June 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: dc/va/md MAKE-OUT PARTY @ Now! music & fashion. free cupcakes + tunes!
by lost madflowr 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

christa asked "when was the last time *you* felt real joy?" i say...last saturday. splendid time at the b&s pic-ee-nic at rock creek park. then laini and i jumped over to see this amazing band longwave [my third time] at the velvet lounge [the epitome of the word 'dive'] and then to the mousetrap! belle & sebastian were played at least three times! and what fun it was. i met up with a sinister boy who i had apparently met a few times before. and i had completely forgot. now i remember a little. i think that is the number one reason i don't drink the alcohol! 'cos my memory is already rotten and i'd rememember even less if i drank! ha! okay pertinent information about make-out party will follow, but i am also going to add that the wonderfully entertaining steve[walkn10]'s band, callow, have been asked to play the next make-out party; just in case you can't come to this one. sure it's before the cure, but the cure is at night and make-out party takes place during the day! woo! voyeurism hoy! evol, maddy! MAKE-OUT PARTY [an event that proves virginia is for lovers] June 17th, 2000. @ NOW! Music & Fashion now! is located at 3100 Clarendon Blvd. in Clarendon/Arlington, VA. http://www.nowmusicandfashion.com the event runs from 12:30ish p.m. until around 5:00 p.m. A day for socializing with kids in your scene whilst eating free cupcakes and drinking fruit punch. To boot, you get to see great local bands of many different genres at the event. get there sometime before 1:00 p.m. and stay until around 5:00 p.m. to see the following bands: *worn thin: They're a hair metal band without the hair. They play melodic emo and punk and they're waiting for 80's metal to make a comeback. *devon green: a boy band similiar to n'sync without the choreography, or the glittery clothing. scratch that. they play catchy pop along the lines of ben lee, buffalo tom, and the lemonheads. and they'll steal your girlfriend's hearts away if you don't watch out. *the mallstars: coming out of the town of Actiondale, Virginia rise the Mallstars. A sure fire mixture of power pop and punk, you will never be left without feeling to dance again. They combine their influences of the Hi Fives, Mr T Experience, Buzzcocks and the Ramones in a way that has never been heard before. They are the new teen sensation that's sweeping the nation and you will be mesmerized. *barcelona: innocent casio-core from arlington, va! barcelona play indie pop that will make you swoon. girl/boy vocals switch on and off for the sweetest sounds on march records. their second cd will be out soon. visit website at http://www.barcelonadc.com *anne summers: power pop band following in the footsteps of Elvis Costello and the Jam. Popmatters [http://www.popmatters.com] dubbed them as "melodic, crunchy music similar to late '70s New Wave bands". their second album, "very classy" was released in March 2000 on Beatville Records. visit the anne summers website at http://www.veryclassy.org questions: see the flier at http://www.underworld.net/~madflowr/makeoutpartyflier.jpg or email make_out_party(a)hotmail.com about it. if you prefer human contact call now! music & fashion at (703) 528-9059 or the organizer of the event at (703) 971-8135. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S videos online
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

hey gang, Just a quick general enquiry (cf. my usualy long missives ...). Has anyone been to have a look at the B&S videos on the iCrunch site? I tried to look at the video for "Legal Man", but my ultra-slow connection meant that the clip stopped every 10 seconds or so, stalled for about 20, and then kept on playing/stopping/playing. Irritating. Anyway, I figure there must be a way to find the actual source video, and download it, rather than have it stream into the computer. Any ideas, net boffins? I know the video doesn't get saved in my 'temporary internet items' cache. One of my friends managed to download all 17MB of the "Lord Of The Rings" trailer, as when he saved it to 'favourites' and opend the 'favourites' file in a text editor, the URL of the source file was there. Any ideas on how I can do this for the B&S videos? (And sorry for techno-spamming everyone ...) Lawrence +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: More post-match analysis, switch over if you want to
by Robin Stout 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Hello listees The Chalet Lines. I'm not going to say I can't understand what the fuss is about, and I've never been very close to the consequences of a rape, nor would like to be, so ignore me if you want, but I like this song. I can see peoples' objections to it, but I've been trying to work out why I think otherwise, so here goes. There are different faults people find with the song. Firstly, I don't think there's any problem with Stuart singing it from the point of view of a woman. I think, as Katarina said, that it sounds more like a friend telling the story to him. Stuart often changes person during a song (Electronic Renaissance is a classic example), and he does at the end of this (from "I" to "she"), so I don't think he's really singing "as a rape victim", but more like the echo from a sounding board. Belle and Sebastian often sing about pretty grim subjects, bullying, adultery, suicide, loneliness, even murder, and I've always wondered why some people have a sickly sweet impression of them. I think that some people ( including Steven Wells, maybe?), prefer a safer, more aggressive, style of "issue" songwriting, and feel more comfortable with it, like a faded black t-shirt. But, to my ears, Stuart has always touched on a more profound sadness that is caused by these events, rather than the anger that more people see. I don't think The Chalet Lines is gratuitous, or gauche, I just think it sounds quite helpless. Some people dislike the Chalet Lines, Nice Day For A Sulk segue. Maybe I'm biased because I like both songs, but I don't think Nice Day... is tactlessly happy or anything. It's just a song about kicking about town, like String Bean Jean was. And that's what I'm off to do now... Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S Time
by Valiums＠aol.com 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Hello, My friend just called me all excited and out of breath saying I wouldn't believe what he had to tell me. Believe it or not this weeks Time Magazine in the states has dedicated a full page with pictures to the band. He started to read the article to me but my phone died after he got the second word out. So if anyone is interested just pick up a copy of Time. Jason +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: everyone suffers in silence or bedlam
by Rickbozard＠aol.com 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Now look here you winy twee bastards, the verdict is in and upon repeated listen the new album stands up just fine. There simply is no "best" b+s album. They are the rare band whose entire catalouge lives up to their reputation. To be frank, every belle and sebastian album is rather boring upon first listen. They are exceedingly subtle, and the quality of their work doesn't become apparent until multiple listens. The non stuart murdoch members are finally writing good songs and, while we'd all like more murdoch numbers, it's a fine, and fairly successful, stab at democracy. I understand that b+s fans tend to be the moody,meloncholy sort who are eternally nostalgic for their treasured albums of the past, but let's face it, as soon as another album comes out it will get the fyhcywlap treatment and this album willl be bumped into the cannon of b+s classics. I suspect that this arab strap is moving up in status as I speak. Go eat your tea and crumpets you whiny brats, and enjoy the new album. "i may very well be responsible, but i'll be damned if i'm going to take responsibility." -me +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Review of FYHCYWLAP in Rolling Stone
by RAnder3567＠aol.com 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

>From the review in Rolling Stone in the latest issue: "Had Nick Drake lived long enough to know how to smirk, he would have loved this band." Amen. Robert in NYC +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by Kip Berman 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Around 1:00 AM, I sat down to watch the supposed debut of "the wrong girl" video. After watching an hour or so of the ever so tuneful limp bizkit and company, i realized that i had "the wrong channel." And while yes, i was watching MTV, for some reason my television decided that it would prefer to broadcast the much anticipated sequel, M2. Perhaps i'm not familiar with the workings of a television. This is the part of the post in which i ask for sympathy. Simply press "reply" and type the following: "kip, that's awful! I feel bad that you didn't get to see 'the wrong girl'." You can even personalize it if you like. My hobbies and interests include, but are not limited to: 1) loafing 2) reading 3) record stores 4) the color yellow 5) thrift stores 6) walks 7) tea I'm sure this makes me ever so unique among my fellow listees :-) -Kip ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Funny dreams and fascist machines
by Mr Smiley 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Hullo, Coo, this is weird. I'm feeling all funny from reading all day. Anyhow. B&S Dreams -------------- I haven't had any. At all, ever. Well, I might have... but I don't remember my dreams. I do however, remember my nightmares, and this is what I'm going to talk about. You see, for no good reason whatsoever, whenever I listen to Fold Your Hands... before going to bed I have horrific nightmares. They're getting increasingly bizarre. The first one was about spiders crawling into my mouth, even though I actually think spiders are quite sweet and very unscary. The second time I came home from school late (despite the fact that I have actually left school) to find my brother was getting severely drunk with all his friends, and they'd started to cook some snacks but had forgotten. So the kitchen was on fire and there was a molten pizza oozing out of the oven. Then the microwave exploded (this is all still in dream world). But the third one is the best. I dreamt that in order to achieve greater chart success, B&S decided to re-release Legal Man as a double A side with The Bloodhound Gang's The Bad Touch. It went straight to number one, and both bands were so pleased they decided to merge and write songs about breasts forever and ever. --------------- What does all that prove? It proves that I am probably completely nuts, and I should stop eating cheese before bedtime. And it looks like I shall have to be leaving my job. This is probably a good thing, because it's quite a nasty one. I'm trying to decide now how much I want that reference, or should I just tell my boss to cram it? Although I *will* be writing to head office. Since I've been working there I've been overworked to the (illegal) level where I have to do 7 hours without so much as a tea break, I've been made to work in an office thick with paint fumes nearly causing me to crash my car on the way home, and my wages have been handled with a level of incompetence unseen since Gay Dad hired a new PR rep. And of course I have to take all my holidays first. £320 pounds for doing absolutely nothing? Yes puuurlease. Not that I'm materialistic or anything. I'm trying to write this post to be as fluffy as possible so it doesn't get deemed offensive by someone and sent back. I'm not too sure about the word 'breasts' though. The culprit with the fascistic censoring machine is 94rebeccasmalley(a)tretherras.cornwall.sch.uk, so if you're having a bad day, send your offensive rants to her. She won't be able to read them :) Ah yes, I have a little observation on The Chalet Lines. Not on the lyrical front (I'm of the opinion that it's a good song, by the way) but on a style one. It's quite traditional B&S isn't it? What does TBWTAS not have that all the other's do? A piano led sad song a la We Rule The School/Fox In The Snow/The Chalet Lines. Unless you count Chickfactor, but I meant it in a kind of minimalist, Stuart warbling away at a piano, kind of way. Right, I'll be off to read the awful books I'm supposed to be studying for English Lit. Again. Before I go I'll just say thanks to whoever awarded me their list crush vote. Unless, of course, it's you James. Or you Rob (in which case get a life guys:)). If it isn't either of those budding comedians then it's someone very fluffy and nice. Cheers. Platonic hugs, Mike ICQ: 73775341 Email - smiley(a)rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk The Black Den - http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: rose-tinted spectacles
by Paul Arathoon 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Well, this has been on my mind for a bit now and prompted by the rash of album reviews on Sinister I thought I might as well speak my mind... Bascially my first problem with the various assessments of the new album is that they almost all look back at the previous 3 with the proverbial rose tinted spectacles. They seem to ignore the fact that neither Tigermilk, Sinister or Arab Strap are flawless. Just think about Electronic Renaissance, You're just a Baby, Me and the Major,and Chickfactor. Good songs, yes. Great songs, no. (insert counter-arguments here). The songs on Fold your Hands are easily up there with anything on any other release and it is a far more cogent, cohesive album than Arab Strap. It is far from flawless but maybe that's part of the beauty. Whatever, take off the rose tinted specs. My second thought is vaguely linked to that: For most listees I imagine that all of B&S' previous releases have some kind of context. They remind people of summer/winter/great parties/breaking up with people/being young/falling in love/falling down stairs etc etc. I doubt that Fold Your Hands can have any context at all for anyone. No one can really have had a copy for more than 2 months or so (I ahve had it for a bout 6 weeks).That's why for some of you, some of the songs dissapoint or sound less good than you expected- they don't remind you of any emotion. You are listening to it cold with no point of reference. Looking back on IYFS all the songs remind me times/people and therefore I judge the songs within the context I think of them in and I think that's the way music should be judged. Not necessarily how it sounds but how it makes you feel. Wait 6 months and then post a review. If I had the guts I would say here "Music should come from the heart, not from the head". However that sentance makes me want to be sick. It sounds as if it came from a rockumentary on Kenny G or soemthing. Paul ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Silly bunnies.....
by FEHBP Training Account 4 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Hello All I finally picked up the yellow one. It is beautiful. I can't believe all the past talk of selling out. (I can't believe all you fuzzy pink bunnies were ripping each others heads off over that argument I don't see it at all.) My favorites being -I fought in a war, Don't leave the light on baby, the wrong girl, The chalet lines, and Nice day for a sulk. -Beyond the sunrise kind of freaked me out. It's not that I don't like it , but I feel likes it coming at me through some time warp from a church in the 50's and it's being filtered through a large cube of Jell-O and I'm in the middle of the cube hearing it. Seriously this is the image it brings to mind. The Chalet Lines I have to thank Katrina Karlsson. Her mail expressed probably what I could not. I had a friend who was raped by her uncle. She told her family and they blamed her. When I asked her why she did not go to the police she said some thing along the lines of the chalet lines "oh what's the fucking point" She had a overwhelming sense of helplessness and so did I not knowing what to do. This song hits pretty close for me. I wasn't sure how I would feel about it before hearing it .-but he sings it honestly and it is wonderful. Sadly I could not make the picnic this past weekend ,but I did buy a new guitar so life is pretty darn good . Alix. "It's up to YOU. the superheros of the future, to hang the tire swing of nice-nice from the highest branches and SWING FOR JUSTICE!" (the tick) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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