June 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Swearing, it's not big and it's not clever
by stephen hewitt 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Oh god..... Lawrence said: Does anyone else get their mails bounced back to them from one particular listee, telling them the e-mail contained "potentially offensive content" or something? and Mr Smiley said: Every time I post to Sinister I get a message back from a machine saying that my they haven't received my post because of potentially offensive contents It's me isn't it? Does it say "gloscat.ac.uk" in it? I bet it does. Rest assured I do get all of your e-mails (and read every one of them), but apparently there is a log kept of mails sent to me (and everyone else in the college) with rude words in, although what i can do about people sending sweary e-mails i don't know... Anyway VAST apols to you all if you're getting these and I'm being made redundant in nine weeks time (this is a *good* thing, by the way) so it'll stop after that :) Keeping on the swearing theme, if you look at the MTV chat transcript, Mick mentions a documentary he'd been watching, but it is written as do***entary, a similar thing happens with scunthorpe... On the "not releasing singles off albums" theme, we seem to have pretty much drawn a blank, although as Kevan Cooke pointed out to me, "the state that i am in" was on both single and album. Good work, pedantic fellow :) I only mentioned it as it seems to have become almost an article of faith with the band, not to be questioned, yet I can't quite work out why they would stick to it so religiously, especially as they seem to have moved away from four song eps towards three trackers for chart eligibility purposes. I don't have like a serious problem with it, I'm just curious. And those of you who mentioned Led Zep, they don't count cos they didn't release singles *at all* and I don't really think percy and co. are a big influence on the band somehow :) *steve imagines struan, stevie and chris talking about red snappers <shudder> well, i think i'll leave you with that thought :) xoxo CarsmileSteve http://www.egroups.com/group/siniglasto Bodger and Badger are headlining the kids field y'know, "MASHED POTATO" etc +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ooh love is for the broken hearted...
by jarkko frantila 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

MY ALBUMREVIEW Heard the new album and it's great!!! Here's my "step by step"- review of it: *It's My Life* A good stomping beat on the background. The lyrics are good too, especially the part where he sings about living. Hearbreaking stuff. *Say It Isn't So* Nice Weezer-esque song, a brave attemp, but not that special. Good drums! *Thank You For Loving Me* Ballads are what they do best. Nice solo in the middle of the song. It seems to go on and on and on and on and on. *Two Story Town* These boys can RAWK! Production makes this one a definete highlight of the album. *Next 100 Years* A slow song about love, obviously. A grower: first time I heard it I thought it wasn't that good, but now that I've listened to it more I noticed it's a big pile of shit. *Just Older* Another great ballad about getting older. Usually the line "I get older but wiser/ my baby's got the blues" sounds a bit daft, but this time you really can FEEL his agony. Getting old is just something you have to cope with, you know, and, like, live with. *Mystery Train* Love is like a mystery train for some. A ballad, but the lyrics are bound to cause some conversation. It tells a story about this guy who loves this girl, and they spend the night together. But the guy's dad doesn't know that he's spending the night at her place! How can you relate to something like that? *Save The World* A nice ballad. He tells us that whales should be saved and humankind is heading for destruction. He's so right! I like the lines "We need to save our world/ we needn't hurt/ any whales/ 'cause they are good/ and hunting animals is so wrong." Nature is important and a really, really nice thing. *Captain Crash & The Beauty Queen* A great story about a guy who is in love with this girl, but they have a fight and, you know, they are about to break up, but then the guy gives the girl some roses and, like, it all turns out fine in the end. Once again, it's the lyrics that save the song: "I'd give you my bed of roses/ 'cause I'm a cowboy with many steelhorses/ that I ride." *She's A Mystery* Women are hard to please, he seems to say. A good ballad about love. *Got The Girl* A nice ballad, where he confesses that "I've got the girl". And he even loves her very much. *One Wild Night* This ballad is about this one wild night when he drunk too much beer and felt a bit dizzy. But then he drank some coffee and felt better. I could releate to that song sooooo much. *I Could Make A Living Out Of Lovin* A great song, where he sings about "being broken hearted", and then he rhymes that one with "I remember when we just started." Good song! All in all, I'd give this one 8/10. Its not as good as some of his old stuff, but a nice album to listen to when you're feelin' good. And my girlfriend likes it too! FOOTIE Oh hell, I'm not going to watch any more football on telly. Why? Here's why: Belgium- Sweden. Swedes are my favourites. Rats. Turkey- Italy. I've always hated Italy. They always fall down and then cry. And the next minute they are running around the field like rabbits. Damn, they won. Denmark- France. Denmark= underdogs. Hope they'll do well. Oh hell. Czech Rebublic- Holland. Well I like the fotball Dutch play, but they have Edgar Davids and Patrick Kluivert. Two of the most arrogant players in football at the moment. Cocky arses who bitch and moan all the time. Damn. What's the point of taking sides in a game when your team always loses? Btw, I just heard the funniest thing last evening. This guy on Finnish TV said, when asked what his favourite team is: "Well I like England, but since they always drop out of the competition quite early I keep The Dutch as my second choice." @--->---- Jake Le PetitE ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Wrong Girl (and a request for some Eurpoean friendship)
by Lucas Dambergs 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Isn't it strange how music on one day music can just be music - a few words set to a nice tune - and the next it can be like a personal message being beamed directly into your soul? I picked up the new album around the same time that I began to realize that the relationship I was in wasn't going to work out. I still like her, and she still likes me, but we had different ideas about where we wanted the relationship to go, so now we're just going to try to be friends. Anyway, the first time I listend to FYHCYWLAP it just sounded like music to me, but since then it's taken on much greater meaning. It's become much more personal. I know that they aren't really singing about me and my situation, but it's really easy to imagine that they are. And it's nice to have someone around who understands, even if they're only on a CD. Oh, and if you've just broken up with someone, I really don't reccomend listening to Diana Ross albums. Oooh, they can be brutal. In other news, I just found out I got a new job which starts at the beginning of July, so I've decided to go to Europe between now and then to celebrate the remainder of my free time. I've never been outside of North America before (I live in Halifax, Canada), so I really don't quite know what to expect. And I didn't really know where to go, either, so I just got the cheapest tickets I could for the longest time possible. So, I'll be landing in Dusseldorf this coming Thursday (the 15th), and I'm leaving from Munich on the 30th. In between I have vague plans to see some of the following cities: Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Venice, Florence, and Rome. I know I'll probably only make it to a few, but I don't know which ones yet. I also want to spend some time in the countryside in one or more of the countries I visit. So, if you know of any nice places I could go, especially places off the beaten path (either in the country or the city), I would really appreciate hearing from you. Also, if you're interested in meeting me for coffee, or to show me around, I'd love to meet some more list members, and get an insider's view of the places I'll be visiting. If you want to get in touch with me, send me some private mail (I'll be temporarily unsubscribing from the list soon, anyway, so that my mailbox doesn't overflow while I'm away). Thanks, and I'll see you all again in a couple weeks! Lucas Dambergs llat(a)hotmail.com Halifax, Nova Scotia, CANADA "Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain." -Friedrich Schiller, 1759-1805 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: nice day for a sulky picnic
by sophie harris 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

hello beautiful sinisteens, hope sunday has been good to you and bought you icecreams and balloons... just a wee one about next weekend's seaside picnic (brighton, sat. 17th) to say hurray, i'm dead excited about it, and details aaaare... well actually we still haven't picked an exact spot on the beach, so suggestions would be swell, and i'll post more this week as and when... but we have already made designs on salady things (brendon is going for a fennel+celery+pomegranteseeds affair as seen on naked chef - v. pretty... i am thinking lots of little triangle jam sandwiches...) i'm heading down from london if anyone needs directions and that kind of thing... was the edinburgh picanic a beaut? bet it was... well, i had kindof a funny day today (i think sundays always are) - i went to the park for some quiet time looking out at the little lake and stuff, but there was a fete type thing going on - kids with painted faces (which i always think looks a mite odd, specially tigers) and the like... but the sun came out when 'there's too much love' came on my walkman which made me smile...and then a pram went past me, and a little girl poked her head out and grinned and stuck her tongue out at me, so i did the same and we both smirked - aaaw... tres nice all in all. aaaanyways, twill be lovely to see y'all, and kisses blown to those in farflung places... ta ra for now, lots of love and spoonfuls of jam as per xsoph 'so look see the days and the endless coloured ways go play the games that you learned from the morning...' ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: bye for now
by oooon＠mail.cscoms.com 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

hi, i hope you all doing great and everything is allright. something is not allright with me at the moment, namely my computer. it's been very bad for a while and i'm giving up on it for now because i am too busy to get headache over it any more. sorry to those who wrote me, i can't open the bluddy mail program, which leads to no address, therefore no reply. but i will when someone can fix this thing. to justify me writing to the list, i'm saying something about the new album. i know half the list population must have said a lot already. but i can't think of anything else. oh except that there're pirate cd of SInister and The Boy selling here. i saw them with my own eyes and was a bit pleased and not so pleased at the same time. they must be really famous now. or the pirate cd maker has good taste. i also saw Dot Allison cd lying around in heap. which was actually even a bigger surprise. shall i quit my job and become a pirate too? interesting career path. they fly to abroad regularly to buy the music, they told me. sounds good but don't think i can. not the conscience factor, which i dont' really have much. but because what really sells are electronic/dj stuff which i'm not that keen. just imagine having to hear all those noises at high volume repeatedly for a living..ugh speaking of which, i'm excitedly planning a trip to a full moon party. because i'm so sick of my job and i can't find anything else i want to do. so what else to do but participating a full on beach party under the shiny happy full moon. i was told that things might carry on after dawn into the forest! wow, i wonder what about good toilet.and bugs. and probably ghosts. although this time we will definitely bring some holy token and pray regularly. if i can escape my work, that is. what a godawful thing that is. i can't even take leave to go interview for new job. how am i supposed to get any new job if i can't go interview for one. bluddy stupido workpeople. i was going to talk about the new album. i like it ok when i first heard it, thanks to my two guarding angels. the more i listen the more i like it. probably the best they have done if only for "the model" and "there's too much love". right now i can say these two are the best they've ever done and quickly becoming two of my favourite songs in the world. i remember people sometimes say they sound like this that band/bands. if so could someone please tell me who they sound like in this two songs? i'll go and get them and be very grateful. even if i can't read anything for a while i'll still be on the list. and will soon be reading all the posts my mail has stocked up. provided that it doesn't bust into thin air. and after i finished all the previous mails i have stocked in the past. of all the rather big things i have done or being done to lately, one thing is really exciting. i went to the hospital for the first time in my life. as a patient i mean. it was painful, as can be expected. but the important thing is it makes me think about life and reality more. no i didn't have any near death experience or anything like that. i just came out feeling hope to be a better person while there's time. this might be a little odd to say but this new album does echo that feeling somehow. by feeling, i'm not talking about the lyrics. i have not much idea what the songs sing about, only some obvious words. but the overall sound of it. what's also odd is there're a lot of nurses in my room at the hospital. at one point there must be at least fifteen of them. i wasn't that ill and didn't need that many nurses. i didn't ask because i was sleepy most of the time. i put this album together with how it was like being ill (and inevitably, nurses) and being well again. um by now i've lost the plot. whatever it was i was going to say you' ll luckily not going to read it. have fun eveyone. love, oon xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "look at me I'm on TV" - NO YOU'RE NOT! - NOT IN THIS DAMN COUNTRY, ANYWAY!
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

Firstly, thanks for all the nice e-mails people sent me in response to my big long post about "The Chalet Lines" the other day, and also for no one sending me nasty e-mails calling me insensitive etc. ***I HATE TELEVISION NEW ZEALAND*** Let me start with a rant. I stayed in especially to watch TOTP yesterday. They play it here, a week late, and I spent all day being really exicted about seeing Belle & Sebastian as a moving image for three minutes. Anyway, along it comes and I sit there practically shivering with excitement. And they don't play "Legal Man". You see (and correct me if I'm wrong ...) I believe BBC progrmas are half an hour long. In New Zealand, we have commercials on every channel, so a half hour show is often cut down to 22 minutes. And of course they wouldn't dream of cutting out S Club 7 or Billie ... so .... out goes the onscure indie band no one here cares about.They did the same thing last year when B&S won the best newcomer award at The Brit awards. Clip ... out it went, and two hours of my telly watching time were completely wasted. Again ... let me plead with you. If ANYONE has any B&S stuff on video, who can copy it for me, I would be so very very grateful. I have a three hour Smioths extravaganza, or some Orange Juice/Go-Betweens live video footage if that would make the deal any sweeter. But please, please please someone ... help me out. ***THE NEW ALBUM*** Really growing to love it. A few people have said it is over produced. I disagree, and the more I listen to it the more I think this is the way B&S have always *wanted* to sound. To these ears the whole album is glorious soul music. One thing I have noticed ... and I don't know if anyone else has thought about it .. is that the piano/keyboard-based songs really remind me of the music in the television specials of "Peanusts" cartoons. That kind of funky honky-tonk piano could really fit into the soundtrack of "It's the Easter Beagle, Charlie Brown". Or am I just going crazy? Try listening to the "Legal Man" single now ... isn't it amazing how COMPLETELY DIFFERENT it is to everything on the album? Hope there is a new single soon ... I hate the thought that that might be it for the next two years. ***HOLIDAY*** My girlfriend and I went away for the weekend, because I was going to have a nervous breakdown otherwise. Anyway, while wandering around Rotorua (geothermal area in the middle of New Zealand's North Island, and dodgy tourist trap) she stopped to look in the window of a chemist shop. And looked and looked, her face growing more and more surprised. I went back to see what she was staring at. With an expression of complete shocjk she said "look ..." and pointed to the window display. There in the window of the shop was a gigantic vibrator in bright yellow plastic, shaped like "corn on the cobb". Not all that funny in itself ... I'm not the kinda kid who giggles at this sort of thig. What was so funny was the display itself. As I looked at the window display I saw literally dozens and dozens of strange looking sex toys, culminating in a huge white plastic .44 Magnum with the shaft shaped like a penis. Every single one, however, hafd a little tag obscuring the label, saying something about how they were "body massagers" and where great for "easying away tension" or something equally euphamisitic. You have to understand this was esentially a small town chemist ... these toys were wedged in between hair rollers, foot spas and sports supports. The whole display had a sad, hick-town, slightly neglected look about it .. the packages were faded from the sun, and the handwrittentags were filled with spelling mistakes. I could just imagine my grandmother going in and actually thinking they *were* massagers, and showing me how great it was. (Shudder). A strange, surreal experience. ***B&S DREAM*** My second one. Well, sort of a B&S dream. I dreamt I was at a party and Isobel was DJing. I asked her to play "Consolation Prize" by Orange Juice, and she got really excited because she didn't know many people who liked them. Then the dream kinda digressed (my dreams are never particularly linear) and somehow I ended up on a very small German sub, fighting an army of Nazi's who had been shrunk to quarter size for some reason. And obviously it was all downhill from here. ***OFFENSIVE CONTENT*** Does anyone else get their mails bounced back to them from one particular listee, telling them the e-mail contained "potentially offensive content" or something? Does this REALLY bug you? It sure as hell bugs me. That kid must only get about a quarter of mails, as I know it filters out the work "sex" along with anything even vaguely sweary. I mean, really .... it'ds not like this a porn mailing list. As I write this I am listening to "Station to Station" by David Bowie. One of his best, but neglected albums. I'm having abit of a Bowie revival. He's ace. Thanks also to all the people who mailed me about Hefner. I ordered "The Fidelity Wars" and it is brilliant. I can't stop listening to it. Oh ... the people I've promised mix tapes. I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN. I just have a mammoth backlog to clear. Sorry, but I WILL do it, promise. Well, that's it for me this week ... have a nice week, kids. Now we have a new album to soundrtrack our lives to. Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: you make me smile!
by adam apparatus 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

From: Self <Single-user mode> To: lizzie Subject: you make me smile! Send reply to: aconover(a)optonline.net Date sent: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:17:16 -0400 dear, that sounds like a song lyric, but it's not. i was reading your webpage, and it made me smile, and it sounded like something nice to say. and it's true, too. so. first off, i promise not to complain that your page hurts my eyes. that out of the way, raffe's a cutie! i was also going to make an itemized list of things on your survey that i wanted to comment on, but now i realize that's they're not important enough. we haven't been talking! this bothers me. everyone else is at least making some time to hang out with their proms dates, you know. on top of which i miss you. i was a little worried about the whole prom thing, about it being really akward. but i'm not worried about that anymore, because i've decided it's not going to be. so in case you were worried too, you don't need to be. ;) i did nick as my poet presentation for ap english... but it was really hot and i flopsweated and no one was paying attention. it went really badly. the teacher just looked at me funny. i was trying to explain how all his songs were about his life and all... and tried to make the link between "road" and "pink moon" with the moon motif, and pointed out the radical change in guitar style in "know"... but no one seemed to care. then i had to split to play improv games. sigh. this summer i will hopefully be installing e-mail programs on every single computer at suffolk community college for $9.25 an hour. hopefully. maybe not, yet, they will have to tell me. anyway, the money's all for college of course, which is why i can stand it -- i'm counting the days. of course, first i'm going to buy a stereo with a turntable, so i can listen to "the all-girl summer fun band" single i'm about to order, along with fishyclap. i haven't had the money, because of prom and all... i still need to figure out the rides for that. noah totalled his car, so that might not be an option. i (we) seem to have gotten left out of everyone's plans. sigh. there might be room in lindsay's limo, but she's not sure. i went to my friend emily's prom last night, and no one did anything especially exciting afterwards... we just slept in the limo at the beach while everyone else got drunk. it was a little silly. then i forgot to tip the limo driver, and i was the last one out! it was terrible. oh, that was the other thing i wanted to say... your summer reading! it's so much harder than mine! we just did great expectations and jane eyre and pride and prejudice and the bluest eye... but you're doing -tolstoy-! (it is tolstoy, right?) scary stuff. and tess... and three others? wow, that's heavy. good luck, dear.. ok, i've had enough rambling for now. if i don't hear from you i'll just send out another one, because it's nice to chatter away. i enjoyed it. so thanks. love you, adam aconover(a)optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Wrong Girl video
by === 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

Just a notice to say that the video for "The Wrong Girl" may debut in the US on MTV's 120 Minutes Sunday night, if I understand correctly. It should begin rotation on M2 as well, and hopefully air a few more times on 120 during the next few weeks. We shot the video in Glasgow in March, with everyone chipping in to help Stevie realise his masterplan. It's basically a humorous take on his life and romantic disasters with various wrong girls over the years. We had a blast shooting it, and hopefully it will come across well to the viewers. As Kin Woo pointed out in previous posts, Norman Blake of Teenage Fanclub was a great sport and played Stevie's dad, and as David Moore noted we crammed Dylan references in to the video as well. I believe the video is available online (I don't have the URL) but to see it in all it's intended majesty try MTV in the US around midnight this coming Sunday. Take care, Lance Bangs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sweet isobel?
by kaytee 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

hello sinister, You know, even though there's a lot of bands I like, there are about two that I listen to all the time. People have been talking about lyrics versus music... for me the important thing is the *way* the singer sings what they sing (combined with the music of course). It's all about the personality that comes through, and about feeling sure that the music is tapping into something true and beautiful even if you can't quite pin it down. Or as Nick said: >Although I can't quite follow 'The Model' either, I'm convinced in that >song that Stuart knows exactly what he's on about... The kind of lyrics I >can't really interpret at all and yet which make perfect sense all the >same. Stuart's personality obviously shines through, both in his songs and in what we've seen of the 'real life' him, and even if he makes mistakes now and then he really has nothing to worry about as his intelligence and loveliness seem so unshakeable (by the way does anyone else think we're lacking a word for when you want to describe someone who's just great... 'nice' is meaningless, 'cool' could just mean they're trendy, 'sound' perhaps comes closest but is kind of naff? anyway). And on the basis of this I can see why people have problems with Isobel - she's more of a central presence than, say, Sarah, and so her personality and style become an issue... and compared to Stuart she's kind of hard to interpret. And I would have expected myself to be wary of her, or maybe even to dislike her. But I think I do like her. The reason I've been moved to write this is because I saw that 'The Gate' had nil points on Sam's vote thing, and to me this song (and 'Is it Wicked Not to Care', and some - not all, but some - of the Gentle Waves songs) have that same elusive hidden meaning/beauty (lack of a word again) as some of Stuart's - more to me than a song like 'Slow Graffiti', although I know many people like this a lot so of course it's all down to personal preference. She gets it wrong sometimes but I do think sometimes she gets it very right. As for 'Family Tree', Nick (again) said something about "astonishingly asinine" and "guilty pleasure"... why do you feel guilty Nick?! Don't forget it's in character... and while Stuart's disenchanted schoolgirls usually speak more knowingly through Stuart in the third person, maybe this time he thought it would be fun to write something in a more simplistic style for Isobel to sing in the first person. But anyway you shouldn't listen to anything I say about hidden meanings - I have to admit I didn't realise 'Ease Your Feet in the Sea' was about suicide. kaytee x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: struan in SF? fishyclapimpressions
by Ian Connelly 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

so, a little bird's been whistling sweet nothin's in my ear, about stuart m and isobel being in san francisco this week. hmmmm, i wonder if it's true...are they checking out places to play when they come here? let's hope they can see their way clear to playing Noe Valley ministry, or maybe that wonderful, tiny building at 50 Oak street instead of multiple nights at Great American or the abysmal Fillmore. here's hoping (he said, again, wistfully.) & here's hoping i'll run into them at the Aislers Set record release party tonight. i know it'd be terrible if all 1,500 of us posted simultaneous reviews of the new record, so i'll only say a bit about it. when i first heard 'sinister' out of my housemate's bedroom back in the halcyon days of '97, i hated it. 'who's the morrissey imitator?' i'd chide him, silently, loading up my cd changer with codeine, clikitat ikatowi, and the vss. but after a week i was smitten, and i'd creep up into the living room and sing along with the chorus of 'sinister'...even as he did the same thing... and i think this is the way i feel about fishyclap; at first i was a bit bewildered, and now it's grown on me - an achey itch that'd take nasty antibiotics to cure. and i don't want that cure. you can't go back, y'know, to the first time you'd ever met someone you loved, and feel the same first warm blush of longing - you'll always love them remembering everything that's led up to Right Now... it's not possible to hear this record w/o comparing it to everything else that came before..and i think it's an amazing bunch of songs on its own or otherwise. if FYHC.. was their first record we'd be falling all over ourselves, with just cause. so i'll go, now, feeling pretty sure i've said worse than messrs cassarotto & co. anyone up for a san francisco picnic? it's positively not quite summer yet, but if you're outside at noon you can really feel it trying. ian c +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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