June 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Just a modern mail about the chalet lines
by Katarina Karlsson 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Hi I promissed myself not to write about this song but after all the other mails about it I have to ad this. I keep it short: It is typical cliches about the way women who have been raped feel, but it is wath they tell their, virgin friend later. I don't know if it helps raped girls to hear this song but it helpd me (her virgin friend). When I heard this song the first time, it tock me back to that bus stop whe´re she told me. how a lot of strange pices just fell to place. And I went home and cried and told myself that it was impossible and I felt so stupid. I know a lot of people doesn't like it but but I want to tell you that it can be a very important and comforting song for other. I don't know what B&S does when they make this kind of songs but in some way they put "hope and beauty" (I can't find better words) to my most painful memories. If you have a friend who always want you to come with her when she seeing one of her friends at his home even if you feel under his smile that you are not welcome there, than it can be one of the bad signes. Something is totaly wrong in a society where a girl shold feel that way after a rape. Nice day for a sulk is the perfect song after the chalet lines, catch me nice and safe as only B&S can do after the Chalet lines. I think it is a bit similar to the magic Fox in a...- Get me.... combination from sinister. So I don't know if it was a good idea to write this but I had to. kram Katarina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The list's favourite B&S song?
by Sam Walton 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Hi there all. You may remember about a month ago, I posted asking people to send me their favourite three B&S songs, and Id compile a Sinister chart as it were, pre-album and pre-single release. And successful it has been. I had about 250 votes, which accounts for around one fifth of the list, and although there were those who just wrote to me to tell me that it was a stupid idea, the results are pretty interesting. When a song was placed first, it got 3 points, placed second it got 2 points, and last it got 1 point. You get the idea. Well then, without further ado, Ill open the little envelope to say what the lists 10 favourite (and least favourite) songs are: SAVE THESE FOR THE ENCORES, GUYS 10. Shes Losing It (36) 9. We Rule The School (41) 8. Dirty Dream Number Two (42) 7. Sleep The Clock Around (45) 6. Like Dylan In The Movies (46) 5. Lazy Line Painter Jane (54) 4. My Wandering Days Are Over (65) 3. Slow Graffiti (78) 2. The State That I Am In (91) 1. Get Me Away From Here, Im Dying (138) AND LEAVE THESE OFF THE SETLIST 10. Mayfly (8) 9. I Dont Love Anyone (7) 7=. Seymour Stein (6) 7=. A Space Boy Dream (6) 6. The Rollercoaster Ride (5) 5. Electronic Renaissance (4) 4. It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career (2) 3. You Made Me Forget My Dreams (1) 1=. The Gate (0) 1=. Chickfactor (0) Well there you go. Make of that what you will. The only really big thing is that GMAFHID is the lists favourite song by FAR. But still interesting. Anyway, enjoy and discuss Love, Sam.x "Bad times will pour sugar in you gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows whilst dating your current boy- or girlfriend behind your back, and billing the dinner and hotel room to your Visa card" - Laika ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: whiskey and coke, sunburned noses
by christa 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

i have had a revelation about the new album. i think it was written for women. almost every song has that quality. whereas TBWTAS seems to be quite manly. (well, as manly as they could dare get- we're not talking AC/DC here, folks). i've never liked TBWTAS. when i listen to it, i have to skip over like 4 or 5 of the songs. none of them speak to me at all, except maybe "roller coaster ride". a good portion of it is catchy, but i never pull it out of my shelf and throw it on the old stereo. like, NEVER. but, on tuesday night i drove down to visit my best friend in VA and i listened to it the whole way there, and the whole way back today. i think its f-ing brilliant. i don't really know why, its all shimmery and summery and SAD. and maybe that's what i'm in the mood for right now. the only song i can't listen to is #3. i'm sorry, but their voices sound like doodoo. the lyrics are great, but sheesh- those vocals! yikes. every other song is topnotch. sarah martin is my hero. she's hot. she's on fire. her voice is so nice. and those of you who have issue with "the chalet lines" don't know someone who was raped. this isn't going to turn into a dear diary, but when you are raped, survival is what you think of. you detach yourself, it IS like watching a documentary of a life. i don't find that song to be cliché at all, and anyone who would say that (a man) doesn't know the first thing about a rape. i mean, other than what you get from a film or made for TV movie. what its REALLY like to live through that... its not all wailing and gnashing of teeth and hating men. its sincere sadness, self-doubt, emptiness, trying to live and make yourself whole again. listen to it with that in mind. "the model" and "there's too much love" are like in my top B&S songs ever. "family tree" is NOT a waste of studio time (STEVE!!) - it makes me happy to be female. i'm no baby-maker! ha! and her voice has never sounded better. she's no sarah martin, but you know.. ;) anyway, after that little lecture.. i want to remind you all of the DC sinister picnic tomorrow from 4pm to dark in Rock Creek Park, picnic grove #9. be there and be square! bring food and whatnot. its going to be fab. ok, all. have lovely weekends and smile and get out in the sun and drink lemonade and eat cherries. i want you all to promise me you're going to have a fantastic time, no matter what you do. i have realized over the last three days that i have totally lost track of what it takes to have joy in my life. when was the last time *you* felt real joy? go out and get it. love and hamsters, .christa. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: The Chalet Lines, cliches and emotions
by Scott Turner 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

I think the cliche issue of this song is not that "all rapes are the same", but that Stuart's artistic expression of this incident is cliche in its kind of flat first person documentary style. I think because of this it lacks power- which to me is disturbing given that the content is about a rape. Let me compare it to "ease your feet into the sea"- a song that seems to be about something equally tragic- suicide, i think is what is being referenced- but its so nuanced and different and literary and personal that it takes on (for me at least) a weighty affective magic. Its beautiful, swelling and deeply personal without reverting to documentary style directness. You know the lyrics, but look at them again: "Troubles come and troubles go The trouble that we've come to know Will stay with us till we get old Will stay with us till somebody decides to go Decides to go Soberly, without regret, 1 make another sandwich And I fill my face, 1 know that things have got to you But what can 1 do? Suddenly, without a warning On a pale blue morning You decide your time is wearing thin A conscious choice to let yourself go dangling Hovering It's an emergency There's no more "wait and see" Maybe if I shut my eves Your trouble will be split between us People come and people go You're scouring everybodies face For some small flicker of the truth To what it is that you are going through, my boy I left you dry The signs were clear that you were not going anywhere Anywhere Save for a falling down Everything's going wrong" and then compare them to the writing from chalet lines: "He raped me in the chalet lines The girl I shared with was away for the night I couldn't get up for my shift today I'll have to leave the camp now anyway I'll go to London there's a mate of mine I know she'll give me a place Full of woe and further to go She caught the bus "Oh I'll go anywhere" She caught the bus Her face was just a smear on the pane" To me, chalet lines reads like a documentary and not a song. Its just not very literary or affective compared to his other work. Which may be my point with the songwriting on the new album- it sounds to me really uninspired- like Stuart was depressed when he was writing- not melancholic and emotional, but instead empty and depressed- like he writers block or something. I think Stuart in the past has wrote very literary songs drenched in emotions- like he was able to ride the fine line between melancholy and depression and joy and mania and manifest it into beautiful art. But this album, for me, lies emotionally flat, and in many places, feels forced and empty. Just some thoughts. .scott Memo from Mark on 9 June 2000, 12:45 EDT Friday To: sinister cc: (bcc: Scott Turner) Subject: Sinister: The Chalet Lines Maybe I'm just as bad as Stuart, but "a clichéd rape"? Is this possible? Isn't rape, by definition, something intensely personal and (hopefully) unique, something which comes in as many forms as there are victims? Some may question the wisdom of Stuart writing the song. I quite literally did at the press conference. However, I don't personally think it was unwise, but courageous ("brave" always seems a bit weedy, almost an excuse). When I spoke to Stuart after the event, partly to apologise in case I had embarrassed him, he said he was pleased someone had asked him a question that didn't have a mindless journalese answer (sorry if I'm blowing my own trumpet here, but it's an important subject, I think). The point was that something very emotional affecting happened to a friend of Stuart's, and many years later it still made enough of an impression for him to want to express how he feels about it, the incident, the subject. For one second imagine if he'd written a third person account. Yuk. Instead, Stuart puts himself in an extremely vulnerable emotional position - I'm sure it was hard for him to express those emotions, and I'm sure he's aware that others will interpret them negatively, in ways he never meant, and he's prepared to stand up for himself. The song is awkward and sometimes difficult to listen to, but I can't imagine any male putting it more honestly or more sensitively. Perhaps, you may argue, that's the point - he simply shouldn't have written about it. I strongly believe the opposite, and to me, this otherwise unremarkable song is probably the most vital on the album. Stuart, so adept at writing about the vague and abstract, has taken an impossible subject and tackled it without hesitation. It's one of the few pieces of evidence that B&S are moving forward, rather than treading water and indulging in retro as recent releases have hinted at. 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Sinister: since I'm not sad today.
by LNino＠levi.com 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Hola a todos: I am listening to "I fought in a war", I like that song... I guess we find the most beauty in a song when the song relates to us... I guess that is why most of us think that the best B&S song is "Get me away from here I'm dying", I guess many of us wish that on a daily basis. I want to share a small story a friend once told me: A man had been walking for many, many hours, until he got too tired to walk anymore. He arrived to a cementery, he lied down on a gravestone and fell asleep until the next morning. When he woke up he rubbed his eyes and looked around. He got up and started reading the names and dates of the people in those graves. He read many names, and he read the dates on the gravestones 1973-1975, 1984-1989, 1991-1992, and so on.. he couldn't find a single grown up in the cementery. He felt so bad he sad down and started crying. The cementery care taker approached him and asked him? Why are you crying? The man said, "I can't believe these children died so young" " I can't find a single grown up in this cementery". The care taker said: "This cementery is not like the others, those dates on the grave stones are the actual time they lived, those years are the sum of the happy moments in their lives, that is how long they really lived. This man for instance died when he was 70 years old, he only lived 10, this woman died when she was 40, she just lived 6 months, and so on. It is indeed sad that they lived such short lives..." The friend who told me this is the most carefree person I know, or at least he seems to be... he seems to be happy all the time.. who knows. I'm down to Wating for the moon to rise... pretty song. the think with B&S songs is that there is always a perfect moment in the day to listen to that perfect song that makes the perfect soundtrack for it. Sorry if I sound a bit rambled, english is not my first language.. Juno. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I Always Cry at Endings
by Brian Pennington 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Dear Sinister, Ah, well I've been meaning to post for over a week now, but it's been a chaotic time in the life of me. I wanted to make some observations on how B&S have affected my life, but I also want to say something about the new album. So I'll do them both, in reverse order. So if you're the kind who like reading how people think of the album, read the first part and then delete. If you like reading about people's lives only, skip on down a bit. Oh but first I was listening to a mixtape from a friend, and I realized, upon hearing a certain Velvet Underground song, that it sounded a LOT like Legal Man. Not the chords necessarily, but the bongos, the whimsy and the faux-soulness of the song. I can't remember the name of the song, though, as it's not on any of the first three albums, and that's all I've got. It's the one where Lou says "Electricity is from other planets," and the one where they're talking in the sound booth the whole time. Anyway, on to the album... The way I got to hearing FISHYCLAP is, I think, the absolute most perfect way to hear a new album by your favorite band (or one of your favorite bands). Firstly, I started to hear it wasn't good at all, and I heard a couple of good songs on Napster but I refused to listen to any more of the album until it came out properly. Then I heard it was a grower, more thoughts on the album. Then the day it came out I drove to the only independent record store here in Charleston, West Virginia (anyone else live here? Didn't think so...) and of course, Belle & Sebastian might as well have been something in another language, so I moved on to the Mall, and actually found several copies there in a chain store, priced, of course, at $18. But I bought it anyway. Then I took it home and listened to it a few times each day and have been doing so for a while, each time in its entirety. I'll say this, there's a tendency to be disappointed with bands you love, and that's why hearing it wasn't good helped me realize it was great. It easily surpassed my worried expectations. And it is a fantastic album. I'm not sure if it's better or worse than previous B&S albums, but it's fantastic. And if a lot of people don't think so and their fanbase drops then fine, that never stopped me from liking them before. As to the album as a whole, I think it's very organic, and I have no idea what people who don't think so are talking about. The production and instrumentation tie the disparate styles of songs together quite nicely, and that's the definition of the best thing to do on an album. If you write songs that all sound the same, then that's even worse, because it starts to get boring no matter how good the songs are on their own. If you just simply write different song styles without tying them together, you end up with something like Tigermilk, some excellent songs, some boring ones, and absolutely nothing to tie them all together. For the record, Tigermilk's my least favorite B&S album and from the sound of things it'll stay that way. And even if this isn't my favorite B&S album (which I haven't properly decided but it's doubtful this could best Sinister), it's certainly got some of the best Belle & Sebastian songs to date on it. The Model, for example, is astonishingly good, from the very first bit where I could swear it was going to be a Left Banke song, to Struan and Stevie trading lines like nobody's business. Mmm, and the harpsichord, yet another innovation which I think ties this album together, as it's featured on three or four songs prominently. Don't Leave the Lights on Baby is another fantastic Struan song, and I Fought in a War is lovely as well. All three of these could fit on my 'best of' B&S list. And then there's "Waiting for the Moon to Rise," which blew my mind the first time I heard it. I think Sarah is the only B&S member whose voice holds a candle to Struan's. More Sarah! Less Isobel! Sarah should sing all the backing vocals from here on in if you ask me. I never thought a song not written by Stuart M would be one of my favorites off of an album, but it is. The Wrong Girl is quite good as well, I think. Stevie's best song by far, although the strings do sound a bit iffy on it. It already grew on me since I heard the session of it, so it doesn't need repeat listenings. It actually sounds a little less country on the album. Nice Day for a Sulk is a guilty pleasure. A self-parody, but how'd they manage to make it sound so good to listen to? I'll never understand that. And Woman's Realm is very nice as well, even though it does sound a bit like a lesser Arab Strap, it's distinct and I think it stands on its own. There's Too Much Love, again, falls into the category for me of very good B&S songs on this album. So that leaves...Chalet Lines, Family Tree and Beyond the Sunrise. Two of which are the most 'controversial' songs on this album. Chalet Lines, I think, is a bit painful to listen to sometimes, but sounds good and varies the formula of the album nicely. So I'm glad it's there but in its own right I wouldn't put much value in it. I feel the same about Beyond the Sunrise, actually. As a single it would be awful, but it makes a great atmospheric album track, insuring that the album isn't too formulaic. And once you get past the first couple of verses, you get those haunting Struan and Isobel vocal harmonies with that eerie bell in the background. That's worth the track alone. The only song I'm not happy with at all is Family Tree. Who said this was penned by Stuart M? If it is he must be trying to write songs for Isobel's Gentle Waves album, as that's all it sounds like. "The Gate" is a lovely song, and it has enough B&S in it to justify it being a B&S song. But this...doesn't even sound like B&S. It's frighteningly twee, and not in the self-parody style of Nice Day for a Sulk. I'd have switched this song for Winter Wooskie if I could have chosen the tracklisting. But that's one thing I think some people haven't considered here. As much as I adore Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner, sticking that twangy monster in the middle of this album would have made it incredibly inorganic. It doesn't match up well with most of the songs, whereas most of these other ones do in their own way, even Family Tree. Another thing to consider, all of Stuart's songs on this album save I Fought in a War seem to have been written on a piano. What I mean by that is that B&S usually seem to write songs by having someone, often Struan, write a part on an instrument and vocals, and then bring it in and the group comes up with the rest. Or at least that's how Isobel described it in her Chickfactor interview. And Stuart's guitar songs usually seem to end up being more traditional band-type songs with traditional band-type instrumentation. The piano songs seem to be the ones the band gets a bit more creative on. Oh, and the efforts by non-Struan members actually seem to me to fit much better (and sound much better) on this album too. They don't stick out like sore thumbs anymore. And another thing I noticed. The use of guitar is played down a lot on this album. There are a lot of points where you can hardly hear any guitar. When it is used, the effect is wonderful, like the Byrds-y guitar bits in Waiting for the Moon to Rise, and the first shimmering electric guitar in I Fought in a War, which now that I think on it does sound a little like Love. Not as much as Expectations though ;) So they played down guitars in favor of pianos and harpsichords and organs, and when the guitars are there, their presence is all that much more appreciated in my mind. That's one of the other things that makes me feel the album is more coherent and organic. Certainly moreso than TWATTYBUS and Tigermilk. I think I'll never like it as much as Sinister but it's not going to be my least favorite B&S album, and it's excellent. That's what I think anyway. So on to the bit about my life that is only somewhat related to B&S. I made a tape of my favorite B&S songs back when Modern Rock Song came out. And one day about a week ago I took a bike ride, and that was the tape I brought with me. My life has been very chaotic lately, and I'm about to graduate. The ending in the subject header is my life as a student, and living in the town I went to school for the larger part of four years. Not that I really loved that town or being a student, it's just that endings always bother me. The finality of them. But anyway, I took my 90-minute tape with me, and I rode my bike down the path next to the Hocking River. The path goes by the Hocking for a ways, meanders along with it, then eventually crosses through a park and into a forest. I remember dodging butterflies and smelling the forest plants and the damp mud of the creeks. It's a really pretty ride, one of the things I'll miss about Athens. I didn't think about how far I'd go, I just popped the tape in, and rode until side one was over. Then I turned around and put side two in. I certainly went a lot further than I'd ever gone before. But I realized some things in those 90 minutes. One thing was that Belle & Sebastian have been a massive part of my life as a university student. I first heard them as a freshman, and now I'm graduating. I didn't even like them at first, but I remember a day when I went to do my radio show, and feeling like I wanted to transfer, hating the place I was at, and so I just went in and instead of doing my show, I listened to Sinister, which had just been put in the studio and just been released. And listening to it the first time in its entirety was like a revelation. "Get Me Away from Here, I'm Dying," seemed to echo my heart at the time perfectly. I bought Sinister the next day, and I never looked back. Listening to them brought so many memories back to me. Like how much my best friend likes Dirty Dream Number Two. That song will always remind me of her. And I was reminded of seeing them the first time with her, and how magical it was. I don't think I've ever seen any of my other favorite bands before, and some of them I never will (unless John Lennon turns up alive, for example), but it's a fantastic experience, and they were in top form when we saw them. Nothing will ever beat that sensation in my mind. Part of it from seeing one of my favorite bands, whose songs I've all but memorized, and part of it seeing that with someone special to me, who felt the same way. I remember once, I had listened to the same tape and almost posted to the list about the experience I had with it. I was to pick up a friend from the airport in Columbus, and my car's battery had died. I called a towing service to come jump it, but they nearly missed me, and I had to run out waving my arms, and I slipped and fell on one of the many patches of ice then in my desperation. But I got ahold of them and I took off, speeding towards Columbus so my friend wouldn't have to wait in the airport any longer than neccessary. And as B&S played I travelled too fast over ice and snow, worried I'd spin out or my car would collapse. Several banging noises happened, but nothing severe enough to cause me problems. As it turns out the car had more than battery problems, and though it seemed fine when I picked my friend up, it later broke down in Columbus, and we were stuck in the cold for a long time, until a preacher drove me to get a new battery. Anyway, although I was listening to B&S at the time, I never did post about it, because for a while I was too busy entertaining my friend, and then I decided it didn't have much to do with the band or the music. But this bikeride did. I feel like B&S are a part of me. And as I unsteadily open a new chapter in my life, it's reassuring to know that a new Belle & Sebastian album is here with me, to help get me through the tough times and to etch the good times in my memory. This album does seem a bit more like a tough times kind of album, though, truthfully. So I hope that doesn't bode ill for me. I think Nick Hornby said, probably in High Fidelity, something to the effect that songs never let you down. Your life can let you down, people and material things can let you down, but songs never do. That seems as good a place as any to stop. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky(a)mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: <http://www.indiepages.com/sandcastle/> "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Re: When I went down to the woods today...
by Neil Milton 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Hi folks, I need a wee bit of help, can someone post to me (off-list of course) a wee bit of info about the picnic on Saturday. Also does anyone live near airdrie and is going to the picnic... I kinda need to cadge a lift off someone. sorry about evading the 15min rule, had to be quick. thanks to anyone who can help. cheers, Neil ===== ********************************************************** "he has no idea where he's at or where he's been." Queen of the Troubled Teens - iDLEWiLD ********************************************************** Neil Milton neil_milton(a)yahoo.com too many fireworks - http://www.geocities.com/fireworks317 Troika - http://www.geocities.com/troika317 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ooh, before I go...
by idle berry 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

well, okay, months have not yet passed* before I depart, but this is my last (for a while) post. I thought i'd give you a wee treat before I go, a wee animation that I made up and added. Hey, even Popex are linking to it! http://www.geocities.com/idleberry/stu.gif got a job sorted for the summer, in the gyle in Embra. also, one final request, if you care, um, I got a new poll on my site, for the sexiest member of B+S. Currently their manager is winning, along with Isobel Campbell. So y'know, you might want to go and cast your vote into the pit there. also, did anyone else get any junk mail sent to them about jeepster/icrunch? just out of curiousity. I did, and I'm not particularly fussed, but it messes up this e mail account that I keep clean of junk e mail and purely for the voices of my sinister siblings. I know I should have perhaps said this all yesterday, so big sorry to you all. Hope you all have a lovely summer, and happy holidays. love, hugs and that sort of thing, Idles * unless you too live in a little bubble where time is of no consequence... until your essays are due in!! ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry try http://welcome.to/nothingtowear for a change.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hmmph...looks like no picnic for me...
by Alan Burns 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

...as I can't get anyone at all to cover my Saturday afternoon-evening shift at the work. oh well, have fun everyone who turns up. hope the sun shines (with the way Edinburgh's looked over the past week or so, it'll be a miracle!) maybe meet yous guys some other time, Alan. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I could be dreaming.....
by FEHBP Training Account 4 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

> But I am here at work.. > Having the best dreams lately! > Not B&S related... but I dreamed that David Byrne got back with the > talking heads and I got to see them with the boy that I am mad over- all > totally impossible of course on both counts. > > Ok enough of that, the reason I am posting is I saw the poll. > How can this be? > Electronic Renaissance? > Least favorite? > Oh all of you should be ashamed! > I know you all secretly go home and blast that song ,close the door and > get down! > Mabey not I was just surprised cuzz I love it love it love it!! > > --Aix. > > "You'll be known as the boy who's always dancing..dancing..dancing..." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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