September 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: A vain attempt, but I have to try.
by Kimberly Girton 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

To the host: If there is too much about the latest events being posted, I understand your right to not pass on some posts. I know my second post may sound like I am beating a dead horse, but after sharing the comments on the Sinister list with others, I don't feel that people of similar mind to myself have been fairly represented. So I have written one more, and after I submit this for possible post, I will remain quiet on the public board. Thank you sincerely for your time. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I know I posted yesterday, and I did not intend to post again. I understood when I wrote my post that it would perhaps disturb some of the Sinister readers. While I tried to maintain a semblance of composure, I'm sure the rest of the American citizens on this list understand that it's a difficult thing to do in the wake of such an event. First of all, I again want to reiterate how pointless it is to criticize American leaders and policy. Just as you have asked America not to jump to conclusions and pointing fingers middle-eastern countries, I ask that you not jump to conclusions and assume that an angry and excessive retaliation is the automatic course of action the U.S. will take. To quote two Sinisterees: "George Bush was on the telly being illiterate and a complete retard. I'm sure everyone feels really safe knowing that the worlds most powerful country in a time of crisis lies in the hands of a Texan inbred." There are several reasons this comment moves me to speak: If you read my post yesterday, you'd know I'd have agreed with this sentiment about G.W. Bush two days ago. But as the clock turned to 8:45 Tuesday morning, our biggest national conflict was no longer about politics, state lines, or questionable family "dynasties." To interject a statement about yesterday's tragedy with an insult to America's chief executive is a cheap shot, is unecessary, and is insensitive to U.S. citizens who are looking desperately to our leaders for reorganization. We are scared, and are trying to rely on our established system, whether we like it or not, to find some sense of order. To have that system verbally attacked by ANYONE is unsettling, and the act serves no good purpose. For this reason, I absolutely take offense to the statement. Secondly, of course I don't feel safe. How can I? However, my fear is NOT rooted in knowing who the American president happens to be. Rather, I fear for my safety as a natural reaction to a senseless act of violence, as all human beings would. Lastly, the United States of America on the whole does NOT lie in the hands of any one person. As I alluded to in my last post, it DOES lie in the hands of our members of Congress and military officials, but MOST of all, in the American public. Our country lies in our OWN hands: THAT freedom is exactly why we were targeted in the first place. I am not going to pick up (to again quote) the "World's Most Powerful Country" button and display it proudly - if there is anything we as a nation have learned from this, it is that we are NOT invulnerable. Any position the U.S. appeared to other nations to have at the top of an abstract political hierarchy was eliminated the very moment the first plane was hijacked. If I pick up anything to display proudly, it will be an American flag, and I will ask my fellow citizens to hold it with me. While fears about a "WWIII" are absolutely understandable, and while the majority of the U.S. shares these fears, I acknowledge that there will always be people whose first and only response is anger and violence. But, as another Sinisteree pointed out, the likelihood of a mass world war is slim to none. But also know that the American public is not, on the whole, bloodthirsty. We are human and have a right to our emotions, but our republic is based on a system which elects people so that those who cannot regain a level head after an event such as this are equaled out by those who can. Many criticize our system; I have criticized it myself, but it is now that we need it most, and we pray it will work for us. We WILL prove resilience, but we are NOT out to wreak havoc and destroy indiscriminately. All we want is for the people who did this to be brought to justice. To this effect, I am proud of the way we have handled the situation thus far; I am proud of the work of our intelligence officers, and I am proud of their patience. I am confident we will do our best to avoid unecessary casualties, as we fully understand that there is no ONE nation responsible. However, as this attack was committed without regard to distinction between innocent parties and otherwise (in fact, ALL victims were innocent parties), the issue is now broken down to every human being's inalienable right to live. Someone else made the "live-or-die" decision for thousands of people yesterday. I am deeply sorry that there may be consequent casualties elsewhere. I feel no less anguish over the possible loss of innocent lives in any foreign country than I do for the loss of the innocent lives of my fellow citizens. But again, it is unfair to ask the American public to roll over and not defend our right to life. This was not an attack solely on America - it was an attack on freedom. If we do nothing to discourage similar attacks, it could very well happen again, to other free nations. The majority of Sinisterees, if not all, live in said free nations. It will not be so easy to hear others insult your country and its leaders when you're still in mourning and looking for SOME stability. It will not be so easy to offer a blanket statement on the philosophical superiority of peace: I don't argue that fact - I am simply saying that rarely will you find in life a perfect right that is also feasible, especially in a case like this. I don't intend to be morbid, sound bitter, or sound like I am lashing out. I am not angry with the people who expressed sentiments that disturb me; I am simply relaying some of the dialogues going on in the States right now. On a more personal note, I am still proud of my friend's decision to join the Navy and will not discourage him -- and I know this statement will be controversial. My pride in his decision does not stem from anger or a hunger for revenge. I am proud because my friend is putting the rights of his fellow human beings before his own needs (in his case, this alone is a first...). This includes the rights of everyone worldwide. If the U.S. chooses to retaliate via miliatry means, it will be on behalf of all free nations. I don't believe there is any shame in wanting to contribute to that cause. Last week, I would have been the first to join in a conversation about what is wrong within the United States. I am still opposed to capitalism on many levels, and there are so many miniscule political issues about my country that still trouble me. But I ask you again to PLEASE be sensitive to all American Sinisterees, be you stateside or abroad. The media is always biased and there is always a degree if misinformation about what exactly is going on. So pay attention and seek out all sides of the story before condoning or condemning any action. For a lot of us, our world is no longer able to support ideals about turning the other cheek. It is all we can do to clean up the aftermath without crumbling in grief. Throwing around rhetorial questions about right and wrong, which can never be perfectly resolved as humans are inherently flawed, does nothing to help. In time, the U.S. will gather again to try to change our own system to better meet the needs of people worldwide, as I will always hope is a goal of all nations. But right now, our job is to gather together in prayer and rational thought, and handle the situation as it has been presented to us. Thank you again, a million times over, to those of you who understand our position as Americans and are offering condolences in our time of need - and that includes need worldwide, as this has left virtually no one unaffected. Rest assured that the U.S. will support you accordingly in the future. Our idealism insofar as our ability to defend human rights will not be vanquished. In equal parts turmoil and resolve, K. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: starting a fundraiser
by Katia913＠aol.com 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

I know that I have posted earlier on this subject, but I wanted to say that me and a friend got three organizations at my highschool to begin fundraisers today, a dance on frieday will have proceeds going to the red cross and we are crying envelopes for the next two weeks to raise 3500 (hopefully). I'm proud of being proactive, and I urge you all to find your own way to do the same much love kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fwd: B&S @ Seattle
by Rinaldo Thatchez 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

hello sinister, I hope you all are well though I have already heard that some of you are not so well. Deepest sympathies to all. Though any thing other than the events of the last 36 hours seems rather picayune by comparison, I received the message below from a non-listee who requested that I forward it. It concerns a few available tickets to the Seattle show. If interested, please email Julia, not me, offlist. On a related note: I've already notified those I knew were going to be at the Seattle gig but in case you might have slipped through the cracks and not gotten the notice, there will be a meet up on Friday before the show at the Cha Cha on Pine St. Below is a link explaining everything you could want to know about the location. They open at 4 and I'll be getting there, as I imagine most of us will, around 5. http://seattle.citysearch.com/profile/11349326/ -Rinaldo ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Julia M. DeBaecke" <debaecke(a)u.washington.edu> To: <ryanbthat(a)hotmail.com> Subject: B&S @ Seattle Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:29:27 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Hello, I saw your post on the sinister mailing list and thought you might know someone who would want some tickets for the seattle show. I have four tickets, and so far there's only me and possibly one other person going. So i have two tix, maybe even three, to get rid of. i'd rather give them away to someone who reallly wants to go, rather than not using them. of course, if someone wants to make a donation, i'd accept that too. i'll sell them for less than what i paid. thanks for any help you might be able to offer. feel free to post this message on sinister, if you wish. julia _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: vancouver gig
by Katrina House 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

hi all, the band are on their way to the canadian border now, so unless you hear otherwise, you can pretty much consider the vancouver gig tomorrow - thursday night - is on. will mail again if there is any more definite news to the contrary. hope everyone who made it to the portland gig last night found some solace in the music. cheers, katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #590
by Aspensarah＠aol.com 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hi this is my first post. i`m in shock, as everyone else is. i`m from portland but go to school in montreal, and prior to yesterday the most upsetting thing in my life was missing the belle and sebastian show last night because i`m at school on the other coast. now the smaller things seem futile to worry about, don`t they. i`m glad other portlanders were consoled by the band`s words. the only comfort for me has the support of the other students, american or otherwise, and your support dear sinisterees. i have read all the messages of earlier today, and only ask everyone to consider this: has there ever been a form of military retaliation that does not result in the loss of innocent lives? does any nation have the right to kill complete innocents, even after an attack on their own innocents? to put it another way, if some maniac from the states decided to take the lives of innocents in say, mexico, does the mexican government now have the right to bomb a populated area in the us because the perpetrator could be killed by the bombs? the u.s. has sponsored many a similar act (read: iraq) to no avail., only to the deaths of people who do not neccessarily support the dictatorships they do not have the choice but to live under. alright, i`m rambling and i don`t mean any disrespect toward anyone who is suffering. but i do believe in peace first and foremost, and that as long as revenge and retaliation exist as viable courses of action we will be no closer to the healthy world we all deserve the chance to live in. i am greatful to each and every one of you, thoughtful and eloquent and heartful sinisteeries, and i`m so glad we can take comfort in each other, even though most of us have never met. pax, sarah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sadness
by Keith Davis 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

I could not believe what I was hearing on Tuesday morning. I was ready > to spit out my glowing and exciting review of Saturday's SF show, when I > heard and seen images from our tragedy here in the states. How did this > happen? I wanted to say I am glad I had the experience to escape from > this awful world and bask in the words and sounds of Belle and > Sebastian's music before the reality of our lives actually hit me > yesterday. So sad....here is an article I got from a Canadian paper that > says a lot. > > > America: The Good Neighbor. > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a > remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto > by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is > the full text of his. > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the > most generous and possibly the least > appreciated people on all the earth. > > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted > out of the debris of war by the Americans who > poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None > of these countries is today paying even the > interest on its remaining debts to the United States. > > When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans > who propped it up, and their reward was > to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw > it. > > > > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that > hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American > communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. > > > > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into > discouraged countries. Now newspapers > in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering > Americans. > > > > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the > erosion of the United States dollar build its own > airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the > Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, > or the Douglas DC10? > > > > If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines > except Russia fly American Planes? You talk > about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German > technocracy, and you get automobiles. > You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not > once, but several times - and safely > home again. > > > > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store > window for everybody to look at. Even > their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our > streets, and most of them, unless they are > breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at > home to spend here. > > > > When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down > through age, it was the Americans who > rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central > went broke, nobody > > Loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. > > > > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other > people in trouble. Can you name me > even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I > don't think there was outside help even > during the San Francisco earthquake. > > > > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned > tired of hearing them get kicked around. > They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, > they are entitled to thumb their nose at > the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada > is not one of those." > > > > Stand proud, America! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I'm with you
by Santi Trullenque 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

"I'm with you in Rockland where you bang on the catatonic piano the soul is innocent and immortal it should never die ungodly in an armed madhouse." Allen Ginsberg You're not alone... dead or alive...you're not alone...love to all... Santi Trullenque (Barcelona) Is this reality? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Sorrow Of The World
by P F 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

So Gibraltar has tumbled. I can hear sirens. I was indirectly alerted to the catastrophe by one of my favourite pop singers, and watched it on a big TV with my producer. Our own handiwork played over the first 2 minutes of footage of blue sky, orange flame and black smoke. From the appearance of a bizarre accident to the unmistakable malice of a deliberate strike. The death toll is monstrous. And so many of those on the ground were firefighters and medical staff - the best in New York, of all places - already seeking to do their jobs when the buildings came down, after which they were needed even more, yet gone. That's as sad as anything about this disaster. I see that Alasdair Cook has posted - *again*. His words will demand my attention, soon. Jefferson, I think we're lost, indeed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: a day for a sulk
by Ken Chu 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hello, Yesterday lunchtime, because I didn't really have any friends at work, I took lunchtime outside on my own, because there is a lake near by with a bench I can sit at. I sat there for 45 minutes, just looking at the lake. If people saw me there they probably would have thought that I was very strange, just sitting there on my own, but I liked it, I liked the peace, just birds, flying over a tranquil lake, I looked on, and celebrated the silence. Who would have known that within an hour, on the other side of the atlantic ocean all hell broke loose. I finished work, and my mum asked me if I watched the news, I was thinking "oh here we go more scaremongery foot scare stories", she told me the world trade centre has been blown up by hijacked planes. It took me a few seconds.. "World Trade Centre??" and "fucking hell" came into my head. And I went back home, it was true, cos it was on TV, in full colour, a plane, flying full speed into a building, have I seen anything like this happen before? Yes, I have, many times in films, it looked just like that, except in films it looked more realistic. And then I saw how big the WTC was, compared to a bliming jumbo jet, and saw the whole thing went down, it was demoralising. My heart felt so heavy, it still is, I had trouble breathing, and I don't even live in America. It's the whole simplicity of it that really distraught me, no tanks, no fighter planes, no napalm, no atomic bombs, just 4 hijacked planes, blew a hole on the biggest symbol of civilised world - the civilians. I shivered. I am very sorry to read about Kirsten and Sophie's posts. At this time I don't want to do anything at all, apart from with my friends and family, to feel safe with company, so, this weekend, it's picnic time... everyone who live close to at least another sinister should go and meet up, and try and forget about everything, for a day or two, and listen to nice day for a sulk to try and lift ourselves again. When no one talked about Ken Chu for a whole day, you know something is wrong. Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: My last post was a mess
by Simon Fallaha 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hello again everyone. Did I call this an 'accident' yesterday? This was no accident, it was a bloody terrorist attack. Also, I was sorry about the BUILDING. Why didn't I mention the most important thing of all - the people who had lost their lives, and their families? I didn't even mention the economic disaster. Anyway, I really couldn't think of what to say back then - I have a better idea now. I've been watching the news regularly since yesterday and the severity of it all is rapidly dawning on me. For one thing, two of my friends are over there. I wonder how Dave (on holiday there) is coping with all of this. I have heard that he's OK, however. And one of my female friends, Louise, was due to return home from the States on the 15th - when will she come back now? One of my Y! Messenger American friends wrote to me yesterday longing for revenge. Revenge in what way? Hopefully not war. I couldn't think of what to say to her - she was hurting much more than I was. Seeing the numerous reports on the news has made me wonder even more about how strange this world is. Why should everyone suffer for what just a relatively small number of terrorists have done? I considered it sick when I heard about Iraq celebrating, but then they are overjoyed that the States has been attacked. Not that I still don't consider it sick. I'll tell you what, this disaster may be even more serious than I think. A friend of mine at the Operatic Society likened it to the Wall Street crash of 1929. Well, I think this is similar only in one way. After all, there were no Middle Eastern terrorists involved. I think maybe I was sorry about the building cos I always wanted to visit it when I was younger, and now I'll never get the chance. Still, I can't believe my naivety yesterday. The people who lost their lives, their families, and the people affected severely by the disaster are far more important. Even more important than how serious an economic disaster this is. So important that all tonight's football matches, plus various other shows around the world (notably music shows, as, have been cancelled. But it's a sign of respect. I'm convinced, like everyone else is, that we will get through this. But I'm just hoping that WW III isn't the answer. Before I go, notes to a few people: Kirsten - I'm really sorry. Stuart Gardiner - You are right. Diana's death seems a really small event compared to this. Mind you, if this was made into a film (which I hope it won't be), people will make a profit out of it just like Di's death. Jen - I read your post numerous times, it was wonderfully written. I especially agreed with you yesterday when you said - 'George Bush was on the telly being illiterate and a complete retard. I'm sure everyone feels really safe knowing that the worlds most powerful country in a time of crisis lies in the hands of a Texan inbred.' Does anyone else think so? Jenni (Cay) - I'm about to read your post. Everyone else on the list - My thoughts are with all of you. Take care, Psi. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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