June 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Twins? Nuh-uh.
by kittenmouse radio 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

Hello, That is, no, not twins, and not a mirror. Photoshop, anyone? Cut and paste? That is what I think, anyway. I love the album. Matador. Ugh. So slow. We didn't get the album at the college radio station I work at until the day AFTER it was released worldwide. What's up with that? (Rhetorical question, by the way). -Andrea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the ramblings of a middle class school kid
by sophie watkinson 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

hoho. ahoy. yes: i've been watching childrens t.v. again. has anybody else seen it. a load of plasticine things that go around on a pirate ship saying; ohho. ahoy. ho ho ho, ahoy. god it's boring. but it was that or more binomial distributions and compound angle revision. needless to say i chose mindless plasticine pirates. i had my last english exam today, which is good because it means i never have to "textually analyse" a book again in my life, i can just get on with *reading* and *enjoying* them. but it was also bad because it was the worse exam i've ever done in my life. everyone expects A's and they all think english is so *easy*. goddamit, i think i've just failed and everyone will be so disappointed. and you lot don't help do you. going on about fishyclap and i haven't even got it yet because i've had exams all week. but all is not lost: i get to see alfie on firday night in leeds. is anyone from here going btw? i can't wait for that because i haven't been out for ages what with exams and all. hopefully should be going on somewhere else after if my mates can stretch to it. its a shame because they don't finish their exams this week like i do, so until they do i'll have to party on my own. no change there then. i went to a party last week actually, my only night out in months. i got so excited by the prospect of *actual human company* that after i'd finished my bottle of wine, which generally gets me *nicely drunk but not hungover*, i went on to demolish my mates vodka and his beer. needless to say an hour later i was lying on the bathroom floor moaning and spewing. i was so ashamed, i haven't done that for at least...oohhh, three months. my dad offered to buy me some clothes, which was very generous of him. so i sent off for a bus t shirt. i always wanted one but funds could never stretch. can't wait to get it and wear it *all* the time. theres a lot of people who would recognise it round here suprisingly enough. in the past two months me and my friend have been on a mission. by buying lots of C90's and spending valuable revision time writing sleeve notes for various b&s masterpieces i think we've converted about 6 close friends. ok, maybe not converted, but they all seem pleasantly suprised and a couple trotted off the buy eps, albums etc. so maybe i'm not doomed to an eternity of loneliness. the real reason i did it, actually, is because it's my 18th soon and for my party im gonna make sure the dj plays loads of b&s. give him all my cds and what not. so i didn't want to be bopping along all on me tod. kay. sorry if this rambles. you know how it goes. us skool kidz always have far too much time on our hands. love sophie xox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A thousand saturday plans being hatched to drink and b e senseless
by Alder, Lucy 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

Hello lovelies The Met Office's ever-reliable (ahem) 5-day forecast at http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec3/sec3.html currently says that Edinburgh will have a sun peeking out from behind a cloud on Saturday, which is spookily exactly the same forecast it gave for London picnic. Considering what a top time I had at that one, I'd say that it all bodes rather well for this weekend. I'm not touching that poison you like to call Buckfast though. No! No! Keep it away from me! I've heard about the effects it has on people and by all accounts it ain't pretty. Even less pretty is the state of my bedroom in Harringay this morning. After an impromptu night of slightly drunken but extremely earnest discussion of albums old and new, as well as not one, not two but three! games of consequences, I woke up this morning to find my sheets were covered in bits of chocolate, red wine and silver pen. Every single I've ever bought now adorns my bedroom floor (apart from Everything I Do (I Do It For You) by Bryan Adams, which I trod on a couple of weeks ago and had to throw away, darnit). I blame that Lixi bird. She's a messy slattern. She's not responsible for my nail varnish collection being slightly depleted though. I suspect the blame for that lies with Mark "Champagne Everlovin' Faggy But Nice" Casarotto, who might have tried to give himself a manicure. If you see him picking at bits of glittery stuff on his fingers, you'll know why. Does anyone know any girls who talk about their 'time'? I don't. ///alexander, who writes his name a bit like ||| baxendale ||||||||||||| said >>Noticed that the girl on the cover is holding a book called "I fought in a war". This may be a well-known book, but I haven't heard of it. Someone of you have probably read it. I've never heard of a book called I Fought In A War either and nor has Amazon and Amazon knows everything, doesn't she? The best she could come up with was A Blood-Dimmed Tide: The Battle Of The Bulge By The Men Who Fought It. So, anyway, I think somebody might have magicked up the picture on the cover with the help of one of those newfangled computing machines. But then I know sod all about anything. Right, anyway, I'm going out for a while. I'll be back later, but I'm not sure quite when. Juicy Lucy -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I Yacht In A War...
by David White 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

Greetings, Can't help thinking that 'I Fought In A War' sounds like an old Duran Duran song, was it called Ordinary World? (goes something like, "I won't cry for yesterday, in an ordinary world, somehow i will survive") Can we expect the next video to be shot on a yacht in the Med featuring a frilly shirted Stuart M? (shit this knowledge of crap old music scares me). As for the album, after a few more listens I've decided I like it a lot. Fave tracks: erm, probably easier to list my least favourite ones cos I like most of them. Woman's Realm is probably the biggest surprise cos most reviews of the album said it was the weakest track (which it's certainly not). Least favourite tracks: Beyond The Sunrise, it might be a slow burner but it's a bit too strange at the moment (sounds vaguely like the song U2 did with Johnny Cash on Zooropa) and The Chalet Lines, I appreciate the sentiment and it's got very powerful lyrics (listen to it through headphones if you have any doubts, Stuart says fuck at least twice!), but it's a bit too depressing (amusing to note that the wonderful NME (spot the irony folks!) said that this was "a minimal, brittle sketch of half-forgotten romance." Hmmm think they might have failed to listen to it properly somehow!) As for the the rest of the album, I'm considering rationing myself to one listen a day so that I don't get sick of hearing it (perish the thought!) cos there's nothing worse than hearing something too often. BTW If there is a video for 'Wrong Girl' does this mean it's going to be the next single? Hope not, I want another EP with brand new songs, I'm willing to wait a couple of months for it though! Anyway enough of this gubbins, Dave Visit the new look, greatly improved www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk for all your B&S needs! david(a)djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Proprietary Binary Format
by David Howie 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

The Woman Who Walks Into Doors Joseph couldn't find his Giro, all faked names an' grubby Biro, yesterday. Mary said that she's prepared to hide it anywhere he won't look, anyway. The cue's too long anyhow, too long to wait an hour in. For a life dispensed by a man in specs, a man in specs and incontinence pants. What do you do when you're in love with someone who you don't love anymore? He's protected by the law, he's got a cruel black heart that you know will never thaw. An accidental birth, with a monumental girth. He'd hit her then proclaim she was the woman who walked into doors. She walks into doors, Walks into doors, Walks into doors, The law's on his side. Pregnant 4 times an' still no child, 'cos little coffin follows little coffin, boy. You've made a corpse of your own child, Jo, yes you must be such a proud father, now. A metaphorical joiner, who was always hanging doors. It's the drunk doors you've got to watch, yes you've got to watch for their blind rage. She's walked into doors, She walks into doors, She'll walk into doors, In the name of Love! Him o'er there, in the corner: David. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Plastic soul man, plastic soul
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

Never got round to pulling this into any kind of coherent whole, but for anyone who's interested... 'I fought in a war' is the best possible way to start the album. A song to make you stare blankly at the wall and feel like something important is happening. I'm so glad it's not whimsical like previous unaccompanied breathy-vocal album openers, as it immediately marks the album out as different; the superficial similarity drawing attention to a change of focus in a more interesting way than if, say, it had started with a blast of feedback. The ambiguous, melancholic tone of the lyric seems to set the agenda for a darker things to come. To me, the failure of the album is in failing to fulfil this promise. Oh, and Thank you Katy, for making me unable to get Duran Duran's 'Ordinary World' out of my head whenever I listen to it now. 'The Model'. *Sigh*. So many words, such wonderful words, with all those lyrical and musical twists and turns. I'll miss it if he never writes songs like this again. The kind of lyrics I can't really interpret at all and yet which make perfect sense all the same. And the harpischord is just fantastic. Chris is the real star of this album, I think. I'd love to meet the people who like 'Beyond the Sunrise' They must be totally mad and it's always fun to meet mad people. Unless you think they're going to threaten you with violence in which case it's just mildly diverting. What on earth is the point of this track? Its ponderous style and the strained vocals just don't fit on the album and the whole thing just seems like a horrendously stylised experiment that should never ever have been included. Everyone likes Sarah, as someone said. 'Waiting for the moon to rise' is glorious. It's more than just pretty. Unlike some of the songs, the orchestration doesn't seem at all forced. The whole thing glides along wonderfully, evoking a mood I can't put a name to. Lines like "Cause in my dreams the things I'm wishing for keep coming true" could be banal in a different context but they just sound heartbreaking lovely here. Would have sounded great as the penultimate track, but you can't have everything. I suppose 'Don't Leave The Light On Baby' is the heart of the album. The defining sound of Stuart getting less wordy and more soulful. "My baby called me up to say Don't call me love. Don't call me / That's not all she said." That gets me ever time. Aside from that he lyrics are a *little* too under-written for this to be the way that I would want the band to go full-time, but I shouldn't be churlish. It's a great track. Hmm... I have real problems with 'The Chalet Lines'. It's like a trial you have to go through each time you hear the album. Does it really tell us anything about rape? It just seems to be a succession of cliches about the way women who have been raped feel in its aftermath. If it were a woman singing about it from personal experience, then maybe it would different, but Sensitive Stan as Stuart is, I just don't think it serves any purpose, which to my mind makes it gratutitous. No doubt it's better read as a personal evocation of his own feelings, but I just end up resenting it for being so... boring. I don't feel the emotion that someone else remarked upon at all. At least it's short. 'Woman's Realm' annoys me. To me it really sounds like "Here's the obligatory B&S rave up". It's *OK*, but something of a lower-grade retread of 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' and 'Dirty Dream Number Two'. The lyrics don't really grab me at all. I keep trying to listen to them properly, but they just seem so underwritten and reliant on B&S-speak, not telling any kind of coherent story. Although I can't quite follow 'The Model' either, I'm convinced in that song that Stuart knows exactly what he's on about. He seems to be coasting on this one. To make it worse, the string arrangements and organ line just seem uninspired and overdone, as they're desperately trying to compensate for the lyric's lack of direction. Isobel's verses brighten things a little, but not enough. I'm honestly mystified by 'Family Tree'. The lyric is so *astonishingly* asinine that I actually get a guilty pleasure from the whole thing. When it gets the final lines in which Isobel asserts that she's not here to fool around by having babies or becoming an accountant, the whole thing takes on an air of nonsensical menace that's somehow hard to resist. Quite what she's saying she *is* here to do is never quite explained. Maybe I'm being sexist - the male rebel without a cause is an enduringly romantic figure. "We took chemistry, biology and maths / I want poetry, music and some laughs". Jesus. And it's written by Stuart. Is he trying to make her look stupid? I can't believe he is. In which case I have to fall back on the theory that he's just a bit of a nutter. Pretty arrangement though. 'There's Too Much Love'. I can hardly believe that at first I thought of this a bit like I thought of 'Woman's Realm' . Now I think it's the most successful example on the album of the sound the band have attempted to develop. Done differently, the lyrics might have fitted a much more minor track, but as it is they make up a curious kind of personal anthem that hits all the right places. Who said he can't sing? It doesn't just end the album on the right note musically; it also has the feel of a closing track that's the last word on all that's gone before. The con is that to my mind what's gone before *doesn't* actually lead up to this at all. The first and last songs frame an album that was never recorded. Don't get me wrong, it's wonderful to hear these new songs after so long. Some of them are going round and round my head. *But* even more than TBWTAS, I don't think they hang together as an album. With the first two albums, the songs fitted together perfectly in a completely organic way. Now that there's so much collaboration and stylistic variety (and the songs are generally much less folksy, more structured and considered ) the sequencing of their albums has become really important. The band don't seem to have come to terms with this. Maybe if the album were longer then it would be easier to accept it as a kind of sprawling treasure trove, but at 40 mins, it seems like it's over before it's really got going. For what it's worth, I think the whole thing works better with the running order I came up with: 1. I Fought In A War 2. The Model 3. The Wrong Girl 4. Family Tree 5. Woman's Realm 6. Beyond The Sunrise 7. Don't Leave The Light On Baby 8. The Chalet Lines 9. Nice Day For A Sulk 10. Waiting For The Moon To Rise 11. There's Too Much Love Still got that awkward 'Chalet Lines' - 'Nice Day for a Sulk / the girl smells of milk' segue, but what *do* you follow a song about rape with? That's all... Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:41:59 -0400
by FEHBP Training Account 4 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

Sorry all, just wanted to say I found a home for the tee. thanks .alix +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: IT'S ALL A BUNCH OF TREE-HUGGING HIPPIE CRAP!!!!!!
by zoe charaktinou 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

hi everyone!it's a lovely day indeed,isn't it? the sun is shining,the birdies are singing away,everyone's happy.... AND I HAVE HAD ONLY 3 HOURS OF SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes yes i had a feckin' media studies exam this morning.i went to bed 6am and i was up bright and breezy(not) at 9. i studied for 1 day only because this is my last week for now in this sunny ol' tropical place...yes,i'm going home for 3 months... i'm leaving the kingdom on sunday.and i still haven't bought the album.skint.anyway no one really cares.i'm just tired and i have another exam and i have to pack all my things today and i want to kill everyone. i love u all by the way. bye. zo... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Rumors of early peasants
by MacAllister, Bonnie 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

As I sit here in my office, the carpenters are drilling upstairs renovating the Modern and Contemporary Galleries so there is this hideous shaking, and I feel as if I am inhabiting a fault line. There is nothing better for a migraine than a ceiling of jackhammers. Since my concentration is severely suffering, I apologize if I make this post short. On Friday night, my boyfriend and I were early for an improv show at the Brick Playhouse so we wandered into Repo Records, and I found in their "Rock Vinyl" section, an advance copy of FYHCYWLAP! Needless to say, I nearly shrieked with joy. I was just wondering if the vinyl is any different than the CD? I am always tempted to purchase vinyl--it's such an addiction. On Sunday, I was down in the South Street area and I ended up back in Repo. (I usually go to Spaceboy for new vinyl but it seems that they have a lot less vinyl now). Anyway, when I walked into Repo, they had a sign that said something to the extent of "and rumored to be coming" Belle & Sebastian FYHCYWLAP when I had just purchased that copy days earlier. This was strange and I felt so ridiculously lucky. So did any other Philadelphia listees encounter this same phenomenon? Take care, Bonnie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Twin Thing
by Kerr, David 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

Good Day to all in Sinister Land I've noticed that in a few of the mails today there has been a slight discussion about the new album cover. Is it a mirror? Or Are they twins? Well with my high level of intelligence >Laughs out loud to receive strange looks from colleagues in the office< and intellect >Another big chuckle< I would say that they are definitely twins. For starters one of the girls has their mouth open. Also if you look closely at the two books one of them is open slightly at the corner where the other one is not (I think). And another thing. One of the girls has slightly longer hair than the other one and it also seems to be sitting differently. The books are also sitting at a completely different angle from each other. I'm probably wrong about everything I have written above. The alcohol is probably still in my system from last night. But at least I have posted to the list again which now brings my tally to three posts in three days. WooHoo!! I'm on a roll. Anyhoo........... I'll get out of everybody's' hair and let someone send in a real post instead of this childish nonsense. Peace Out Davie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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