day when you get to tell other people that they matter. There are about 75 votes cast on the Crush list. That is 0.06% have elected to to tell someone on the list that they matter. Basically, you get until Monday morning to tell someone that they matter. If you don't vote for someone on the list so that on Valentine's Day someone wakes up to see that they matter, then you are telling everyone on the list as well as yourself that you are a thoughtless asshole. Don't not vote to spite me and don't leave your vote to someone else. The only way you get out of this is if you don't get this until after Monday. If you don't get a vote on Monday morning, it doesn't mean that you don't matter because the change from 0.06% will tell you whether you matter or not, you only matter if you vote. And nobody is allowed to vote for me because I want you to tell other people they matter, nor should everyone vote for the same people over and over again. If you have already voted for someone then you have to move your vote to someone else. To those who will be losing a vote as a result of this then you will know that the person who voted for you is not a thoughtless asshole. You can return your votes on Tuesday. When you are done that, go send someone else a virtual Valentine wish from one of these sites: http://www.bluemountain.com/ http://www.kinkycards.com/ Now everybody get their shit together and act like the responsible adults you will have to pretend to be some day. Alexander Questions: Has anyone noticed that in the Northern Hemisphere that Venus is beautiful at 7 in the morning right now? Look toward southeast. Why are you still reading this and not voting for someone? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: valentines day and whatnot.
by kitten mouse 11 Feb '00

11 Feb '00

hi kids, can i call you kids? i had a really depressing day today. last night i heard a answering machine tape of someone i know who died a couple of weeks before christmas and it just made my whole day seem horrible. that and i skipped my morning drawing class again today. i hope i don't flunk, that's all. i get really sad sometimes during the winter. it's because of the weather...it happens to a lot of people in the northwest, i guess. i went to a show at lewis and clark last night. my friends band Dear Nora played, but i got there too late to actually see them. i saw Kissing Book, and Sarah Dougher though. i like Kissing Book. i might ask them if they want to come be on the radio. my favorite song is Every Day is Valentines Day, and that would be cool if they visited the show, because it will be on valentine's day. anyway. gotta go. yer pal, andrea kittenmouse ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: erica's picture gallery
by grreth＠mindless.com 10 Feb '00

10 Feb '00

like may of you i have been considering sending erica a picture of me in one of my finest outfits. however, a webpage has been brought to my attention which has made me seriously reconsider. i think there's a much more, errm, sinister motive behind her desire for the pictures and i think her other webpage, http://www.scarleteen.com/pink/ask_body.html gives an taste of what she has in mind. fuck knows what she'd do with a picture of me dressed as a lollipop man, though. gareth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Blimey, she's got a big pair.....
by Chris_t_opher 10 Feb '00

10 Feb '00

....erm Hello Mentees (?) Ms. Rachel Tuck-her-in would have written (if she had written (and she just happened to write)): >d'you know i've been on this list on and off for nearly a year (i >think) now, and in all that time i've been convinced peter miller and honey >were one and the same person! i have absolutely no idea why i thought that, >but obviously i did so apologies to you both, and it really is true that you >learn something new everyday. which is nice... When i first joined, i thought the exact same thing! I think it had something to do with their email addys or the like. Anywaaaaaay..... I've noticed that the Sun isn't in such a hurry to go away nowadays. That's a good thing....i think. Erm. I've got an MP3 of my old band if anyone wants to listen. The quality is pretty bad compared to the CD i copied it from - my 'puter is dodgy-like - but it shows our potential (or lack there-of). Chris_t_opher(a)yahoo.com anyway. The weather here is a bit erratic at the moment. This morning when i woke up, it was pouring down and then when i was walking to school, it was nice and sunny. It was really windy when i walked home and now it's hailing. It's a good job someone invented windows and walls and doors cos otherwise......i'd be dead, i guess. In a vein attempt to reduce embarassement amongst my peers, i will now commence in spamming (hey, even Jeepster do it!): POPEX IS GRATE. USE THIS LIKE COS IT'S ALL LUCKY-LIKE AND YOU WILL GET £5,000 IF YOU DO: http://www.popex.com/cgi-bin/popEx.cgi?Mentor=2377 Anyone want to take me to a gig? I haven't been to one for.....SIX MONTHS and that was only REM (w/ Teenage Fanclub :)). So, TAKE ME AWAY PLEASE! This was disjointed.... I am lost. Chris_t_opher - King of Lost Property +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: get me away from here, i am dying.
by Toby Chan 10 Feb '00

10 Feb '00

Hey! Mates! Lucy: I talk in the way i write. Kin Woo: God, u ve seen ATR? I ve heard Alec Empire... and ATR. it is funny. And I like Cat Power too. in Rolling Stone website u can see their vdo. Ah Fai/Modboy2: I am the boy at Chemical Suzy that nite. I still waiting for another Hong Kong sinister meeting. Richard L and Franny: I bought If You're Feeling Sinister? in Mongkok(Hollywood), just 95. Dirty Sad News #1 This is the 6th or 7th day of Chinese New Year I went to a open air food shop and the chef is still on his holiday till monday. So, we can only eat simple stuff like pork chop and egg with rice...etc. I wanna eat fired rice or fired noodle. Dirty Sad News #2 Just read the local magazine, APC's Hong Kong brench is closed. No one is told that it will be closed. I luv APC too much. I can order it online but the size is a problem. U dunno if a tee or a knitwear is 100% fit your body or not. their unwash denim is too fucking great. But it is "dry clean only"... Their stuff is too good i wish it was not closed. so i can buy stuff in Hong Kong. Agnes b can't beat APC even Boss of APC was working in Agnes b. B and S Content: I , finally buy If You're Feeling Sinster today. It is good and luvly. but some songs are like other B n S songs. Any comment bout the jeepster LP Record Bag? Hair cut: i ve a noel like hairdo today. it will be ian brown like.... Miss U All, See ya, Toby Chan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: The f**ing c**ts are treating us like p****s
by Schaffenberger, Kristen 10 Feb '00

10 Feb '00

Evans wrote: "Egon Ronay - wasn't he one of the Ghostbusters ? He was a c**t." And Mark replies: You're thinking of Egon Schiele. The speccy one. And Kristen replies: No, the Ghostbuster is Egon Spengler. Egon Schiele = avant 20th century German painter, friend of Klimt. XX, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: be warned, i'm on a bit of a downer
by rachel tucker 10 Feb '00

10 Feb '00

hello hello hello hello i've really scared myself today, i very nearly hopped on a train to glasgow an hour ago for no apparent reason. i got in the queue for tickets and everything...luckily just as there was only two people in front of me i managed to turn round, walk out of the station and sit on the steps. had a couple of cigarettes to try calm myself down, but i was still shaking as i got on the bus back home. i only went down there to renew my railcard and cos i needed to get out the house. i've done it once before. i was 13 at the time, and the year i was 13 has to be the worst of my (admittedly rather short) life. one day i just couldn't handle it anymore. i'd been skipping school regularly for months just to wander about and i wandered down to the station and got on a train to manchester. i honestly believed i was never coming back. the scary thing was it was so easy just to go. except for the fact that i went end of january and it was fucking freezing, so come about half ten that night i went back home again. since then i've always suppressed most impulse actions, so i thought i'd kind of grown out of it a bit. i hoped i had, cos it frightens me what i can do on impulse. that's why i've been a nervous wreck since i got home, and i just needed to write it down to clear my head. it's not like i'm even particularly unhappy at the moment, in fact i'm enjoying most things right now. i just don't understand why i keep wanting to pack it all in. i'm not even interested in travelling. all my mates are on about going to thailand and africa and australia for the year before they go to uni, but it doesn't even slightly appeal to me. i just fancy a change of co-op. i might even go for tesco's. anyway, i'm calmer now. sarah said about queer as folk 2: >Wow. It gets no better. Hopefully the lesbians won't be in it so much this >time. And we get more STUART'N'VINCE. yay! stuart&vince, stuart&vince!! it's not often that screen couples have just so much chemistry and are so, what's the word? easy to empathise with that all the time you're watching them you're just willing them on, and can't possibly miss anything, any little look or gesture (maybe this merely displays how utterly useless i am at relationships that i get so involved in those of fictional characters...). the only truly fantastic couples i can think of who were absolutely compulsory viewing are elizabeth and mr darcy (pride & prejudice) and anna&miles (this life). but stuart&vince are the ultimate. i hope they never actually get together though, the unrequited love has gone on too long for it to work (why? why am i seriously debating an imaginary relationship? i am sooo sad...) but i'd like to be proved wrong, for vince's sake. ooh, just want to say thank you to everyone who's been telling me about michael and john head and pale fountains. cos of what happened at the station i never made it to hmv today, but i will be going for a bit of a hunt at the weekend. something else is bothering me too, but i'm not sure how to say it without sounding a bit bitchy. oh what the hell. i've been listening to the bowlie tape, and although i'm assuming that there were other songs done, i'm worried by the fact that the only songs i hadn't heard were non-struan songs. and all the whisperings coming out of the b&s camp is that almost everyone's written stuff for the new album. has previously undiscovered writing talent suddenly made itself known or is struan going through a bit of a bad patch and the rest of the band are carrying him or what? i'm not dissing everyone else's songwriting abilities here cos i really do like all the songs that aren't stu m, but it was the mighty murdoch's songs i fell in love with y'know, so i'm a bit panicky. especially now that stuart david has left the band. i know the general feeling on the list seems to be one of 'it's for the best' and obviously there'll still be looper, and that's A Good Thing, but i can't help feeling it's a loss that could really make itself felt. maybe i worry too much. i hope so. on that rather depressing note i'm off. lovin' and leavin' you all my sweetpeas rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Music for Girls...
by velocity farewell 10 Feb '00

10 Feb '00

Hey there fellow proletarian liste-e-es... nastdravia tavaritzs... (spelled wrong but it means "cheers comrades" in russian)... it's funny... I'm always thinking to myself... I won't write to the list again unless I have something specific in my mind that I want to write... and it always turns the otherway round... that is, I never have anything specific in my head when I start writing... I just feel a sort of nostalgia so I sit down and write all those things... it's a sort of therapy, isn't it? Mentioning "nostalgia"... it's one of my fav films by Andrei Tarkovski... "nostalgia" and mostly "the sacrifice"... I love Tarkovski... I've been talking with a friend earlier this morning telling him about my friends from da list... there are two people from da list who have actually visited me and stayed with me for some days... and now... we are friends for life... So, this friend of mine (not a listee) said that this is paranoid! Having people I don't know visiting me and staying with me... he said it's not logical... and not realistic... I don't think so... As I've mentioned in a previous post of mine, sinister is a world in its own... I believe that... and actually that's the thing I love the most about sinister... and who wants reality anyway? Not me... the world is a really cruel place to live in... you people are more real than people I meet every day... than people I work with and talk with etc... maybe this is a "bubble-world", but isn't it true that everyone lives in a bubble? so then, why not sharing a bubble with the rest of you? I'm talking nonsense, aren't I? I'll stop then... I just wanted to say that to all of you as it's been bothering me all morning... and... list abuse... Zwitsa... je t'aime aussi... so so much... and a special hug and a kiss on the nose to a very very special Teddy Bear, my best friend in the whole wide world... not in a www.sense... and... a hug to a special bubble-boy... he knows who he is, I hope... and a big hug to you all... Oh... I've almost forgotten that... I'm DJing on Friday, that is tomorrow... and I'd love to hear your requests... so, if any of you want me to play a song, just "ask me... I won't say no"... I'd love to play the songs you've requested even though you won't be there to listen to me playing... it'd be fun... and, so I can make a play-list filled up with sinisteriennes' requests... and I'll make a flyer saying "sinister-list presents the P!O!P!-est Night ever" that will be da Koolest ... and when I'll have the songs' list, I'll post it here...and i can make a tape with all the songs and send it to the people who sent me their requests... Have to dash... I'm looking forward to hear your requests... please eeee personally... velocity_girl_is(a)yahoo.co.uk love+moccacandies (that's what I'm having right now!) V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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