September 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: As if I could think of a subject line at a time like this
by Laura Llew 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. Write, for instance: "The night is full of chaos, and the stars, blue, shiver in the distance....... It's obvious why I'm posting since there's no other reason - no other topic of which - someone could write at the moment. I was told that I shouldn't do this since; there have already been so many and I have nothing new to add. This contains no revelations or comforting solace to explain away anything. It won't even cause you to have shinier new looking floor tiles. Nor is there even a fresh lemon scent. My sincere apologies on all counts. Someone mentioned calling or being around those you loved because, among other things, this has reminded us all of what is really dear in life. I have no one to call or be around so instead I shall write to y'all. Thus, this is purely out of selfish desires - to somehow reason something where there is no sense to be found (a bit like an Aqua song). EE Cummings wrote a haunting verse which has been stalking me around for weeks now (Stalking? Yes. Perhaps the reason I find it haunting, eh?) "When any mortal even the most odd, can justify the ways of man to God, I find it odd that normal mortals can not justify the ways of God to man." Then today, something happened which is so completely unjustifiable on anyone's behalf that it's left me beyond bewildered. My little community here in North Carolina is completely horrified. I got a call earlier that everyone is fasting & praying because of what has happened so please don't think that, as someone else said, we just see this as an interruption in our daily routine. (I was at the bookshop when I heard. Well, when I read about it. I had to go on-line because no one could speak coherently enough about it to let me know what was happening. They just told me to pray. Can you tell I'm in the Bible Belt?) Jer mentioned my favorite movie, Harold & Maude (which I'm thinking of going and watching as soon as I send this). Oddly enough the Cat Stevens song, "Trouble" (which appears in H&M) has been what's been running through my mind all day: Trouble Oh trouble set me free I have seen your face And it's too much too much for me Trouble Oh trouble can't you see You're eating my heart away And there's nothing much left of me It seems as if boys named William are veritable fountains of wisdom. So, I hope Bill Harris doesn't mind if I share a story he told me which the Dali Lama tells about a Buddist monk who was imprisoned by the Chinese after they invaded Tibet. Apparently this monk was tortured mercilessly for years. I mean *tortured*, not just having Mentos commercials set on repeat for months on end. After he eventually escaped, he made it to see the Lama. The Lama asked him if he were afraid of dying during this time. The monk answered that the only thing he was afraid of was losing his compassion for his jailors/torturers because once that went, so did his soul. With that Bill reminded me of the importance to feel compassion not only for those who are dead and their friends and family, but also for those whose souls are so crippled they have no compassion left (the terrorists). When we venture into hate, aren't we already lost? Mm, he summed it up so much better than I. That really helped me (thank you Billzebub) which is why I shared it. Like most things in life you can't do anything to change the past; all you can do is control how you let it change you. So big huge hugs to all of the NY & DC sinister massive - Sexpot Sauer, Will Porter, Arik (who I was terrified for as I thought he was flying today), Phil, Ben, Laurel, Brian, Matthew. I'm glad to hear that y'all are all phsycially sound. I just heard Eric the half bee buzzing which is the biggest relieve since I was terribly worried over his silence. I can absolutely in no way imagine what it must be like to be in the middle of it all. It's horrifying enough to watch it on televison (which I'm morbidly glued to at times) but to actually be there admist it all -I can't comprehend. If anyone needs anything from me, I shall winningly whip on my awesome alliterative Superhero stunt caring cape and be there in a flying flash. Is there any word yet on those who were going to be traveling today (ie Jay)? I switch my vote to being terribly happy that Sinister decided to only do west coast gigs afterall. Laura _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re:Sinister: Is it War?
by Jennifer Bencangey 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hmm... I wouldn't be surprised if a war did erupt. People are already looking to blame anyone they can, many people are blaming the middle east. Meh. I suppose actually investigating who did it is a waste of good battling time. After all, we're America, and our penis size was challenged. We must kill. Oh, how we must kill. HAW! - Nej ________________________________________________________________ Get Free Anime Email, News, Links, Forums and Shopping at http://www.AnimeNation.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: dan
by Kirsten Kenyon 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

i'm sorry for the abrupt end to my post...and i'm sorry for posting twice in rapid succession. i just got a phone call while i was in the middle of writing....my friend dan has killed himself. he asked me to prom one year...i already had a date. he was the most talented writer i have ever met. he published a book during our junior year of high school. he was quiet and witty and one of the most interesting people i have ever had the privilege to meet. i saw him about two weeks ago. he gave me a huge hug. i wish i had hugged him longer. please please please take care of yourselves. kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i can't stop shaking
by Kirsten Kenyon 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

my heart hurts today. it was one of the most beautiful days i've seen in months, and i turned my face to the clear blue sky and i cried because i couldn't understand. i went for a few beers to clear my head...i don't think it helped. everyone had blank expressions on their faces, and nick drake played as a soundtrack to the silent pictures on the television. there was a girl on the news...about my age. covered in blood. i shouldn't have been able to go out for a beer, anyway...but nobody cared. we walked down the street and two kids came running over with a camera, trying to make some sort of documentary and asking us what we thought. i didn't say a word...i just wanted to hide. we went to the record shop and people were standing around yelling at each other, and trying to listen to jazz to ease their minds and smoking cigarettes in the shop, which you're not supposed to do. nobody said anything, though. my dad looks so sad...i've never seen him this way. and my mom...she looks terrified. it's making my stomach turn. i had to stop for gas on the way home...and the roads were covered in cars stopped dead waiting in line at the stations. people lined the streets waving american flags and shouting. they weren't helping anything. a friend of mine just killed himself. i am still shaking. LOVE kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: from the states.
by Mark Donohue 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

all, i'm a young american living in boston... what happened today endangered the lives of friends and family...thankfully it didn't take any. took the train home from school this morning...a great deal of my peers (by that i mean americans of my generation) apparently found what happened to be hilarious...a cause for celebration, even. everyone else seemed momentarily annoyed with the interruption of their daily routine. i can't say the occurrence or reaction startled me in the least...i offer best wishes to the families and friends of the deceased...and no one else. we'll all be back to our routine, tomorrow. tragic, isn't it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: *~*thanks*~*
by Maren Rocket 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hi. I don't write often. I actually just lurk around here, but I wanted to express how much it means to me that everyone is so concerned with the recent events, or "attack on the us" as my local news coverage is calling it. I'm from NY and have many friends who live in NYC, Pittsburgh and DC, and today has been the most frightening, eerie day of my life. I've spent the day trying to call around (many phone lines are tied up) and so far, everyone seems to be safely accounted for. I'm currently living in MA and I feel so distant from what has happened and yet, it has effected everything around me. My school was closed today, all the news and radio is about the attacks and while I should be using this free time to study and do work, it almost feels disrespectful to the victims and families, to consider anything other than this tragedy. Sure, classes will go on tomorrow and George W will continue to "hunt and punish" whoever is responsible for this, but that doesn't make me feel better or safer. This is just the beginning and I'm glad to know that at least some people out there are taking it as seriously as I am. I just wish that more people took these sorts of things seriously when they were happening in other countries, because then maybe, we wouldn't be in the position we are now...but maybe it's for the best that we are. ===== *~*how scandinavian of me*~* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: tragic.
by eric the half a bee 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

"Good to hear that most of you are okay. But could Mr Eric The Half A Bee please show his face?" I'm fine... skaken and disturbed, but fine. the number of people that were in #sinister today was staggering... I hope all of you who live or have family/friends in new york have been able to talk to them. I can't say anything else that hasn't already been said... -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A response from the U.S. east coast
by Kimberly Girton 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

I haven't posted in ages, but in light of the terrorist attack, I came to the Sinister List looking for comfort, some sense of solidarity, a feeling that people around the world understand the pain we feel at this time, and send their prayers. I will thank God every day for all of you on the list, and the fact that you care about us, no matter where we are. You are the only reason the voice in my head that is saying, "The world has gone to Hell" isn't taking over my entire thought process. I'd like to thank all of you who have offered your condolences to those of us on the east coast of the U.S. As a born-and-bred eastcoaster, a former college student in NY and a resident of D.C., my entire life - family, friends - is located within Washington D.C. and NYC. I am positive I am not the only one who can claim this story. I am not the only person who spent agonizing hours trying to track down family and friends, only to be met with tied up phone lines and the rebroadcasting of TV footage I needn't see more than once. Even once was one too many. By the grace of God, all of my friends who worked within a block of the Pentagon are safe, and all I know in Manhattan who were forced to flee their buildings are safe and accounted for at this time. I am VERY lucky. My father is stuck in St. Louis and won't be able to leave until Thursday. A friend, and employee of the NSA, is stuck in Seattle on a business trip. As this sort of thing is in the NSA's jurisdiction to prevent, my heart goes out to her and her coworkers. They do the best they can every day defending our country. Ubfortunately, they are vulnerable to error. It is indescribable how much those of us who were affected by this tragedy appreciate the kind words from fellow Sinisterees. From the bottom of my heart - thank you. The other main reason I write is to address the fears stated on this list of WWIII, etc. To start: yes, I am angry because someone has attacked U.S. soil, and my understanding that the U.S. is not particularly popular around the world does nothing to temper that anger. The fact remains that this is my country, and hundreds of thousands of innocent people have been injured, killed, or otherwise affected by an act of blatant, calculated cowardice. We will fear for our lives for weeks. We will jump at the slightest touch and we will instinctively duck at the sound of aircraft. I am not an advocate of violence. I was angry and disappointed when President Bush took office. But never have I, nor any of my friends who have always held the same political sentiments I have, been more consoled by the fact that we have a world leader willing to do whatever he must to ensure our national safety. We find ourselves turning to our leaders for solace, whether we voted for them or not. A military jeep drove up my street earlier today on patrol. I have never in my life been so happy to see what I normally condemn as "a symbol of our ability to bully half of the world." No one wants WWIII, and that includes the United States. We will do what we have to do to avoid it, but I plead with you as a U.S. citizen -- please support us and our government as we, the American people, have sworn to do. Criticism of U.S. politics and foreign relations doesn't do a bit of good. One of my best friends is a staunch member of the Communist Party. He has always expressed his discontent with America and our governmental officials. Today, in an act signifying the insurmountable nationalism we are able to muster, he gathered information for enrollment in the U.S. Navy and will be signing up tomorrow. It is a sad state of affairs that we have been pulled into a fight out of which we have previously tried to stay. Though retaliation is inevitable, we are STILL a nation focused on laws and human decency. It is difficult to maintain our composure as we harbor anger and overwhelming fear, but I am confident that our leaders will not lash out and add senseless insult to an injury felt around the world. Had you asked me yesterday what I think of our highest political officials, I would have made a "Texan inbreed" joke, to quote another Sinisteree. But in the light of the events of the past 12 hours, I am ready and willing to support my government in whatever they choose to do. The rescue workers will be on call for days. We will be cleaning up the aftermath for weeks. We will still be in shock for months. I am personally terrified to move in a week to a suburb of D.C., as I have been planning to do for several months now, because our new apartment is closer to the federal and financial districts of D.C. I send my sincere condolences to those who live directly in NYC and in the inner workings of D.C. None of our lives will ever be the same. Please, when posting to the list, which reaches many natives of American soil, remember that in theory, it is easy to condemn acts of defense and/or retaliation as excessive, or damaging to the idea of world peace. But it is not so easy to entertain rhetoric when every five minutes, another military vehicle flies over your house, when you break down in tears because you have finally tracked down an old friend who works three blocks down from the NYC World Trade Center, when family and friends were scheduled to fly today and all you can do is thank God they weren't on one of those four planes that met such a horrible fate this morning. Though it is small comfort, I will continue to replay in my mind the scene of our members of the U.S. Congress gathered on the Capitol Building steps, singing "God Bless America." It is this unity of purpose and nationalism that gives me the only comfort I can find. We as a nation will do what is necessary to ensure the safety of our citizens, as dictated by our national leaders. It is unfair for anyone to ask us to do otherwise. Again, thank you for your support, and may all of you be kept safe. Sincerely, K. Girton Washington, D.C. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Be Strong
by garymaher＠juno.com 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

You are all wonderful. Be strong and we will all pull through this together. People are still mostly good, and good will prevail. My house is about 20 miles W of lower Manhattan. If I go down the street and look due east, I can still see a thick column of smoke rising straight up, then turning all of its thickness to the south. If I didn't know the awful truth, I would think it was a house fire a few blocks away. It's hard to believe it is miles and miles from here. So many people in my town worked or have loved ones who worked in those buildings. Everybody is just numb and overwhelmed -- our minds cannot fully process the events of today. So far, everyone I know seems to be accounted for. But I know they (and I) are among the lucky. We seem to be safe here, but who knows what's coming next? Perspective: A lot of people in our world live their whole lives under these conditions. I feel for them today more than ever before. How can civilized people permit such suffering in our world? What could be so important that so many innocent people have to die? Be happy for what you have -- we all take too much for granted. And be strong -- we WILL all pull through this together. Love, Gary +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I just want to be at the MCA
by Katia913＠aol.com 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Today was the wierdest, school started fine, got there before anything happened and didn't know anything until second period. It wasn't so scary then, and I was still in a decent mood. My field trip to the Museum of contemporary art was cancled b/c the trafic was bad and b/c the city was shutting down, here in chicago. I jsut wanted to see some cool shit and have lunch with my dad. The day wore on, i wasn't supposed to be there, so I signed out to get the books at home, and while waiting for the bus I started to dream about what things will look like when war has started, b/c we know its comming. Get back to school in time for a free and lunch and sit in the nurses with dozens of crying girls talking about this shit. I sit with a big boy whos father was there on buisness and is crying with fear for him. My art class has a girl whos uncle died, he was on the 91 floor. Everything is pandemonium, after school we are all to go straight home, not sure if there will be school tomorrow. But I know that my life will never feel the same. At the beginning of this I was just sad that I didn't get to go to the MCA and now I'm left with a huge pit and a whole lot of arguments. I love you all kate of chicago +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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