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Sinister: legal man in the southern hemisphere
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 21 May '00

21 May '00

Post-script to excessively long mail sent this morning. ***LEGAL MAN*** I got "Legal Man" today - quite a surprise. I went into the local record store and saw it on the shelf ... a day before it even comes out in the UK. Which meant I had to buy it, even though I have a copy coming in the mail in about a weeks time. So .... err .... now I have two copies of the single. Anyway ... I guess I was pretty surprised at how it sounds ... my first thought was "Kula Shaker!" ... which isn't such a great comparison, but it's really growing on me. I really like the fact that it "rocks out" a bit. I think it's a great pop single, but not necessarily a great B&S song. Can't wait for the album ....... I guess my major complaint with the new single is the serious lack iof Stuart Murdoch. Whereas we've always got three or four Start songs per EP, this time we get three tracks, one of which is an instrumental and the other is a (great) Start David song. And "Legal Man" doesn't really feature Stuart M to any great extent anyway. It's almost like he's trying to retreat from his role as "frontman" of the band. Any why, for heaven's sake, was "The Lonliness of a Middle Distance Runner" released as a single to procede the album? If there is one B&S song which could do damage to the charts, its that one. Perfect pop ... Which brings me to all the missing B&S songs. I wonder, with Stuart David having left, whether the glorious "Paper Boat" will ever get an official airing, or whether it will be confined to the cannon of "great lost songs". I think its time Jeepster did a "Hatful Of Hollow" type compilation, featuring all the old songs which have never appeared ('Lord Anthony', 'Middle Distance Runner', 'Family Tree') plus some live covers, all of Stuart Murdoch's brilliant demos like 'London Has Let Me Down Again' etc., along with some of the radio sessions. Anyone want to start a petition?? ***COLDPLAY/SLIPKNOT*** Someone on the Jeepster notice board is looking for someone to accompany them to a Coldplay/Slipknot gig. Which kinda makes me think that Belle and Sebastian's appeal is spreading. To me liking those bands is almost like subscribing to both Satanism AND Christianity, or being at once matter and anti-matter. The musical philosophies seem so far apart as to be irreconsilable. (And ... please ... don't anyone start mailing me off the list telling me what great bands Slipknow and Coldplay are. Please ... I just wouldn't be able to take it.) Well ... that's all/ I'm going to go and listen to "Legal Man" for the seventh time ..... Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: legal man
by mattwardfhnn＠hotmail.com 21 May '00

21 May '00

Got my Legal Man single (CD) in the mail yesterday, listened to it quite a few times since then. Legal Man itself reminds me of, say, Taxman era Beatles. I enjoy hearing B&S rock a little more than usual, nice break from all the wonderfully sweet and fragile songs. Nice, witty, humorous lyrics. I doubt it has what it takes to be top-40 (too old sounding, not enough cussing or fake drum beats), but, hell, I enjoy it. Judy is a Dick Slap is fun, although the fact that it's an instrumental (which I remembered reading once I had heard the song) was slightly disappointing. I was hoping for some dick-slapping lyrics, maybe explaining why Judy has found herself in such a posistion. Anyway, reminds me of something, say, Fountains of Wayneish, because of the analog synths and the upbeatness. Winter Wooksie is nice, although it doesn't seem like the "typical b&s" that someone claimed it to be. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Reminds me of White Album era Beatles, like something John Lennon would have written. The melody, maybe the instrumentation too... Anyway, may I also mention that it's nice to hear a B&S song that has a little more of an emphasized base line? The drums are nice too, and I like the sitar (?) at the beginning of Legal Man. Glad to have it, thoroughly enjoying it, well worth the 5.50 + 2 shipping and handling from CDNow. Feel free to right in support of my wonderful opinions. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dance til you drop, then dance a little more, baby!
by Jason Andreas 21 May '00

21 May '00

Hi twee majority, I have no idea where the subject line came from, but *I* like it <grin> *PIC-INIC BASKETS* I assume that the London picnic went brilliantly as they always seem to *sob*. I'm sure *sniff* that I'll have loads of *whimper* first-hand accounts of all the fun I missed *breaks down into tears*. I want as many of you people as possible to come to the Edinburgh picnic, just to show me what I missed out on. I'm guessing that most of what I missed out on was alcohol-related, but I could be wrong... <grin> *ARTY FARTY* Went along to the Art School in Glasgow last night for the first tmie in *ages*. I got the Divine DJ to play Legal Man *twice* and I bopped along like a mad bugger <grin> That is one song that is positively *made* to be played as loudly as possible and have arms, legs, feet, hands and heads swung wildly to. Even asses, probably. I even got in a wee bit of "Hi, I'm Isobel and I swim in midair" dancing <grin> Isobel, if you're reading this, I love you really, and you're as cute as buttons and stuff, but the dancing needs just a *tiny* amount of life, eh? <grin> I was also delighted to recieve a promo CD copy of Legal Man (only one track, but it's better than nothing. It'll be stuck to my wall on monday when I get the proper release) *JUDY HAS A DOG-NAP* I honestly cannot build up a picture of Dick Slap in my head. I'm hoping it's not too Looper-ish. Don't get me wrong, I like Looper, but they're not B&S, you know? Why does every other country except the UK seem to be able to buy Legal Man in the shops? That's a wee bit unfair on the wee twee Brits, innit? Careful, Jeepsteroids, you may be pushing people towards *gasp* *scream* MP3s!!!!! <grin> I wonder when Jeepster will sue Napster..... *THE OTHER BANDS* Lawrence "Goth" Mikkelsen said: >Someone on the Jeepster notice board is looking for someone to accompany >them to a Coldplay/Slipknot gig. Which kinda makes me think that Belle and >Sebastian's appeal is spreading. To me liking those bands is almost like >subscribing to both Satanism AND Christianity, or being at once matter and >anti-matter. The musical philosophies seem so far apart as to be >irreconsilable. Sheesh. I thought I was pretty far off with my love of Rage Against The Machine and the Wu-Tang Clan, but I suppose Slipknot *just* beats that. <grin> *AND YOU WILL BLOW US BY THE SCENTED HEAD* I finally head a track by And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead (try typing that three times fast <grin>) and I like. Anyone out there know if they have an album (cos I can never find anything by them in the shops) and if it's worth buying? *SINISTER T-SHIRTS* This is a message to all of you who have mailed me off-list (I'm sorry I couldn't reply in person to you all) about the creation etc. of Sinister t-shirts. I'm afraid that the idea is a bit of a non-starter, for reasons I probably shouldn't go into on the list. Let us say that a powerful force in this universe would prefer it if they failed to exist. I don't know what the force's opinion is on people making their own, but I'm hoping this will be clarified. Sorry to everyone who's hopes I raised only to cruelly dash. *BIG UPS* A big shout out to Amy Jackson from somewhere unpronouncable up-north <grin> for being patient with me when I lost my voice in the middle of a phone conversation. *croak* Thanks Amy <grin> *A SPECIAL MESSAGE TO ALL THE NON-RADIOHEAD FANS IN #SINISTER WHO KEEP HARASSING ME* "You go to Hell! You go to Hell and you die!!!" <grin> I'm probably going to get a bit of a slap on the wrist for that one, but I felt it needed saying <grins> I'm not insane, just sanity-impaired. Watching pendulums is a great way to pass the last minute until the 15 required. Maybe Honey is the Legal Man in the song.... "I run the mailing list that you could reasonably require..." Bubye everybody, bubye..... --Jason Andreas If nice guys finish last, then I'll never finish at all... ICQ: 45821217 AIM: RadioJase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: please excuse the post titled "hey"
by Li ^..^ 21 May '00

21 May '00

i'm really sorry all. i actcidentially sent you all something that supposed to go to my boyfriend. just ignore it. :) -li ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hey
by Li ^..^ 21 May '00

21 May '00

hey, all the sudden you just got off line.. what happen? :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( yours forever, li ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Shouldn't have, but did...
by Catspaw1＠aol.com 20 May '00

20 May '00

A review of sorts...nothing specific...just a note...no spoilers... I went against my better judgment and downloaded a couple of tracks from FYHCYWLAP... also Legal Man, since there's no prayer of me catching it here for a while. Only listened to "There's Too Much Love" and "The Wrong Girl," and I, for one, am jazzed. Both are quite lovely, and show...GASP!...more growth from the band. Good signs for the future. B Clay can't wait 'til June... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: random thoughts ....
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 20 May '00

20 May '00

***THE BELLE & SEBASTIAN MOVIE*** Not last night, but the night before that, I dreamt about "The Belle & Sebastian" movie. It was a strange and startlingly realistic dream. I went to see a movie in an old theatre, and got to sit next to Isobel for the first half of the film. (She went out to buy popcorn and sat next to someone else when she came back in .... sigh) Anyway, it featured someone who looked a lot like Phil Daniels circa "Quadrophenia", who seemed to spend most of the film walking up and down hills, dressed in a big anorak (yes ... ANORAK!) with a fur trimmed hood. Isobel was in the film too, playing a character which (seemed) to be pretty much what I expected Isobel to be like. Stuart was also in the film, dressed in a white short sleeved shirt and a skinny black tie, and played some slightly dodgy crime boss or something. (Don't think "new wave" - think "book-keeper circa 1955") Actually .... the film was a little disappointing as it meandered a bit ... leaving me with the oh-so-clichd "thank God it was only a dream" reaction when I awoke. ***CARDIE*** Today I will buy myself an acrylic zip-up cardie. (No doubt people won't be able to work out why the hell I'm wearing it .... which will reinforce in the midset of the people I work with that I am some sort of sullen axe-murderer) ***NME/PRIMAL SCREAM/STUART MURDOCH*** Don't listen to the NME. A word from the wise. I remember reading the NME when I was 17 and thinking it was the be all and end all of what was cool. It was a good way to find out about new bands ... but after a few years I got so sick of their "build 'em up .... tear 'em down" philosophy I stopped reading it all together. Although of course i will buy the one with Stuart on the cover. I can think of lots of great bands who got so much hype at one point in their career (Gene, Geneva, Ultrasound ...) who can't get arrested. People may disagree with me, but I think Geneva's "Weather Underground" is one of the finest albums this year, nd apaort from a few grudgingly good reviews, there has been NOTHING about it in the UK rock press. Whereas two years ago they were media darlings. I can almost GUARANTEE that the new Belle & Sebastian album .... no matter how brilliant ... will get a fair few bad reviews, just because it is no doubt time for the scheduled backlash. And look at the about turn on Travis?? Remember how "The Man Who" got really bad reviews from most magazine, but ended up album of the year in lots of the same magazines polls. Anyway .... this was going to be about Primal Scream. Much as I do like 'XTRMNTR' (not a patch on "Sonic Flower Groove" though) I was a little annoyed that on an 11 track album there were only 6 new songs. Of couse, 'Swastica Eyes' is on the album twice, and both vrsions were also released on the single. 'MVB Akestra' had been released previously, as had 'Insect Royalty'. (And you don't see B&S putting "Slow Graffiti" on the new album, do you?) So, much as Bobby likes to talk the talk, I would debat whether "the kids" got a good deal of the new album. Whereas our beloved B&S are unlikely to offer ANY album tracks as single, and similarly would be unlikely to put pointless remixes on the b-sides of singles. ***THE SMITHS*** It's nice to see that a few people on the list are getting into The Smiths. I got REALLY into The Smiths when I was 17, in 1992, and quite frankly, they completely changed my life. I bought "If You're Feeling Sinister" I '97 based solely on the sleeve, which reminded me of a Smiths 7". And B&S were the first band since The Smiths to have such an all-consuming effect on me. Anyway ... another piece of advice ... don't get sucked into the myth that The Smiths were the *only* decent guitar band of the '80s. B&S fans should find something to enjoy in the music of The Pale Fountains, The Go-Betweens, Orange Juice, early Aztec Camera, Felt (of course) Josef K etc. (And if anyone is actually interested in hearing any of these bands I'm happy to rustle up a mix tape for you ... one priviso that all 1200 don't ask for one ... not that anyone is likely to care.) ***THE MODERN LOVERS*** I was out to dinner with my lovely, but non-pop loving fiance Vanessa last night, and I was telling her about The Modern Lovers. I was siting "Pablo Picasso" as a brilliant example of rhyming "asshole" with "Pablo Picasso". Of couse, as luck would have it, I said "asshole" a little too loudly just at the point where everyone else in the restaurant decided to be quiet for a second. And then this guy started giving me funny looks, and I thought I had offended him, and that he was going to get up and punch me for profaining in a public place. He came over to me and said "are you talking about Jonathan Richman?" and we talked about pop for the next half an hour. Great when that happens. ***JARROD SAN ANGEL*** Jarrod - I hope that the last few days fracas hasn't put you off the list, and I hope you don't think we're all bastards. Welcome ..... anyway, and hope things go smoothly from hereon in. (Oh, and you have impeccable taste in music by the way .....) ***THE FILMS OF HAL HARTLEY*** There is a fantastic film festival on in Auckland at the moment ... and I'm lovin' it. Last night I saw Hal Hartley's "The Book Of Life" for the second time, which was brilliant - It's a pre-millenium affair about Chrsit and Satan having it out in Soho bar. As a Christian myself (and please don't mock me for it .....) I found it a far more sympathetic portrayal of Jesus than anything you're likely to hear in Church on any given Sunday morning.Go and see it - all of you! ***LUKE HAINES*** Anyone taken by recent Black Box Recorder songs should, at great haste, check out The Auteurs - espacially "New Wave" and "Now I'm A Cowboy". The man is a genuis. ***THE END*** On hindsight this has gone on far too long, but it just means I won't have to post again for a fortnight now ...... Take care everyone, Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: to people who listen to belle and sebastian
by Isabelle Axelsson 20 May '00

20 May '00

Dear sinister brothers and sisters After reading many interesting messages from you I thought it was time for me to write my first post. When I heard that there was something special with sinister mailing list I first didn't believe it. But I was wrong, there really is something special with it, just like with Belle and Sebastian. Like magic. Maybe it's because Belle and Sebastian have a special place in our hearts. Maybe. My lucky day was two years ago when I first heard them, now I can't imagine a day without listening to them. I think it's wonderful with the picnic (in London), but I'm afraid I won't be there, I'm now living in Sweden (Stockholm) and I'm moving first about a year to London! It's a shame cause I would have loved to come. ..."Inside the letter was another letter, in another envelope, and that letter was from the ghetto"... -Stuart David 1999 That's all xxx /Isabelle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You spin me round (like a washing machine) baby
by nessa 20 May '00

20 May '00

My mother is doing something vicious to a fish pie downstairs. thats what you get from watching the naked chef too much. caroline: the dublin picnics soon. Its either the 4th or the 5th of May. It might be in Iveagh Gardens. It'll probably end up as a pubnic. Its just before my Leaving Cert. Which is good. I too saw the Virgin Suicides today. It was good in a skewed kinda way. It was a really good looking, as in pictures, kind of film. I'll be so disappointed when everyone tells me that the girls in it have bleach blonde hair as opposed to just looking scandanvian. *just being a wee bit ironic there...* the only thing was I kept being reminded of Dutch Elm Disease, throughout it, when I was supposed to be taking my mind off the fucking Leaving. I went to look for Legal Man before it, since records always seem to come out on the Fridays here. But obviously jeepster don't like that kind of carry on or something, because it wasn't. c'est ca nessa XXXX --- ********************** get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: attracting attention
by Li ^..^ 20 May '00

20 May '00

hello :) i saw in a post that someone mentioned how Belle and Sebastian were in High Fidelity. :) it was QUITE a fun experience for me..hehehe durring the beginning of my movie, they play the song Seymor Stine (don't kick me about the spelling, i know i know.), i JUMPED up in the theater and i emediatly loved Dick's character just because he litsens to B&S. i scared the crap out of my boyfriend. hehe.. also, it's so groovy to see B&S fans DO EXISTS in NJ. :) i've heard from a few people who live here, but not too many. if you happen to live in this horrible, sad state..hehe..mail me :) anyways, i've gota go. i'm in school..ZZZzzzzzz... zip zop zoom goes gloom, li ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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