June 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: intros, dreams, and love advice from Pat Boone
by jkrze＠webtv.net 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Hello Everyone, I've noticed the list has been lacking posts lately so I've taken it upon myself to cram up everyone's mailboxes. I suppose I should start by introducing myself seeing this is my first post. My name is JoAnn and I am from Detroit, a city recognized globally for its cars and music, but in my humble little heart it will always rekindle memories of steaming sewers, dirty alleys, and broken glass (something I affectionately have grown to name "city glitter"). You can imagine my jealousy when reading other's posts from the list which speak of taking walks down to rivers, climbing hills, running in fields....maybe someday I'll be fortunate enough to have such surroundings. However, until then I'll take a nice deep breath of the smell of burning rubber and try to imagine I'm LLPainter Jane running and running and running to the edge of town getting pollen on the cuffs of my pants. So I had a B&S dream the other night. From what I've read it seems to happen to a lot of listees. Anyway, I was at a B&S concert, but they were playing songs I've never heard before. Next thing I know (you know how in dreams sometimes you're just transported somewhere without actually moving), I am sitting on a ledge right in front of the stage. Stuart comes up to me and says, "Hey, that's a cool shirt. How much did it cost?" I look down to discover I am wearing an Elvis t-shirt. Out of nowhere, my little sister appears next to me on the ledge which is fitting because she is in real life obsessed with Elvis. So I ask her, "how much did this shirt cost?" and she answered, "about twenty minutes". Well, Stuart gets a big kick out of her saying "minutes" rather than "dollars" and starts cracking up. Then he says to me, "JoAnn, do you mind if I break your back?". I woke up before I could answer. In my subject line I promised some love advice from the legendary pop crooner Pat Boone. No, it wasn't given to me personally, I read it in a book I picked up at a rummage sale written by the man himself in the 1950's. The book was originally intended as a guide on life and love for teenagers, but now it serves pretty well for laughs. I tempt no longer, here is an actual quote, "Kissing is not a game....Kissing for fun is like playing with a beautiful candle in a roomful of dynamite!" Pat suggests going bowling or watching a TV program as an alternative. So remember kids, when you are out this weekend enjoying the sun with your special someone ---- NO Kissing For Fun!!! Kiss for your local charity, kiss just for practice, but by god, don't let me hear of you kissing just for fun! Goodbye. Take care one and all, JoAnn "I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance" --- e.e. cummings +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: at last!!!!
by zoe charaktinou 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

hello sinister land!!! At last I've got my very own internet connection here in greekyland!!!! I AM SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!I'll be able to keep in touch with the list over the summer.How cool is that???? Now I'll go mad and do things the uni wouldn't allow me like chat with u guys and stufff like that.so happy. it's sooooooo hot here in athens and those damn mosquitos are killing me but i'm on sinister list listening to FISHYCLAP in Athens.... YIPPIE!!!!!!I'll go now.love you all ZO ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Morrissey, Murdoch, Merritt and Malkmus
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

No. 80 with a bullet eh? Whenever you lot get pissed off with the British and their superior attitude, bear in mind that many of us still get a thrill when big America comes to appreciate our own. I remember the thrill I got in about 1989 when I discovered that Spin had voted 'There Is A Light That Never Goes Out' the seventh best song ever. It's even better when they make it to People magazine. Of course it does neither side any credit when stars way past their sell-by date finally get huge in America (the Kinks, Morrissey again). It was really nice to get that piece from the 'other' Guardian. Made me realise that interviews with bands you like can evoke more than just a 'durr.. they've got that wrong' response. Stuart's brief comments about the albums were, as far as I can recall, the only ones he's ever made in public. I'd heard before that the band weren't happy with the way Sinister was recorded, and that he wasn't over the moon about the way the new album came out in the end, but it's nice to know they're not just hearsay. Like David Moore says, you can hear that 'Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying' isn't given the 'big' treatment it could receive, but like Youn, I kind of like it that way. It's unusual to hear an artist candidly admit that an old album contains the best songs they've ever written, though. I think Morrissey (him again) once said something along the lines of "I think Johnny and I both know that those [Smiths] records are the best we've ever done or will do" and it made me warm to him. Not sure if JM would concede the point, but still. Youn wrote some interesting things about 'The Chalet Lines' and when it's deemed acceptable to express opinions or even joke about rape. She's right that male rape is somehow OK to snigger about. So's murder. But not female rape. Is rape worse than murder? Probably not, but men feel uncomfortable being anything other than wholly earnest about it because of the lingering fear that we are are all potential rapists, or that somehow joking about it is a violation in itself. Or maybe it's just that we know that you can't offend the murdered. I once knew a woman who expressed what I'm sure is a widely adopted view in certain feminist schools of thought: that it is pernicious to build rape up as the worst possible thing that can happen to a woman. To her, the obsession with rape's scars was just another way for society to cast women in the role of victim and diminish their powers of resilience. That was what got me thinking about the comparison with murder, and I decided I basically agreed with her. Of course the downside of taking this view is that it make you look heartless: just because one woman can get over it doesn't mean another should be criticised for failing to do so. So. Maybe Stuart is being brave in not caving into the idea that a song about rape can't sit happily on a pop LP. But I still don't want to listen to it. Apart from anything else, lines like 'Full of woe and further to go' just seem crap to me. Isn't 'woe' one of those words that people only use in the modern world when they're trying to sound poetic or quoting nursery rhymes? Which I suppose he is. Sorry, a bit of a 'Chalet Lines' - 'The girl smells of milk' segue follows: Funny thing. My two favourite songwriters of the last twenty years share the same intials. Stephen Malkmus wouldn't be far off either. And now I'm belated becoming obsessed with Stephin Merritt. Three of them have varients of the same first name too. OK, it's not funny. It's just a meaningless coincidence, but humans have an irrational urge to point out meaningless coincidences. And I'm human. Not a gorilla. I dressed as a gorilla cavalier to a party once. I met another gorilla cavalier there and it was the best sex that I ever had. Last Smiths reference: nessa wondered why their videos were so crap. Well they refused to make them for a long time, which led their US record company to commission their own promos 'in a Smiths vein'. So you get some NHS-bespectacled oaf in NHS specs for 'Ask' and some troubled arty girl spinning round like a loon for 'How Soon is Now?'. The first one made with their involvement was the 'parodic' one for 'I Started Something I Couldn't Finish', I think. Or maybe there was one for 'Girlfriend in a Coma'. I can't remember. Anyway, then they split up and Morrissey decided he loved looking at himself after all, so he made lots more. David was funny with his like/don't like ratios for all the albums. I can't imagine not liking that many songs of my favourite band. I like 8/11 songs on the new one but to me that's a pretty poor return. I don't like having to sit tight and take the clunks or use the skip button. My spies tell me that the rotter Trousers has gone off to form a Spearmint mailing list which he says will be just like Sinister but more intellectual. Ha! As if. Nicholas 'skinny raw rebellious' Dastoor xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: New Diary of a Band
by Mick Cooke 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Hello all, The Glasgow University Guardian has stopped publishing for the summer break. We don't even know if they want to include our diaries in the next academic year (different staff), but we're going to continue the diaries whenever the mood takes us. DIARY OF A BAND 16th June 2000 It's been two weeks now since Top of the Pops, and seeing as Stuart's been in the States since then, and Diary time is here again, I thought I'd better write a bit about that. Playing on Top of the Pops truly was a lifetime's ambition realised. It didn't disappoint either, something I have heard other bands bemoan. As we may never have such a chance again, we decided to make the most of it. There was quite a crowd of us there. Our (mentally un-)sound engineer Tony Doogan came along, and caused quite a stir with his monkey cavalier cavortings. He was actively encouraged by us, naturally. What happened was, we had hired two costumes, the monkey suit and the cavalier, for two people to wear. We thought Jonny Quinn- on bongos- might want to wear the monkey suit, but understandably he wanted his face seen on the telly. Can you imagine- 'Look mum, that's me there, on Top of the Pops. That's right, the gorilla'. So it was all down to Tony. He tried the monkey suit, he tried the cavalier, but neither seemed quite right. It was Chris who suggested he be a monkey cavalier, and the rest is, well, history. Needless to say, Tony was the biggest hit with the kids. The flowers weren't our idea, by the way. They were there when we got there. Obviously some bright spark at the BBC thought, 'L.O.V.E, love, what does that suggest? Ah, I know, roses!'. Quite a good thing to throw at a young teenage crowd though. We had a blast. Afterwards, in the bar, Stevie achieved another lifetime's ambition by jamming with Chrissie Hynde. I don't understand how it started really, but I turn round one minute, and there's Stevie doing his Elvis Costello impression- he always does 'The Sun Has Got His Hat On'- to Chrissie Hynde, and she's doing her Joni Mitchell impression back! Then she gives us a medley of Pretenders classics. At one point she was kneeling on a chair, with Stuart's electric guitar held against a bar table (to amplify it), screaming away at 'Don't Get Me Wrong'. It was during this stage of the proceedings that some people thought it would be a good idea to check out Albert Square. So off they trooped, past the 'no entry' signs, into the Square, into Pauline's house, over to the Queen Vic (all the lights were out). Neil and Richard had a piss in the bushes in the Square. Then security arrived. Stuart legged it, and Neil and Richard, having relieved themselves, were off, but the others were held in the security hut while the police were called. It took the Top of the Pops producer and Jamie Theakston to diffuse the situation. Watching Eastenders will never be the same again. Mick Cooke _________________________________________________________ the Official Belle and Sebastian Band Site is at: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S picnics in UMEA/ SWEDEN
by Nilesh Chauhan 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

hiya, im quite new here and i have noticed all this talk of picnics here and there and i was wondering if someone can fill me in, is there to be any picnics in sweden? or have i missed them? i currently reside in Umeå, are there any other B&S fans on this list from the same town??? actually i dont mind hearing from any swedes on this list... as i mentioned, im new to the list so here is some stuff about me : Name : Nilesh Chauhan Age : 21 Home town : birmingham, england Fav bands : b&s, red house painters, sunny day real estate, posies, travis, mogwai, placebo, pearl jam, brandtson, radiohead, modest mouse, rainer maria, godspeed YBE, sleater kinney, grandaddy, pedro the lion, mercury rev etc etc etc Also like : to read ( stuff like plath, brett easton ellis etc ) and football ( arsenal fan) and films ( happiness, i shot andy warhol, basquiat, lost highway) that'll do take care all and be nice to me :) Nilesh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i never knew picnics could be so much fun!
by amy_jackson0 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

hello chickens, how are you all? well, i'm okay, recovering from my brief trip to the bright lights of Glasgow and Edinburgh (hello Jarvis! don't have your email addy so mail me!) which was extremely cool....met up with the *wonderful* Jason Andreas and equally cool Neil Milton and went to the sinister picnic, which was cool but scary cos I was dead shy, so sorry if i seemed distant, i was just nervous, and recovering form going up to the top of the Scott Monument, which is a big thing for someone who is scared of heights....But it was a great laugh, despite the other people in Princes Street Gardens letting their rubbish blow in the wind onto us, grrr.....then everyone went to the pub, where i was sat with Jason, Neil, our mate Claire and Lucy Alder, who travelled all the way from LONDON!!! I couldn't believe it, there i was thinking i'd travelled pretty far (250 miles)..........well done Lucy!! Said goodbye to Honey too, despite being too shy to speak to him all day...sorry 'bout that....the picnic was ace, i had such a good time, we really must do it again some time.... saw looper at King Tuts on Sunday night too, which was sublime......met Sarah Martin and Chris Geddes too, which was completely unexpected but Very Nice. and Stuart David dedicated a song to me, which was also a *HUGE* shock, but a lovely one at that, i'll remember it always, cheers Jason....xxx.....was trying to think what was the best song they did, i'm torn between "Impossible Things #2" and "Puddle Monkey", simply for Stu D's megaphoned "1-2-3-4"!!!! it was a superb weekend........thanks lads! *ahem* i finally got FISHYCLAP too, have to say i think it is brilliant, especially "Waiting For The Moon To Rise", "There's Too Much Love" and "Don't Leave The Light On Baby".......all we need now are some live dates, hint hint.......i dunno whether it's better than Tigermilk, it's different to all the albums i suppose.....at the moment i prefer it to IYFS and TBWTAS, but not to Tigermilk......i dunno, maybe that'll change...... okay, i need a good moan, so you're all gonna bear the brunt of it.....all weekend i wore a pair of rather fetching/slightly mental pink Doc Martin sandals, which looked nice when i bought them, but were extremely uncomfortable.....well, i now have two *HUGE* infected cuts, which started off as small blisters, on my heels, and i cannae walk! it's awful, I have to balance on my tip-toes to walk anywhere cos if i put my feet flat on the ground it stretches the blisters and they bleed and *urgh* it's just disgusting! any ideas on how i can stop them from hurting??? i don't mean to make you all sick with this, i'm just desperate for some help cos THEY HURT!!!!! ~bursts into tears~ righty, that's me done for a while....... take care, be happy, keep smiling weeamybelle xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************ "if there's a place i wanna go, then i'll be there with you, cos in my dreams the things i'm wishing for keep coming true" ************************************ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: No Trousers, No Comment
by Peter Miller 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Sometimes when listees leave it feels like the end of an era. Sad, but we can get over it. Trousers' departure, however, feels like the end of two eras, a kind of cruel double whammy. Not only will the list have to survive without one of the keenest upholders of the Jasper Buckaroo aesthetic, the Poetry Society is to lose him too. After perking up a bit with Ted Hughes' "The Birthday Letters" and Seamus Heaney's recent translation of "Noggin the Nog", both ghostwritten by Trousers, I feel sure than British poetry is heading for a long spell in the doledrums, apart from Buzzwords. My fondest memory of Trousers comes from the excellent book "The Message". It's the bit where Trousers is reading Boyzone lyrics to a load of schoolchildren. We shall never see his like again, and neither will the schoolchildren. I read Staurt's letter to the NME yesterday. My mouth is opening and closing but no sound is coming out. In his mardy-arsed reply, Steven Wells claims that B&S fans wouldn't know a good rock'n'roll tune if it bit them. That's not true is it, Fuzzbox fans? Thank you to Jason Connery for sending in that article about Stuart's new gas-guzzling motor. Most enjoyable. Peter "It's not a woman. because it carries you about and does things and it's black, you look at it more as your butler." - Stuart Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: calling all the heroes - shooting up the town boy
by Claire Timmins 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

dear all (well you french ones) As you amy know, V-Twin are playing in Paris on the 21st/20th/22nd (not sure really) of June. They are playing alongside the French national orchestra, and Chirac will be there. Anyway the help I require is this: does anyone know of a website that would broadcast such a thing? Is there a french music, news site that has mentioned this? Or are there any I should check? thanks. claire* ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: writing frightening verse to a bucktooth gurl in luxembourg *smiths quote subject line no 345732*
by nessa 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

1: nessa has a whinge I'm feeling a wee bit down for some reason I don't really understand. my exams are nearly finished and its officially summer. It could have something to do w/ the fact I haven't gotten any non mailing list mail in about 2 weeks. I'm putting a hex on people who haven't e mailed me back in yonks as I type. Plus I haven't gotten post in days. Or many phone calls. And god it makes me feel miserable. I saw the video for the delgados' american trilogy last night. they're very into the cycling thing still, most bands w/ outside obsessions lose them after the first album. I'm impressed. I got a video of Smiths videos for xmas and I was really disappointed w/ it, I watched it for the first time today. b+s have the knack of epitomising the song in their videos, or they used to. I haven't seen the one for legal man yet. anyway, most of the videos the smiths did didn't. the video for Ask was probably pretty trendy looking at the time but the kleidung etc made me cringe now. 2: nessa get confus-sed >he has his septum pierced when I read that first I thought of the septum of the heart rather than the septum of the nose. It took me a minute to realise what she meant. Apparantly someone who used to be in eastenders has no more septum due to too much of the white stuff. And thats not flour. and, ehh, what the fuck is an ampallang? do I want to know? nessa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Toronto picnic
by Red Geisha 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

And also have a few >recommendations on what to see? where to stay? and where to go out?:) There are a million good places to stay it depends on what your range is. You may want to see the usual, CN Tower, Canada's Wonderland, etc. Queen St. & Yorkville are two of the better shopping experiences. Penguin Music @ Queen & McCaul is your best to find good music...you can also look at a bunch of flyers in any of the clothing/music stores on Queen St. to fit your musical tastes. As for places to club there are three or four options, depending on your taste. A new night is beginning on the 23rd @ the Down One called "The Vanity Fair" which will feature pop, uk indie, etc. There is also "The International Colouring Contest" on every 2nd Friday. "Soul Night" at the Rivoli happens once or twice monthly. There is also "Blow-Up" on Saturdays which is a soul, groove, psych, uk-indie, pop night and has been running in various incarnations for four years. That is located at the El Mocamobo @ Spadina & College. We have loads of beautiful bars in the city & some new hot Bubble tea rooms. Try the College strip for nice bars & Cumberland St. for the new Bubble tea room. For more interesting eye candy I'd also visit Chinatown on the weekend, Kensington Market, the AGO or the Bata Shoe Museum. >As for the picnic.. Can anyone help me find a nice park where we can go?:) > Ha! You obviously didn't get the memo, all our parks have been inhabited by the cities homeless. Many of our downtown parks aren't worth the bother anymore as our gov't has been skimpy on cheap housing...some people even have tents! There is High Park (the best park in the city) but it is massive. The park in Kensington isn't too bad but it really depends on the day and weekends are also filled with suburban kids napping before their next "party". ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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