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From: Nick Dastoor <nickdastoor(a)yahoo.com>
To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net>
Date: 31 March 1998 09:55
Subject: RE: Sinister: Fun for the Family!
>I think I do remember two young whippersnappers cross-legged on the
>floor at the Sunday matinee. Which is confusing me, because I can't
>dispel the nagging feeling that jon.g and bethey are too perfect to be
>real. Have you looked at their descriptions of one another on their
>webpages? If only I was that cool when I was 15. If only I were that
>cool now. Why am I so obsessed with youth?
>
We were in the corner on the left as you go in.
*jong blushes*
jong is actually real, and I think bethey is too.
>I have some questions I've decided to throw open to the floor.
>
>What is that song 'Arab Strap' that B&S did in Manchester? Is it a
>(d'oh) Arab Strap cover? Only it sounded nothing like them - there was
>proper singing and everything.
>
It is definitely not an Arab Strap song - apart from the fact that it
couldn't be arab strap, it's not in their discography (have you been to
www.chemikal.demon.co.uk? It's quite good). Maybe, just maybe, it's an old
b-side of someone's or something and arab strap named themselves after it
and b&s played it at manc. but who knows. All it says@ chemikal was that
Aidan of Arab Strap (or it might have been malcolm) was in a band called
arab
strap before he met malcolm/aidan, so that's not much help now, is it boys
and girls?
>Did the name Belle and Sebastian come before or after Isobel joined?
Isn't there that story that Stuart M wrote a story about Isobelle and
Sebastian and then named the band that, as well as the cartoon/film etc?
>
>Are Belle and Sebastian still not snogging?
>
We haven't heard anything since Tigermilk - we know that they were the
product of botched capitalism form IYFS, but nothing since (apart from the
song belle & sebastian, which doesn't help). Maybe they're trying to keep
their relationship covered up.
>nick.d
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From: Chris Leonard <cleonard(a)MURRAYJ.COM>
To: 'Sinister' <sinister(a)majordomo.net>
Date: 31 March 1998 10:38
Subject: RE: Sinister: i'll go and play with words and pictures...
>Pigeon
>Street had rather annoying electronic toms to represent the coo of a
>pigeon, if I recall.
>
YES! it did - that's how I remembered about it, because me and bethey went
to the theatre with her parents at new year-ish and at the climax of the
emotional spectacle, they had all those pigeon street noises. I was torn
between smiling at pigeon street or crying at the unfolding drama, but
neither bethey nor her parents could remember pigeon street.
You can still find them on most 80s Casio Keyboards - if you see one in a
car boot sale or down the market, remember that if it hasn't got pigeon
street sounds on it, then don't buy it.
Pigeon Street will probably not be understood by:
1 - those over 20
2 - those who don't live in the uk
3 - those who have better things to think about.
So, it's rather irrelevant to them, but fab to those who can remember.
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From: Adrian Evans <aevans(a)env-dept.devon-cc.gov.uk>
To: 'Sinister' <sinister-digest(a)majordomo.net>
Date: 31 March 1998 12:41
Subject: Sinister: Alphabet
>Y is for youngsters like Jon and Bethey
Wow - we're turning up everywhere. I feel famous. I'm just going to point
out again that my friend Katie, who sits next to me in school assembly is
also on the list and is younger than me, but older than bethey (ie 15).
Just so she doesn't feel left out. But I don't now how Katie could have
been fitted in the rhyme.
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Subject: Black-eyed Dog by Nick Drake
He had to do it again and again when he was recording it, didn't he - he got
so upset he couldn't sing. You can definitely hear it in his voice. It
says that in the cover of 'Way To Blue' - his greatest hits album, except he
didn't have any hits, so it's called 'An Introduction To Nick Drake'. It's
good, by the way, if any of you without him are thinking of buying anything.
Sixteen of his best tracks for �9 - a super deal.
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Right, well that's that lot replied to.
Now - would Cliff let me send it or not? I'm not sure. He seems like quite
a nice man, so I'll say yes, even though most of it is irrelevant.
bethey know loads about cliff, I think, or it could be my imagination.
jon g.
jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/
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We're all choked up with emotion today, aren't we? I find it
hard to think about stuff like this at college, which is a bit grim,
frankly. However, I'll do my best.
Lets go for a nice conventional one to begin with: Something
Changed by Pulp. Possibly the least cynical and ironic song Jarvis
Cocker has ever written. And it's very lovely indeed.
Dead Bird Sings by Baby Bird. Pretty much ditto for this one,
actually.
Heart Of Darkness by Sparklehorse. Just gorgeous and never
fails to prod the tear ducts into action. I think it's that pedal steel
sound that does it.
Fly by Nick Drake. "And I just sit on the ground in your way".
And, it goes without saying (except that I just said it...oh sod
it), many many Belle & Sebastian songs. Fox in the Snow. The slow live
version of Seeing Other People. We Rule The School (oh, how beautiful
is this song?).
And that's just some of the _songs_. So much poetry makes me
want to bawl. Or at least makes my nose ache in anticipation of crying.
Anyway, that's enough for now.
ByeBye,
Liz
(edaplynr3n00297(a)kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk)
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silence
.is
a
looking
bird: the
turn
ing; edge, of
life
(inquiry before snow
e.e. cummings
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I think I do remember two young whippersnappers cross-legged on the
floor at the Sunday matinee. Which is confusing me, because I can't
dispel the nagging feeling that jon.g and bethey are too perfect to be
real. Have you looked at their descriptions of one another on their
webpages? If only I was that cool when I was 15. If only I were that
cool now. Why am I so obsessed with youth?
I have some questions I've decided to throw open to the floor.
What is that song 'Arab Strap' that B&S did in Manchester? Is it a
(d'oh) Arab Strap cover? Only it sounded nothing like them - there was
proper singing and everything.
Did the name Belle and Sebastian come before or after Isobel joined?
Are Belle and Sebastian still not snogging?
nick.d
> Date: 30 March 1998 14:42
> Subject: RE: Sinister: Fun for the Family!
>
>
> >B is for Bethy and Jon, who've only just turned fifiteen,
>
> (jon hides embarassedly)
>
> me and bethey were just saying how exciting it will be next time we go
> to a B&S gig, all you lot (all you grown-ups) that are there are going
> to know exactly who we are and they will come pick on us.
>
> Did anyone notice us at the sunday matinee in Manchester? we felt
like
> everyone was looking at us cos we were so small, but I don't know.
> The best bit was when we collected our tickets from the credit card
> bloke and I had to explain to him that it was my Mum's credit card -
> it was more than slightly amusing.
>
> [�]
>
> You might be wondering why bethey hardly ever posts, unlike jong, who
> feels famous because he posts so much. Anyway, bethey hasn't broken
> up yet, so that's why. That's also why I appear and disappear - I'm
> normally too busy in term time - I have to look out of my window for
> an hour and then do a bit of homework, so that takes up lots of my
time.
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:53:37 +0100
> From: "Bramleys" <bramly(a)globalnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Sinister:the joys of youth
>
>
> At the next b&s concerts will everyone please not pick on us. i am
> very delicate as i am vertically challenged in my extreme youth and
> this prospect scares me greatly. jon is, however, very strong and
> tough and will protect me by kicking his leg so that the corner of his
> flares pokes you in the eye, so be scared.
>
> this is just to prove that i can write, as jon highlighted the fact
> that i hardly ever post
>
> bethey
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
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>
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Yaz wrote:
But, song-wise, i can never, never, never listen to Black-Eyed Dog by Nick
Drake. It just has to be the most horrific song ever written. Does anyone
else (apart from me an' Steve Maconie) think so too?
That song is just sooo bleak. All of those last 4 are, but Black Eyed Dog
is just so hard to listen to.
Martha by Tom Waits never fails to upset me. About a year and a half ago,
I'd just broken up with my girlfriend and she was in the next room not
talking to me. I was sitting in the dark listening to Nick Drake's bryter
layter and pink moon and feeling sad. I put on closing time by Tom Waits
and when that song came on I was ordered to take that fucking record off.
Never been able to listen to it much since.
The only B&S song that makes me sad is Seeing Other People. I have to fast
forward past the session version. Another girl-related incident.
Or almost anything by Chet Baker.
This is starting to look like some sort of confessional, so I'd better stop.
Be sweet.
joss
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Firstly, a welcome aboard to the delicious Ms. Janine Papp for erstwhilely
straying onto this list... she's NYC strong, yo!
A friend of mine thinks that I sound like Stevie when he sings the
backing for Fox In the Snow... "when your legs are feeling back and blue".
gulp!
and how about films that never fail to bring tears to our sensitive eyes
(cos we're all closet tear-jerks)? I remember just non-stop bawling
during Babe, that talking pig film--I can't really explain why. It was
just the timing I guess because it was my birthday and alone in a crowded
$3 theatre. Egad, that sounds salacious.
francisco
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> The Big Time by Suede. "And you're in the way." I used to always feel that.
>
> Letter to Hermoine by David Bowie.
>
>
> But on a higher note. I've just found out that some research work I did on
>Glaswegian last year has been picked up by the media and my boss is being
>interviewed on the Big Breakfast on Thursday. Wow. I wonder if she'll
>mention my name.
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WEEK 1-5 MAY
1.-FREE DESIGN "You could be born again" Please vote for them in the
tweenet
2.-JAN & DEAN "Easy as one"
3.- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN "Song for childrens"
4.- HEAVENLY "Cool guitar boy"
5.- ROGER NICHOLS....."Trust"
6.- THE SMITHS " Well I wonder"
7.- THE SWEETEST ACHE "I remenber Caroline"
8.- FRANCOISE HARDY "Soleil"
9.- FREEDESIGN "Kites are fun"
10.- SUPER "Girls go Bravo"
Cheers
Jose Maria
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Thank you John,
I'm really touched by the words you said. I wish we had some guys like
you here in Brazil and I wish we had more people that understand what
B&S are trying to say (they're really saying something, believe me).
Cadu.
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>From: john wigham <jwigham(a)meadowell-srb.demon.co.uk>
>Subject: Sinister: Real sleaze
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>Reply-To: john wigham <jwigham(a)meadowell-srb.demon.co.uk>
>X-List: Sinister
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>
>
>This came up a couple of digests ago...
>
>> >>> HOW SLEAZY ARE YOU?
>> >>> (1) Ever laughed at someone else's misfortune?
>> >>> 1 point
>> >>> (2) Ever laughed at a physically or mentally handicapped
person?
>> >>> 2 points
>> >>> (3) Ever tried alcohol?
>> >>> 1 point
>> >>> (4) Ever been drunk?
>> >>> 2 points
>> >>> (5) Ever play drinking games?
>> >>> 2 points
>
>etc etc etc (various other things, like how it's ten times sleazier to
>have gay sex than it is to laugh at a mentally handicapped person)
>
>It's not very Belle & Sebastian, is it? For goodness sake, real sleaze
>is about dishonesty, exploitation or hurting people, not about who
with,
>how or where you have sex. This sort of stuff is just the dark
flipside
>of uptight Christian moral values - haven't we got beyond this? Don't
>B&S lyrics just shine with the exact opposite - gentle acceptance of
>whatever sexuality you're into?
>
>Whatever gets you through the night...
>
>John
>xxxxxx (to everyone)
>
>
>--
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Alphabet gametypegubbins.
A is for Adrian an obvious start,
B is the Belle that is dear to our hearts.
C is Cloud-Cuckoo, the land that I'm from,
D is for David, the Bluesoda one.
E is for Evans, his talents are clear (?)
F is for Fitchett - the Duke, he still here ?
G is for Goooooners, the title is theirs,
H is for Honey who thinks no-one cares.
I is for Iceland or Beejam by right.
J is for John Jackson who posts nothing but shite ;)))
K is for Kate who's just failed her test..again :(
L is so obvious, Lazy Line Painter Jane.
M is for Murdoch, the boys just a dear,
N is for No-one, who cares if he's queer.
O's for opinion, best kept off of Sinister,
P is Peter Miller, Labours Cottaging Minister.
Q is for Queer, the ongoing debate,
R is for Rod, who's website is great (apparently).
S is for Stuart and for Sarah the Stude,
T is Tag and for Toilets..How rude ?
U is for underwear, we're all keen to show,
V is for vixen, that Fox in the Snow.
W is for Watson, that turtlenecked gem,
X is for Xenophobes, we can do without them.
Y is for youngsters like Jon and Bethey
Z is the letter that makes these things messy.
So there you have it ladies and gentlemen....errrrrrthankyouverymuch.
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I know I'm late in replying to this one, but I've been away for the past
week..up in Edinburgh, and what a fine city it is! I had to sign off the
digest before leaving, and
this was one of the last ones I got, so i missed any replies if there were
any....
On 22 Mar 1998
Stephen_J._Wood(a)andyclin.exnet.com wrote:
>Monica is the singer for a Scottish band called Thrum. I know they've had
a
>mixed press on this list in the past, but in my opinion are/were one of
the
>best bands around, her singing with a big guitar/bass/drums line-up in a
>crazyhorse style.
When I first heard LLPJ I knew that voice was familiar, but couldn't think
where from.
Initially she reminded me of...(and don't chastise me for this because
she's a lot
better than some people may be aware of..in fact I think she's an
angel)....Maria
McKee.....There, I've said it now....Now I hear that Monica is in fact the
singer for Thrum, and I have seen this band, a few years ago now, maybe
even supporting Maria or
it may have been Grant Lee Buffalo...??
But all of these artists appear to have gone to seed, I do hope they are
all still
working on material as I'm very eager to hear new output from them all...So
anyone got
any news at all???? All info gratefully received.
Right that's enough from me, I'll shut up and get back in my box now.....
Ady
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