Christopher Alexander Leonard revealed:
I went to a public toilet the other day. I was
>standing at the urinal taking care of the matter in hand, and two
>urinals along there was an old jakey bloke taking care of his matter in
>hand
Thank you Christopher. This is the kind of thing I'd like to see more of on
the list. How about if every member of the list goes to their nearest public
lavatory and waits around until something interesting happens? Don't worry
if you're shy, some of them have helpful little peepholes drilled in the
doors so no one will know that you're there. If we all do this I'm sure the
results will put the PE / Big Tackle thread in the shade. In the likely
event of seeing someone "at it" the lucky listee should burst out of their
hiding place (if they have chosen to go undercover) and award the person in
question a Crackerjack pencil and ask them what is the Meaning of True Pop.
That way we can all kill two birds with one stone:- we get a toilet-related
anecdote and another piece to put in the Great Pop Jigsaw to boot. Hey
presto!
I'm all confused as to which Northy is which.
Trousers is Stephen Trousers of the Poetry Society. He must be ill because
there was no Monday Poem this week.
I quite like Super Furry Animals but I've never even heard Catatonic. Can't
say I'm overly bothered though.
Northy one day claimed to be a bit Welsh and then the next day his "thank
God I'm Welsh" thing started appearing.
Veterans of the Ivor the Engine Competition (which I won!) know that Welsh
people are the tops, so relax, Huw. Go and get that Dark Side of the Moon
album out again. You know it makes sense. Lie back and think of John
Toshack.
Some of you will remember that I was so blinded by jealousy after Tim's
appearance in "Q" that I called him a "bloated drunken turnip". It was true,
but I shouldn't have said it. After a sutably Pinteresque pause I have made
my own attempt to get my name in "Q". I sent a B&S related question to
Jarvis Cocker. I do hope they use it. Mainly because there's a twenty-five
pound prize, which I suspect is more than Hopkins got.
Did Taggart really die of a broken heart? Did you know Isaac Hayes used to
be in The Rockford Files?
Listen, this is pish, I think I'll shut up again.
Peter
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the new issue of chickfactor (#11) has two great huge interviews with
isobel and sarah! it also has their lovely images on the front & back
cover, and other interviews with the likes of momus, divine comedy, etc.
check it out!
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In a message dated 3/25/98 10:24:56PM, you write:
<< You've still got your copies of Are You Scared To Get Happy haven't
you..
>>
Is this a rhetorical question? AYSTGH, along with Troutfishing In Leytonstone
(on a lesser scale) used to make me leap about the room when I was about 17.
And the Anorak City flexi that came with the BESTest issue of that finest of
fanzines still runs through my mind on a regular basis. This was a fanzine
that said (excuse the paraphrasing, but it's from a rather addled memory) "We
were on a bus a few weeks ago and we saw a Hurrah! poster. Both Clare and I
agreed that they'd used the WRONG shade of blue..." - and it smelt so good as
well.
I agree totally with the ideals of passion, idealism, SCREAMing, love/hate,
etc that the venerable Duke espouses.... are all the young soul rebels are
tucked up in their beds? (my own passion died circa summer '95, since you
asked, or not, as the case may be). Hey, maybe that's why I'm a journalisty!
Whatever.
Stephen, shrinking by the second.
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This list stinks
all I have encountered from this list is hate. It has in fact soured
my liking of B&S a litte. You know when you are listening to all
those lovely lyrics about little people like JANE, stop to consider
that you are all the perpertrators of such bad feelings towards me.
Just ask members of the Catatonia list. They think this list stinks
as well.
Roll on Conservatives. Probably needn't bother now looking at
Labour. Still, people should realise that both traffic jams and
hierarchy are essential to a thriving economy.
GOODBYE FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER
I asked a question. I never said it was a "frigging service"
oh actually I did. Oh well!
bye
Northy
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Cerys Matthews - 1998
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>>Which leads me to B and S. I must have seen five or six hundred bands over
>>the last fifteen years, but nothing remotely comparable to our hero/ines.
>>How can this be explained? Are there any other people on the list around
>>the age of 30 who feel the same? Jon.g and bethey are only fifteen: do you
>>understand quite how unique this band are? Even though they shamble around
>>on stage like a bunch of fools, the end result astonishes me every time.
I think that the indescribable factor you are looking for is summed up by mr
lachlan young on b&s:
"it reminds me of being 15 again"
so does this mean that b&s are best when a feeling of nostalgia exists, or
if you're actually 15? does this mean they'll get better? are the older
(than me) people happy that they had to shop around and then be rewarded
with b&s, or are jon and I envied for diving right in?
ho hum
bethey
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Several of you have suggested that it might be better for people to wait
until they are in their mid-twenties before going to university when they
are more mature and know whther they really want to be there. I thought
I'd better try to oppose this argument, diplomatically of course! I did all the
things that those who say they 'wasted their time' (re going to nightclubs
etc) did, but worked bloody hard as well and then had to endure quite a
long period of unemployment as I graduated in 92 when there wasn't
exactly a lot of work about. It was interesting reading the sleevenotes to
IYFS which says quite a lot on this subject (in stark contrast to the
crassness that you get on most albums) where mention is made of
Sarah and Isobel's arts degrees not being worth the paper they're
printed on etc. "But you could always temp for a while. or teach."
This made me laugh as people were always saying this to me when I
was on the dole! As if it was some sort of soft option for people who
didn't know what they wanted to do! I thought, bloody hell, this is the
most important job in the world.... a person is entrusted with determining
the future of a generation (part of it, anyway) and this is how the
vocation is regarded! What hope is there! It just so happened that
teaching was the one thing I knew I DIDN'T want to do. Plus the fact I
knew I wouldn't be any good at it. I thought back to the teachers in my
school who couldn't control the class and thought, "Yep, that would be
me". The dreadful thing was the teachers who were in that situation
were dubbed 'floating teachers' and simply covered when other
members of staff were away. There was one guy who was into
amateur dramatics, the kids found out and used to down tools and
refuse to do any work until he sang for them! As I remember the kids
wound these teachers up in part because the 'floating teachers' made
promises the kids knew they wouldn't keep. They would tell miscreants
"If you do such and such I'll tell the headmaster" and the kids would just
go "Yeah, right."
The other irony in all this is that I was a good all-rounder at school (for
that read 'spod') and so was spoilt for choice when it came to 'A' level
choices. I chose science subjects because I thought there were better
career prospects!
For me, there was a great contrast between school and uni. The
difference was chiefly one of respect. When I first arrived in Bristol, I
thought "Why is everyone being nice to me?". I still don't fully appreciate
why this was, but attributed it in part to growing up in suburban London,
which I think has a dehumanising effect. I have made this point to some
people and they've regarded it with scepticism, but I still think there's
truth in it. It can be measured by how many people thank the driver when
they get off a bus. In London, no-one does, in Oxford its about half and
half and in Bristol it is pretty well everyone.
I wonder what other people's experiences of this sort of thing are?
Certainly a Glaswegian guy I met in Bristol contrasted the Glasgow
Underground with the London one (on the former strangers speak to
each other and on the latter its very rare for this to happen).
Mark.
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Could we please not loose sight of what this mailing list is supposed to
be used for?
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Hoorah! fo jon g. for being a hero and typing up the words to the
indescribably lovely Wrong Love....
But having listened to the thing non-stop for three days, I was
surprised to find I'd got a different interpretation: I thought it
was '... the wrong eyes to go searching behind', rather than blind.
A small point, but still...
...In fact listening to it again on me walkman, I still think it is.
Anyone else care to hazard a guess?
Nick M.
... largely silent but loving everyone anyway....
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And the sad part is.....
You do my world the world of good
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Jon G., there is absolutely nothing wrong with gaps between songs in
live shows. Far better than the alternative, anyway. Everything merging
seamlessly into one in a shambolic fashion, confusing the uninitiated and
denying an appreciative audience the opportunity to punctuate the set
with rounds of applause, loud whoops etc.
I have read reviews describing gigs where the singer tells long stories
between songs and they are usually derogative about that. I think I'd be
pretty miffed by this - unless they were incredibly witty of course.
Sorry, did I miss something? There was a power cut here, the room was
plunged into darkness and the computers fell silent (I work in a big open
plan offic). Everyone was commenting about how quiet it was. But
maybe we need the constant hum of IT equipment to keep us all awake.
Chris Leonard, I love your play! Wish I had an imagination like that. Wow!
I have no idea how many copies IYFS has sold but HMV in Oxford had
marked it under BEST SELLERS.
Does anyone know how it is decided which new releases are displayed
in the windows of record stores? Is it done at a branch or national level
in the case of the larger chain stores? After all, there must be hundreds
of new releases each week and is it purely a matter of corporate clout?
you may say 'it's not important' but I would beg to differ- whether or not a
new band gets its single/album in the window of a high street store must
make a substantial differnce to how well their work sells.
and
why do lyrics of songs on albums differ so much from those in the
sleevenotes/inlay card/ um, er bookletnotes (?) . I daresay this has got
something to do with issues of copyright etc that I don't pretend to
understand (re Radiohead's 'lyrics by permission even though we wrote
them' on 'OK Computer') . IYFS has examples of this e.g. in Get Me Away
from Here I'm Dying
'washing against the lonely tenement' is printed 'falling' is sung.
I do appreciate that it can be the band being deliberately perverse in
some cases eg 'Baby I am no futurist etc' for Pavement's 'Type Slowly'
on Brighten the Corners. And I'm sure we can all think of examples of
fragments of lyrics appearing rather than the whole song (eg every song
on Belly's 'Star' album).
Mark
(who has no desire to flame anyone and presumably is consigned to
walk the streets eternally with 'boring' tatooed on his forehead as a
result!).
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I'm hope I'm not offending any Scousers with that subject title.
I enjoyed Katrina's impassioned plea. Deep breaths are required all round,
and then we can start again. How about listening to some - hey! - B and S
to calm down? Now that's an idea.
Why is everybody so irritable right now? It could be the weather. I blame
Al Nino. There are just two problems we need to solve.
a. No one should abuse anyone else.
b. If you are abused, made fun of, ignored for a while, don't get so upset.
It's life. It happens. I'm sure Mary Jo, Judy, Lisa, Jane, Jo, and even
lovely Belle get pissed off sometimes. We just have to learn to deal with
it.
Lots of love to each and every one of you
DAVID not-ruth
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