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Sinister: sinister exam paper
by ian 20 May '00

20 May '00

(firstly, just an aside. if you don't know me, ignore this and scan down to the dotted line below. i've been pretty much offline for the last 3 months, and have fallen very far behind with my private correspondence. i'm catching up slowly though, so please nobody think i'm ignoring them) right, to the point of this post. the sinister exam paper. are you ready, my adorable amigos? here it is.. ----- sinister exam paper may 2000. part one. you must answer ONE of the following questions...: 1. make up a mildly amusing but utterly irrelevant story about sarah cracknell. 2.describe what you had for breakfast in minute detail, with an amusing story tagged on the end about how you got really drunk and copped off with a boy and now you can't remember what his name is, and you're not sure if you should speak to him anyway, and...if you did your hair like this, would it look a bit like sarah cracknell? 3. ">I'm not quite sure what ian's thesis is, but it reads very nicely. I do have to take issue with his assertion that anyone who tries to change the world for the>better ends up doing more harm than good, though..... >what about Martin Luther King or William Wilberforce or Nelson Mandela, or...someone else not involved in black emancipation?" discuss prof n. dastoor's comments from his seminal work "i can't stop thinking about stuart pissing on walls", with reference to belle and sebastian, happiness, charles manson and life in general. avoid extensive reference to sarah cracknell. 4. "twee". discuss. at length. Question 3 ("quelle suprise" i hear you cry...) question: discuss prof n. dastoor's comments from his seminal work "i can't stop thinking about stuart pissing on walls", with reference to belle and sebastian, happiness, charles manson and life in general. avoid extensive reference to sarah cracknell. answer: "the world is just a great big onion". (gaye and terrell, 1969) in their earliest successful thesis on the state of the world, marvin gaye and tammi terrell ponder the inherent sadness existing on the planet, and present a radical hypothesis. they suggest that much of the trouble the human race experiences can be ascribed to the essentially vegetable nature of the planet, and assert that: "the only way to get rid of this great big onion/ is to plant love's seeds until it dies" this appears to have been a commonly held perception during the early years of what has now become known as the "gobshite school" of perception. the gobshite school is of course, a thoroughly respected academic institution which persists to the current day, notable recent output being steps's wry and witty postmodernist update to the work of gibb, gibb, gibb, gibb and glibb, in which they assert that "when the feeling's gone and you can't go on, its a tragedy". the gobshite school, for all its persistence, has never felt particularly compelled to back up suggestions of this nature with hard evidence. however, the fact that gaye and terrell tapped a commonly held social perspective of their time is evident when one considers that this was the same decade that saw booker t's outrageously dry social commentary "green onions", and the beatles' suggestion that the world might be better perceived by "looking through a glass onion". the onion hypothesis still holds some validity to this day, whereas more recent attempts to compare the world to carrots, aubergines and pomegranates have met with indifference, if not outright derision. as gaye and terrell offer little but circumstancial evidence for the onion hypothesis, any serious consideration of it must be conducted in conjunction with a lengthy programme of research. literal attempts to "plant love's seeds" often prove unsuccessful. most horticultural establishments do not stock such a product, indeed, my requests that a certain blonde 18 year-old assistant at the notable "homebase" chain of diy and garden centres assisted me by supplying seeds of this nature resulted in a brief but unpleasant encounter with law-enforcement officers. the onion hypothesis, and the suggested solution must, therefore, be taken as metaphorical observations. my research into the ramifications of this brought me into contact with several opposing philosophical doctrines, and neccessitated an examination of the tunes of the modern "popular hit parade". love's seeds, it seems are little in evidence in today's modern musical world. despite constant reference to "love" in the popular music of today, it appears that any concerted effort to facilitate the introduction of this type of philanthropic farming is sadly absent. however, there appear to be a number of marginal cults which hold the worldwide dispersal of "les dandelion-clocks d'amour" (see ref. 1) as a priority. scott plagenhoef (see ref. 2) in his widely-misunderstood work "i think they've got another face/ its not a fault of mine these days" refers to a little known faction known as the "tweehuggers". he is not wholly supportive of this movement, indeed he expresses the opinion that: " For one, I'm hopeful that "twee"doesn't come out of the closet". however, his work does contain the first serious examination of this little-cherished movement. the tweehuggers are, it seems, a group of people who: "use frilly language, wear frilly things, and show a liking for all things cute, furry, shiny, sparkly, or old-fashioned such as the classic cardigan and slippers combo" (ref 3) although it is by no means the intent of all tweehuggers, it seems that many adopt such a stance with precisely the intention of using it to spread the seeds of love throughout the world. it seems that many of the members of this group see the adoption of a twee stance on life as a radical repudiation of mainstream society with its inherent aggression and unhappiness. there are several components to this repudiation. these can be summarised as: 1. appearance. (see above quote from david hoveringsoul) 2. demeanour. this maringal cult seem to believe that being "kind" and "respectful" are a sound basis on which to build their lives, a clear contradiction of current mainstream thinking (ref 4) and finally, and least importantly: 3. musical taste. it seems that, among the members of this group, there is a factional, even obsessive, following of the music of the obscure folk-rock groupette known as "belle and sebastian" the reasons for this cultural leaning amongst the tweehuggers are unclear. however, several suggestions have been put forward. these include the assertion that belle and sebastian produce music which balances the flippant irony preferred of the rock critics of this period with gentle, occasionally introspective observation. although their music often reflects the darker side of existence, occasionally even delving into "the twilight world of the nappy-wearing homosexual", there is frequently a central compassion for the subjects observed and a genuine sympathy for the daily plight of the mundane, uncaring universe faced by the personae within the songs. this daily plight is doubtless one that has been experienced by the writers themselves and is one that is frequently reflected on by the tweehuggers who populate that particularly rabid arm of the belle and sebastian following known as the "sinister" list. it would appear that many of the tweehuggers rely on the output of this musical aberration to occasionally restore their stock of the seeds of love. many, indeed, go further than this, and like to project their own desires out onto the group, believing that the mission of belle and sebastian is, like their own, to spread peace and love throughout the world - to kill gaye and terrell's onion with kindness. this is, however, merely a projection. belle and sebastian appear deliberately vague in their public position on the compassionate slaughter of vegetables and their front-person, a mr. murdoch has even been heard to use the word "cunt" in public. although this does not appear to resonate with a twee perspective on life, it must be remembered that many of those who follow the "yellow-brick road to twee city" (ref 5) are aware that the end destination cannot be a permanent one. these intelligent, thoughtful individuals are fully aware of the banality and violence of everday life and are simply trying to offset it by adopting a non-confrontational stance. this stance, paradoxically, becomes confrontational when viewed through the glass onion that is mainstream culture. many commentators see it not only as wilfully naive, but also as destructively stereotypical and demoniacally insane. it would seem, therefore, that the tweehuggers epitomise the fundamental dichotomy of modern existence. strong enough to be different, yet soft enough to care, these individuals have adopted a non-violent stance to the world which in itself becomes absurdly challenging. in conclusion, it seems that the seeds of love can be spread in many ways, and that a direct fight against the aggression of society - a "fire of angst against a fire of anger" (ref 6) - may not always be the most successful method. in promoting their own doctrine of non-violent resistance and adopting a hesitantly supportive spokesgroup in the individuals who go under the collective title of "belle and sebastian", the tweehuggers are one example of the quiet revolution that may or may not be happening in the heads of the nation. there is, therefore, much validity to prof. dastoor's statement that pursuing an action to improve the world is not neccessarily a waste of time. this may be done in more ways than is commonly accepted. the onion of the gobshite school may soon develop into a far less challenging nectarine. vive la revolution, and pass me my cardie. to conclude, i realise that i haven't actually answered the question but that was because i changed my mind halfway through this piece. in support of such behaviour i would like to quote the eternal wisdom of gorky's zygotic myncei - "i didn't finish my essay/ 'cos rock n roll is okay" (ref 7), and to point out that utter subordination to an arbitrarily chosen discussion topic is a mark of weakness of character and lack of imagination. i would also like to mention that i have incriminating negatives of each of the examiners and am willing to use them if necessary. thank you for listening ian References: 1. e. macarthur "why flora IS the new KY", new statesman 3rd feb 2000. 2. pigeon fancier's monthly, 6th may, 2000 3. d. hoveringsoul "i never REALLY wanted to be famous", hello magazine 7th may 2000 4. l.alder "an introduction to chainsaw-murder", knitting today 18th aug 1997 5. c.manson "why i'm really very, very nice", modern psychopath june 1999 6. a.ross "bollocks to all that", sociology for kittens october 1903 7. "spanish dance sooper troopers", whips and whipping, september 1999 ------------- grade: c marker's comments: you paid very little attention to the question posed, utterly failed to mention charles manson and martin luther king, and only gave a superficial answer to the topic under discussion. however, we are used to this from you and it is creditable that, on this occasion, you managed to avoid mentioning sarah cracknell. in addition, if that was you in the public conveniences behind wolverhampton bus station on friday night, you were damn good and i'll pay for the negatives. ----------------------------------------------- Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: spending warm summer days indoors
by Caroline Mary Browne 20 May '00

20 May '00

ah yes Ive been doing a lot of that recently since finishing my finals (HOORAY) well it should be shouldnt it? but no, the simple things really arent as great as you imagine them to be when your studying lots and lots. I actually handled the old having final exams thing very badly and decided upon insomnia, irritability, heartburn and irrationality as a means of getting through them. In the second exam I got that disapearance of all thoughts thing that I thought only happened to other people who only really made it up anyway. I had to leave the exam hall to cry lots only to be followed by an invigilator who tried to comfort me in very pigeon English (he was Italian see) by saying such things as `some of the most successful people in the world don't have degrees' and `you can always repeat'. This made me cry some more but also made me want to go back into the exam hall to get away from the least comforting man in the world which was very embarrasing because every one looks up to see the red eyed girl with a look of pity. I did manage to do the rest of the exam though so it was alright (in case you were wondering) I kind of wish I was out at picnics like most of you probably are. I left the house for the first time yesterday and kind of had a picnic. first I went to the cinema to see a film called the virgin suicides. We chose to go and see that because we thought it sounded funny but disturbing was actually how it turned out to be. It was good though, very good actually but I never really decide what it is that I like or dont like about a film and lots of other thoughts about it until several days after when Im walking down a road or on a bus or looking at a group of strangers or something. Anyway we then went on our picnic before which we went to pet dogs at an RSPCA stand thing. We gave money to a man who, at first appeared to have very nicely given up his Friday to collect for charity but gradually revealed himself for the horrible sleezy man he was making such comments as `while your down there' to my friend when she dropped some change and 'here you should have a rabbit badge, I bet you go like one ha ha ha ha'. `your not interested in preventing cruelty to animals at all' we said as we ran as fast as we could away from the horrible man. Later on we saw him shouting obsenities at frightened school girls. Our picnic was a bit odd really we decided to place ourselves strategically next to three crusty men with two litre flagans of cider who decided upon us as perfect suitors and insisted we come over for a friendly slug of their cider. Each one picked who best of my friends he was suited to and then one of them said to another ` I dont like your one much' which made us a laugh uncontrolably which made them thinking that we were flattered by their attention which then sent a whole ball rolling type scenario until it was time to go home. I saw the legal man video on no disco the other night there and I have to say I didnt really like it that much. It was just too all over the place or something. I also didnt like the way Sarah only gets a brief look in at the start. The only bit I really liked was when one of the two men attempts to wave at one of the transvestites and the other man stopped him at least I think thats what was happening but possibly I completely misinterpreted it. As for the song well I like it for what it is but wouldnt really call for much more of that sort of thing in a big hurry if that makes any sense (mental image of all 7 members of belle and sebastian taking a careful mental note of Caroline's insightful comments). Im going to New York to get as far away from Dublin as I possibly can in 2 weeks. Not that I dont like Dublin but I just need to leave it for a while but this scares me lots. My friend Bryan says that theres an accomodation crisis there at the moment and that Ill have to live in a rubbish bin like oscar out of sesame street. I think things that are likely to go against me in New York are a) being very shy and unassertive, b) having no sense of direction and being very indecisive c) having skin that burns in 5 minutes of exposure to the sun and well of course having no job or accomodation. anyway I would very much appreciate any help/ advice etc. from any kind New Yorkers. Isuppose I better go now as I have red hair dye in my hair which I must wash out which also seems to have permanently stained the palms of my hand red and underneath my nails too.Oh I got Hefner's breaking gods heart and its quite beautiful. Bye Bye Sinister Caroline xxxxyyyyyyzzzp. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: a message to craig chin (no B&S, sorry!)
by julesmarkham 20 May '00

20 May '00

hi, this is a message for Craig I've lost your e-mail address, so I've had to inflict the whole list. sorry guys! Craig, I sent you a will Oldham compilation tape, but it's been returned to me I think i got the address wrong can you send me your address and I'll try again (assuming you still want the tape) sorry! jules +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: facts facts facts
by Jan Imgrund 20 May '00

20 May '00

Hello I've been on a sinister-nomail-diet for a few weeks now, and just like brian, i just returned - for chaos. Can't you take care of yourselves for a while?? So in my first post after decades of silence, I've taken it upon me to translate an "interview" with Stevie Jackson from a german news-magazine called FOCUS (slogan: "facts facts facts - and think about the readers.") Just for safety reasons I might have to add that it's not a review and does not contain any kind of valid information whatsoever. It's for you to have a good laugh really. BETWEEN PUN AND PAIN Scotch pop-octet Belle and Sebastian have a problem: they are taken seriously. The glasgowers have called themselves after a french dog-cartoon, play with clerical traditions and do almost anything to remain a commercial failure - in vain. FOCUS: some of your songs sound like the luth-play of a manic depressive medieval singer [i know there is a word for this, but it was not in my dictionary]. Have you made a profession out of sadness? Stevie Jackson (guitarist of B&S): We take our work seriously, albeit not quite as seriously as our fans. One day we decided to become the most morose band of this planet. Focus: your first three CDs came out on a renowned label, your new one is being published by an independent label. Why? Jackson: We've only been one out of a lot of bands at Virgin Records. But we are absolutely unique. If you want to represent something special, you have to be strict in your decisions. Focus: Do you fight against success? Jackson: We are craving to become superstars. But if the people like our music, well, than just as well buy our CD. [good that they finally escaped the grip of big business now, after Virgin had hugely promoted their acclaimed debut album "Lionblood"...] Jan PS: Spiegel-Leser wissen mehr! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tindersticks page: http://members.tripod.com/~iodin/tinder.html 'they're only songs' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:42:54 +0200
by Jan Imgrund 20 May '00

20 May '00

------------------------------------------------------------------------ tindersticks page: http://members.tripod.com/~iodin/tinder.html 'they're only songs' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: my coffee headache is going away
by adam apparatus 20 May '00

20 May '00

i think that sounds like a song. well, maybe not. whew, the last three-and-a-half weeks have been busy for me! i went to ireland, where i met up with zero wonderful sinister people (and found out afterwards that there are ten million of you in dublin... sigh...). i listened to northern picture library and the cat's miaow the whole time, and read nalda said, which was GRATE, except the end made me sad. i sent it to my friend lizzie in bryn mawr who didn't get to see stuart, so she didn't get a copy. i think it was a nice gesture. i don't even want it back. then i was in the sound of music for two weeks. ugh. i'll ignore that. i played acoustic guitar (the song, not the instrument. well, the instrument too, actually) for my co-actors during the intermission, though, and got three separate requests for copies of the song... i love stephin so much! god, i wish i were gay. then my cousin died, and i had to go to arizona. that was sad. yuck. so awkward being around his family... glad to be home. i'm going to order the new looper and b+s right now... yea yea. there's tons of other things on my cds-to-order list, but we know who comes first... ah, that's probably it. i just thought you would want to know where i've been... or maybe you don't. anyway, i had to delete about 500 sinister messages (literally!) because i haven't had time to read them all... i'm sorry dears... love love love - adam aconover(a)optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: moikai (cont.)
by Johan Nilsson 20 May '00

20 May '00

it has come to my attention that Isobel doesn't sing on Waiting for the Moon to Rise... it's Sarah. so so so... Sarah is good... thanks Johan ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: moikai
by Johan Nilsson 20 May '00

20 May '00

ok Moikai is japanese for something like 'play it again'. it's actually a record label run by Jim O'Rourke who recently put out a lovely Cd with Aki Tsuyuko. well if you are into minimalistic music you should check out Moikai and their releases... but i am not refering to the label... no i am refering to the new Belle and Sebastian Lp. so a warning here, if you don't wanna know anything about the new album or even just little notes, go away, read a book or go out in the sunshine... i am gonna make some references here... have you heard of Postcard? a small little label that excisted in the beginning of the 80s in Glasgow. well they had a slogan which was like The Sound of Young Scotland, a rip off the slogan of Motowns, The Sound of Young America. Some bands that were around during the early Postcard era was Josef K and the more known Orange Juice. Edwyn Collins, the 1/2 brain and lead singer of Orange Juice wanted Orange Juice to sound like a Motown 60s band. well this he claims. first time i heard this i thought that he was a little out of his mind because Orange Juice sound nothing like a Motown band. then i heard our dear Belle and Sebastian cover Orange Juice "In A Nutshell" with Isobel on lead vocals and all the sudden it actually made a little sense. ever since i have had two obsessions in my mind, a) i really wanna start an Orange Juice cover band that makes Orange Juice sound like if they were on Motown and b) that Belle and Sebastian somehow have the same idea that Edwyn Collins has... to make Belle and Sebastian sound like a Motown 60s band. so somehow i had the feeling that Fold Your Hands Child would sound something different then usually. i start listen to the first track, I Fought A War. proven wrong right away. see have you noticed how all three previous albums start with Stuart singing with just an acustic guitar? He did it on The State I Am In, The Stars of Track and Field and It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career and oh yes, he does it on I Fought A War. so no, Belle and Sebastian hadn't changed... thank god. i made my friend Trevor a copy of Fold Your Hands cuz he begged me to. one thing that stroke me though, was when we were in his car listening to the tape for the first time and during I Fought A War he starts singing. i was shocked. how could he, he didn't know the lyrics, did he? no he didn't. fact is and i had almost figured out which at this point, but I Fought A War has striking similitaries with another british bands song. unfortuantly, ever since Trevor got me to know which song it was i cannot get it out of my head and now it is always there in my head. damn you Trevor. since i respect you kids so much i will not say what song it is. but fact is, I Fought A War is a beautiful song, amazing, lovely, or as a guy i met in a triftstore the other day looking at a super 8 camera said, fucking dailed. i know this is not very hip of me to ask, but have you ever seen the movie Rushmore? i know, it's defiantly not hip of me to say but i love that movie. Bill Murray is my idol, ever since Groundhog Day which is one of my absolute favorite movies. well my friend Aaron also loves this movie and he got the soundtrack. however, unfortunatly there is none of the funny comments in the movie like "i wrote a hit play, what did you ever do?" on the Cd, just the instrumental guitar playing melodies that appear every now and then during the entire movie. randomly enough, the second song The Model starts with a melody that directly reminds me of the ones from Rushmore. let me say this about the song though, Stuart Murdoch is something else. this song is really beautiful. one of the best on the album. i saw my first theatre play when i was a young boy. well i don't really remember how old i was really. and i don't remember what the play was called or really the story line but i still remember how much i loved it. i remember how my older sister took me to see the play cuz her friend was in it. i lived in a small town and this play was really big and i guess one of the biggest plays that has ever appeared in my town. all i can remember of the story line is that it was slavery and slaves coming to america. a really sad play. they even put out a tape with this play on it and my sister had a copy. i used to borrow it from her and lay in my bed and listen to it. there was a lot of singing and the third track Beyond the Sunrise contains a beautiful beautiful choir melody that reminds me deeply of that play. it's so lovely. three tracks in a hurry: fourth track Waiting for the Moon to Rise our dear Isobel appears at her best ever. her singing is just the best. wonderful, hurray for you Isobel. keep 'em coming. so it took about a year to record Fold Your Hands? well it is quite a production, Don't Leave the Light on Baby contains a really beautiful string session melody, something that could have taken from Tindersticks. The Wrong Girl, or as it was called earlier, The Wrong Love, has been heard a few times already, add a cowbell. doubtlessly the best song i have heard Stevie sing ever and the only song i already know all the lyrics to. two short tracks: The Chalet Lines, well i am not sure, well i am pretty sure, but the choirs line that Stuart sings is 'he raped me in the chalet lines'. it's a punch in the stomach. but then he raisens it up and says how she stuck a knife in the guys eye. appearently a friend of Stuart thinks he should tell the police what happened, but Stuart swears and says it's no point. yeah, Stuarts swears a few times on this album. Short but lovely. Nice Day for a Sulk is also short. A little bit like missing something, but damn beautiful anyways. two references about Isobels vocals: one might say that Isobels vocals is too fragile for Woman's Realm but it is still a marvelous song. lovely melody and everything else Belle and Sebastian stands for. like in Waiting for the Moon to Rise, Isobel appears at her best in Family Tree. Family Tree is beautiful, period. best song on the album? well if you asked me yesterday i would have said The Model, the day before Family Tree, but today i think it's There's Too Much Love. lovely ending song. i don't know what else to say, I don't really think I need to say anything, bravo bravo. in the car with a slurpee in in my hand this got me up really well last night driving to see Stereolab and Chicago Underground Dup in LA, which was by the way lovely. Simply, there is just too much love to go around. so i yeah i was wrong, Belle and Sebastian didn't turn out to try sounding like a Motowns 60s band. maybe in twenty years some young man not too different from me, will go, hey, i know what i wanna do, i wanna start a Belle and Sebastian cover band and try to make their songs sound like a Motowns 60s band. well we know that the boy would be insane. basically. he's name might just be johan. <lv.johan PS. oh did i forget to mention? the new Belle and Sebastian is beautiful! i can play it over and over again... moikai! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Nothing to Do with Reviewing the New Album
by Brian Pennington 19 May '00

19 May '00

Hello Sinisterines, For those of who don't remember, I was on the list up until about nine months ago. I unsubbed because I ran out of time to read posts, and now I have time, and being in #sinister compels one to subscribe, I think. So I did. Apparently I missed all the untroubled times in Sinister, and got back just in time for chaos. I hope this is the worst of it. Yesterday I drove to Columbus and bought Legal Man. I'd checked here in Athens the past couple of days, but the stores down here don't know anything. One of them told me it was delayed, to which I of course explained to him that people had already bought it, so that couldn't be the case. Oh well, he lost my business, that should be enough. Usually he's quite nice, he convinced me to buy a Nick Drake album a long time ago. So after I bought Legal Man I found out the show I was to be attending didn't start for hours, and I was supposed to meet friends there. I occupied myself for a couple of hours by shopping and walking around, then I went back to my car a bit before the show. There I discovered my car keys had escaped my keychain during my walk, into freedom. Though my keys had been liberated from servitude, I had no way of getting back into my car. So I met my friends at the show, and then after the first opener (4 bands, we wanted to see the headliner, the Aislers Set) I called the locksmith and we went over to my car to wait. Then it started raining. We took shelter under a nearby tree, which didn't do much good, so we got soaked. The rain let up a while, then started up again, so we picked a bigger tree further away. We missed the locksmith, and though we eventually did get the locksmith to come to the car, there was much more getting rained on and running hither and thither, which I won't go into for great length due to un-interestingness. But in the end, I left Columbus just after 2, without having seen the band I came for, with only Legal Man and a few other CDs to show for my harrowing experience. Well, it wasn't that harrowing, it was kind of fun. I just like to be dramatic. So I'm wondering if I should go into any details of what I've been doing, but I don't want to bore you all. Suffice it to say I've been in my first 'band' which was a lot more trouble than I thought, and ended up being a few songs, not even really recorded. And my friend and I have written some songs too, and those got properly recorded. It's nice to be on the other end of music for a while, even if I don't put out records and just record MP3s and such. I've also been doing a radio show rather frequently. I play Belle & Sebastian and some asundry other things, many of which a lot of you would like. You can listen on the internet, it's Tuesdays from 5-7 PM EST, for a couple more weeks anyway. If you're curious, have a look at http://www.frognet.net/~mick/radio.html I've almost graduated from Uni, so I guess my DJing days are numbered, but who knows. Well, I'll probably post again in the foreseeable future, so be prepared. Oh and personally, I've been hearing people don't like the album for a while now, and that there's a big backlash. Well, maybe they will, then we'll just be liking a semi-obscure band again, I guess. Big deal. I think they're wonderful and everyone should like them, but if they don't it's their loss. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky(a)mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: <http://www.indiepages.com/sandcastle/> "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #150
by ByTheSea6＠aol.com 19 May '00

19 May '00

In a message dated 00-05-19 07:37:12 EDT, you write: << To paraphrase John Sebastian of The Lovin' Spoonful -- artists haven't been that astute in making political statements in the past, so why should they start now? I don't listen to a lot of overtly political bands (Atari Teenage Riot being an exception), and I'm not a very political person >> John Sebastian may never have been very good at making political statements, rather he was good at making a boatload of money which is probably invested in various pharmaceuitcal companies or Boing at this point....I guess John was down on the beach working out harmonies and tans while others were opening eyes and ears to Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll or Masters of War. There's politics in most things beautiful; if The Chalet Lines isn't a sorrowful commentary on some of society's deeper plaguing issues, I don't know what is. n. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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