August 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: you dug the roadside blur
by Robyn Fadden 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

mmermmeraherahmeryar, so sinister... *so*... you know when your life revolves around a theme? like say rollerderby or shoe shopping or ilk. it may be brief, but it's kind of centring. and then you go for long periods, perhaps years/half-decades, of themelessness. lack of ness. or a chaotic ness of themes that won't stick. mm, well, yes. can't quite seem to shake the want for theme. sometimes tone just doesn't quite cut it. and tone tends to wander. which screws up theme, of course... abstractions, agh and sorry, but the only concrete thing i can give is the intersection of main and hastings at dusk on a monday night where wandering junkies sort of group and ungroup like kaleidescope rocks, which assumes something bigger moves them, such as need or theme, towards a $200-a-day habit, something quite easy to understand really if given the chance. <shakes head etch-a-sketch style> ... i've moved to a new neighbourhood. i like it. but the transition from west-side lawns and well-bred dogs, SUV4WD-and-assorted-merchandise splendor to east-side, well, melange remains jarring. what a few blocks and a new bus route can do... and living alone, oh yes. so this and now having nick drake and 69 love songs (a theme? more than! it seems on this list lately) and seeing too much cable tv on the weekend have caused something in me. ech, causing (i joke.) (what? the universe! i...) is there a cure for being overwhelmed? essential oils? yoga? a massive russian novel? subprotomicrobial shock therapy? hmm? i saw a film called "Judy Berlin" last night. it is a very good and sincere and non-sarcastic story about the suburbs. well, more than the suburbs, but that is where it is set (new york city suburbs that is. different from california suburbs or toronto suburbs or london suburbs, but regardless, still "outside 'action central'") it's a wonderful film with beautiful cinematography (and in black and white even, so it feels simultaneously twilight zone/hitchcock/cary grant comedy/citizen kane/hal hartley even...) and some damn good writing and acting. canada: now has its own version of "who wants to be a millionaire". it's all over the news. it's crazy. it's bound to surpass anne of green gables and degrassi in national popularity... i feel so on edge. i do. i know nothing of this whole eating beaver business (and what jokes?). i believe it is illegal. get cher brit-ish tea-swillin' colonizin' a'r'ses offa my prop-erty! (watch out, they'll be feasting on eagle soon...) oh my. i really do think it's possible to understand completely and not understand at all at the same time. i do. for a lot of things. (one currently being the 'big brother'-type show. i... i just.) more stability in tone next time, r y o n b . ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden(a)yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: As clean as a packet of chocolate treats
by ian nicolson 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Steven Kado stammerred> > the other thing is that this friend has 7 other > housemates (its a large house) and one of them is a > big metal head. which I found incredibly intriguing until I realised he meant that he liked big loud music. I mean, what could a huge head made of metal do to pay the rent? maybe pose in a museum, I guess, but there can't be too many job opportunities these days. Not since Moses banned false gods n'all that. I stayed up to watch 'The Acid House' last night, cause Sinister told me (I always do what I'm told) which, despite coming from Edinburgh, I'd never seen before. I've never seen 'Trainspotting' all the way through either - I guess the Chemical Generation kinda passed me by. But we're all like that up here, you know. There's nothing I like better at the weekends to go down the pub for a 'swally' then maybe a shot on the 'puggie' and, if everything goes well, round off the evening with a jolly good 'swedge'. ye cannae beat it. likesay. ken. ya radge. So, yeh, despite the biggest arts festival in the whole wide world (is this actually true? or is it just something that Edinburgh people like to believe?) taking place on my doorstep (literally - there was a troop of Albanian midget ballet dancers doing 'Swan Lake' out there this morning) I'm sitting in watching films on TV of an evening. But I'm just too lazy to file through the hundreds of programmes, leaflets, supplements, etc to see if there's anything worth going to. So has anyone seen anything good? Or, indeed, going to see anything which might be good? Let me know. Actually, I did go to see the wonderful Neil Ashford at the Tron last week as part of the Acoustic Underground thing. I believe he's playing there again on the 24th, so if you're in Edinburgh for the festival, or indeed if you're an Edinburgh denizen yourself, you really could do a lot worse than to pop along. Some local hack (can't remember who...) compared him to Stuart Murdoch and Thom Yorke. And to a cup of coffee, for that matter. He's a bit Sodastream-y or even Nick Drake-y, I think. Which is good. They tell me the Queen Mother had a birthday last week. Can't believe I missed it (irony), but I found out today that a celebration CD had been released. Why have no reviews been posted to the list yet? I can only imagine that there'd be a fair number of you queing up overnight for that one. I wonder if she sings on it... luv etc. ian n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Canada Wouters
by P F 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Police sirens flash by somewhere. We seem to be in for a bit of a spell, as they used to say in 'Porridge'. Steady Mik' swallowed (properly): >>There have been mumblings about the Decline Of Belle and Sebastian. [...] >>If we scale up these little barrels of fructive goodness to, say, the approximate size and complexity of a Scottish pop band, we see the gap between Lithe and Frowsy expands to, ooh, about four years. I don't think that he was saying that Bananas & Sebastopol (Road) had declined. I *think* he was saying, in a clever and witty way (which I've just deleted from this account), that people's perceptions inevitably change and weary, in an unfortunate fashion that can't be helped. But you know, now I'm not so sure. Maybe he really *was* jumping on the rag-and-bone wagon of 'decline'. His 'model' (incomplete) seems to imply a change in the object itself rather than just in some external perception of it. You see, you start trying to reply to one of these things and, after 20 seconds, you're no longer sure what it was actually saying in the first place. It's like taking a bounce on the iterated flip-board of uncertainty. Under seashell clouds and gilded sun I went to a quiz yesterday, in Quebec, SE London. The Belmondoes fought the Sebergs to a tie-break with serves, volleys, headers, backhands, bungs, lobs, blobs, aces, jacks, straws, tic-tac toe, tic-tacs, iron maces, mace, Macy's, JC Penney, Woolworth, Woolco, Wilco (hence 'Dreddie'), banana kicks, avocado shakes, strawberry switchblades, orange crushes, pear shapes, partridge families, five gold rings, girls from Ipanema, Girl Talk, cherry bombs, sherbert dips, EMF records, Sandrine stones, UK CDs, Brazilian mistakes, aisler diagrams, Venn setts, badgers' houses, necking swallows, Santangelis faults, seconds alight, the sweetest punches, left hooks, right cheeks, middle distances, long shots, short order cooks, 96 tears, ring roads, black orchids, Flakey almond slices, the bride's trousseau, fifer's lanes, les bouts de souffle, paris kisses, glasgow smiles, london eyes and ears of (sweet)corn, with tuna. Cuba and Argentina were involved. It was high noon in Iceland. As the two teams staggered to their feet one last time, DJ Michael Wood of the LRB played 'Paradise City', and the tie-break question was announced: which is the best Belle and Sebastian ep? Stevie T saw his chance and took it. 'This Is Just A Modern Rock Song', he yelled, as Popkins leapt across the table in slow locomotion to try to stop the catastrophe. It was too late. Les belles Sebergs correctly announced the winner as '3...6...9', and the grand prix was theirs. We had to be content with 'Bandwagonesque'. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ooh a second post
by cbrown2＠mmm.com 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Hello again everyone, I've remembered what I wanted to ask before, this is mainly for London peeps too so most of you may as well press delete now. I want to go to a decent pub with good music in London tomorrow night, and I've run out of inspiration, unfortunately Cafe Kick is out of bounds as one of our friends is entertaining a young lady there and wants no "interference" Anyone got any ideas?? Sorry for the blatant abuse Chris PS thanks to everyone who helped out with the secret goldfish, it's much appreciated +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Trembling Blue Fairy Wings
by Ian Hatcher 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Helloooo, Welcome to one of my infrequent posts (fear not, for I shall soon be returning to the shadows of lurkerdom). How good are the Go Betweens? Of course, this is a rhetorical question, since all and sundry know that the Go Betweens are, in fact, awesome. I can't believe some people say the 80s were poo, when you had the Go Betweens, Felt, the Smiths, the Roses (admittedly right at the end but it helps me win these 'the 80s weren't poo they were lovely' arguments that I sometimes have with myself) and even better, Dogtanion and the Three Muskahounds. Ooh, and the A-Team. Another thing (before I forget), did anyone happen to be at the Tompaulin/Trembling Blue Stars Borderline gig the other night?? They were both fantastic (just to rub salt into the wounds of those unlucky enough not to go - ha!!), and if the artist formerly known as Erica is reading this (or indeed is still on the list), please can you get in touch with me. Well, you don't have to, cos if you got my last e-mail then I'll just be repeating myself, but in case you didn't then I owe you for introducing me to the Field Mice and the Blue Stars and want to repay my debt of gratitude* I *promise* there'll be B&S content in a minute, honest Honey. Fairy wings are good aren't they? I think everyone should be forced to wear fairy wings by law (well, all girls, but I s'pose boys could as well if they wanted). But then maybe it wouldn't be quite as good . . . hmmmm. Nevermind. My B&S type point is this: who's the best character in Winnie the Pooh? Ha ha, I fooled you all. And the answer, of course, is Eeyore, that King of Sarcasm. Oh, great King, how I bow down to your might. The real point I was going to make about B&S was actually quite good, but I've forgotten it now (too busy thinking about the Tigger Movie) so I'll retreat hastily back into the shadows before our beloved List Mummy takes away my sweets (well, shouts at me anyway. I'm sure Honey wouldn't still candy from anyone, maybe not even babies). Byeeeee, Ian. *Look how much of a dodgy perv I manage to sound without actually meaning it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: TOAST - As far as the eye can see.
by vibrosheep＠junglemail.net 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Alisdair, bless his northern, regularly darned, never been outside the big city, cotton socks enquired : >Or even, if I were trying to really antagonise the old man, I might >propose 'Near Wild Devon'. Although he might (with any luck) have no >idea what I was talking about and I would be excused a beating. And >having never been to fairest Sidmouth I cannot say that 'wild' could >not be further from the truth. I have absolutely no idea. Enlighten >me. When staring out to sea, what does one see? Africa or South >America? Sidmouth is, we don't like to admit it, but is part of the wild-wild-west. If you love women who don't shave their legs, preferrably in their mid-nineties, with cream-tea moustaches and, much to the delight of young Sarah the Red, smell of wee - then Sidmouth is your destination. When on Sidmouth sea-front you will see much the same as if you were living in more civilised areas of the South as Bognor - ROCKS. Loads and loads of the fuckers. When you actually climb over the rocks, much to everyones suprise, there is no sea. It's all a myth to get tourists there. There's actually a 3/4 completed motorway with a little chef - not the restaraunt, a little bloke in a white hat playing marbles with land adjusted dolphins. Glad to have been of help. Too much punctuation. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: belle and sebby on the telly last nite
by Stephen Hewitt 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

aaah, you're thinking, aaah, of course they were on telly last nite, the acid house was on innit. And I shall say, aaaaaaaaaaaaah, but that's where you're wrong cos i'm much more hardcore/sad anorak/trainspotter than that. Yes, the thinking man's big brother "Bare Necessities" (Tuesdays BBC2 8.30pm), where groups of publicans and social workers are sent into the wilds of canada to survive on a diet of beaver*, featured *at least* ten seconds of the instrumental break in the middle of Seymour Stein, and i thought you'd like to know this :) Made my night anyway. *OK, so these guys are given a large, toothy, dam-building rodent to eat, and NOT ONE OF THEM sniggered, chuckled or made a single "i'm eating beaver", look at the size of that beaver", "what a hairy beaver" type joke...what is the world coming to So, looper are leaving jeepster, hmmm, who wants to start a book on how long til everyone else jumps ship, maybe seymour will be back over soon, he might even get to see dundee this time. xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: doing the dirty boogie
by cbrown2＠mmm.com 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

hello all, hope you're all fine and lovely I'm surprised that no-one's mentioned Stevies little excursion into the sandpit yet, seeing as they haven't I thought that I'd tell you all about it. I got a compilation cd on Monday called Caroline now! which has got loads of people covering rare(ish) Brian Wilson and Beach boys songs. Featured on there is one MR S. Jackson sometimes of this parish, he does a song called Good time (I'm sure there are Beach boys fanatics around here who will be able to tell who wrote it and which album it's from but I can't remember) and it's gorgeous. A lovely slowish song all about a girl called Penny who's good at cooking and doing the dirty boogie (now that's a good name for a dance, unless of course he's talking about something else which I've forgotten about it's been that long boo hoo), I'm listening to it now and it really is fantastic, just Stevie and an acoustic guitar with a little bit of organ in the background ahhhhhhhh There's plenty of other good songs on there too by such ace people as Norman Blake, Alex Chilton, Kim Fowley and the secret Goldfish (I really like their song, does anyone know anything about them as I got a couple of other songs of theirs on a compilation the other day including a cover of the shop assistant's "somewhere in China" so ... info please) Hmmm, my mind's just gone blank, which is a shame as I'm sure I had other things to tell, ah well never mind, that'll all have to wait for another time. Ta ta for now all you lovely people Chris PS Mr C, what, still no Tigermilking? PPS put all your money on my beloved Spireites (that's Chesterfield FC for the uninformed) to win the 3rd division this season, ahh pre-season optimism, you can't beat it +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Is it just me ?
by Linus with the arab strap 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Hullo all, is it just me or does Staurt David dislike Belle and Sebastian ? I heard remours that he wasn't really happy with the band members or the music or whatever ... I'm not sure... It also seems that his band - Looper is doing music that is too much different from B+S ... Just tell me whatever in yer head and what u have heard pls. Linus Of Orange Based in Hong Kong . ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ex-B&S News
by Richard Lander 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

Evenin' All Following on from Lawrence about the NME there is this news item about Looper leaving Jeepster. ------------------------------ STUART DAVID of GLASGOW lo-fi funksters LOOPER has revealed to nme.com that the band is quitting JEEPSTER, the current home of his former band BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, for their next record, and moving to MUTE. "I think we're gonna move to Mute for the next album. I think they have a pretty good understanding of what we want to do", said David, adding, that Mute would most likely release their next album in the US, as opposed to their previous label, Sub Pop. "I think Mute's gonna do it for the whole world. It's quite complicated being on two different record labels." Speaking about the group's next record, the follow-up to this year's 'The Geometrid', David added: "Probably, where that one ('The Geometrid') is more dance and electronic influenced, the next one will be a bit more hip-hop influenced. The more avant-garde end of hip-hop like Timbaland and Missy Elliot, those kind of beats." He did stress, however, that they weren't planning on doing a lot of rapping. He added, "Probably not, no, that's the thing I get tired of in hip-hop after a while. I like it to an extent, but a lot of the time I just wanna listen to the loops properly." ----------------------------- Richard Lander Lamma Island, Hong Kong +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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