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Re: Sinister: 3...6...9 seconds of light
by iles＠boreas.leeds.icnet.uk 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

>------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:31:04 -0000 >From: "jon g." <jon.g(a)BTInternet.com> >Subject: Re: Sinister: 3...6...9 seconds of light > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Katrina Shepherd <alkl6163(a)emirates.net.ae> >To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> >Date: 25 March 1998 23:28 >Subject: Sinister: 3...6...9 seconds of light > > >>can anyone tell me what 'le pastie de la bourgeoisie' means? i've tried to >>look it up but i still have absolutly no idea please help me! it's so >annoying! >> love katrina >> >Katie, dear, it literally means the 'Pastie' (an alcoholic beverage popular >in France) of the upper-middle-class, but it really means just like, well, >you know, the upper class scum stuff type thing. > Are you sure? I was under the impression that it was supposed to be a mishearing of "L'apathie de la bourgeoisie" meaning "The apathy of the middle classes". Anyone else? Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles(a)boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Posmodern rock songs
by Ruth McCurry 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

I think it was Keith who put his finger on it when he said that a B and S concert is like actually going to listen to some music rather than being subjected to a heaving mass of sweaty bodies and 150 decibels. If I want that, I can go on the Northern Line. And then jon.g said what's wrong with gaps between songs? Like gaps between teeth, absolutely nothing. I mean, has the Being-at-a-concert-experience become so staid that people get upset if the `rules' are broken? Who says that there should be a gap of approx 20 seconds between songs? If guided by voices can play five songs in a row in 8 minutes with no gap at all, why not have two songs separated by 4 minutes of amiable faffing, mumbling, and wire-plugging. The only possible complaint could be lack of value for money, but I've never felt short-changed by B and S, even after forking out for a flight to Spain. Perhaps pop music needs to mature a bit. It's only 40 years old, after all. I just think it's frustrating that there's such a lack of experimentation with the live medium. Plenty of bands experiment with the actual material of music (you know, texas, del amitri, sleeper), but hardly anyone puts any thought into how they present it to their audience. I'm not suggesting that B and S are deliberately experimenting, they may just be alarmingly incompetent, but what the hell? It's still wildly more interesting than going to a thousand concerts by montrose avenue, morrissey, cornershop or whoever. Perhaps I should try `dance' music. But drugs are cheating... I recall seeing James in London in 1984, and they came on at the beginning, sat in a circle on the stage, played 6 acoustic folk songs, then went off. They were followed by an appalling Japanese synthesiser duo. Then James came back and played an hour of normal stuff, and invited everyone on to the stage at the end to sing Hymn from a village. They might suck now, but that was a good night's entertainment by anyone's standards. Anyone have any suggestions as to how the concert experience could be developed? Lots of love, have a good weekend, DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: By Royal Appointment
by Adrian Evans 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth version 2, has just driven her Right Royal Roller past my office on Topsham Road, Exeter. What a nice lady...??? And guess what, she had her sunroof down and was blasting out Belle and Sebastian on her car stereo and she was singing along to Lazy Line Painter Jane and was letting go of the wheel and clapping her hands on the bit where they like, clap their hands, and swerving all over Topsham Road singing.."In the mud on your knees..GOSH !!! Frightful What ?. And the Duke of Edinburgh pretended he wasn't there and that he was orf presenting some of his awards or something, but really he was lying on the floor with an empty gin bottle singing "I will have some boys tonight" probably. And I'd like to say look out for me on BBC Spotlight South-West tonight, I'm the one itching my G's, but you don't all live in the South-West of England and the cameras weren't there anyway so I didn't bother going to wave cos she's a cow. I'll get my coat and take my pills now. Adrian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: love before hate, age before beauty, swine before pearls
by Hopkins T 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Lots of threads all making the same sort of sense to me...mind if I try to weave them together just a little? When I was sixteen, I was totally in love with pop and pop possibilities. At that time of my l found myself able to invent and reinvent myself as an individual, to build myself as an adult (OK, I may have failed...) and was thrillled by the possibilities. For those possibilities to mean anything, it is/was absolutely necessary to draw lines about what's wrong and right, or I'd never have worked out why it was important to take a stand against what's wrong and what's ugly in the world. The world is a fucked up place and pop music, which in itself is a little backwater of capital, is never going to change that. But when I was sixteen, pop music helped me understand that, while beauty will not make the pot boil, the urge to express yourself, to aim towards some sort of radical beauty, is a positive one. That view continues to inform what I do and how I look at the world. And the economics of pop at the time: struggling to get 1000 copies of a 7" single out, labels necessarily acting as little capitalists, stays with me as a great example of how it is impossible to escape from capital in this society, but capital can be turned against itself, its structures can be used to communicate, to make people feel and think and sometimes believe. I certainly didn't need to be told that the bands I was listening to (and the Jasmine Minks are a great example) were special, because I knew they were. Frankly, I'd probably have been a bit put off if some old groaner like the 28 year-old me had come and started to try to impress upon me how lucky I was. I only loved a small number of pop groups, but for a short time it seemed they could do anything, go anywhere...such a sense of possibility. And it's that sense of possibility which Belle and Sebasian inspire in me. Me and the duke sometimes talk of how all true pop music pertains in some way to the state of being sixteen, to the (often painful) excited confusion of not really knowing what's coming around the corner, and loving it. Don't know if I've succeeded in being relevant to anything, or whether list veterans will have groaned and gone to sleep yet. And don't much care. For anyone still awake, try singing 'I could be Dreaming' along with '(My Baby Does) Good Sculptures' by the Rezillos. Extraordinary. timh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: to Chris Hall
by Jose Maria Sagúillo (hijo) 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

I'm out of my home town, I'm working in another city (a wonderfull city), please write me an e-mail. IMCEAEX-_O=GONVARRI_OU=CGT_CN=RECIPIENTS_CN=SAGUILLO+5FJH(a)gestamp.es ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Two Arms Two Legs and a Head
by Adrian Evans 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Windy Peephole Miller wrote : >Subject: RE: Sinister: Seeing Other People's >Christopher Alexander Leonard revealed: >>I went to a public toilet the other day. I was standing at the urinal taking >>care of the matter in hand, and two urinals along there was an old jakey >>bloke taking care of his matter in hand >Thank you Christopher. This is the kind of thing I'd like to see more of on >the list. How about if every member of the list goes to their nearest public >lavatory and waits around until something interesting happens? Don't worry >if you're shy, some of them have helpful little peepholes drilled in the >doors so no one will know that you're there. If we all do this I'm sure the >results will put the PE / Big Tackle thread in the shade. In the likely >event of seeing someone "at it" the lucky listee should burst out of their >hiding place (if they have chosen to go undercover) and award the person in >question a Crackerjack pencil and ask them what is the Meaning of True Pop. >That way we can all kill two birds with one stone:- we get a toilet-related >anecdote and another piece to put in the Great Pop Jigsaw to boot. Hey >presto! I knew a bloke who went to Nigeria to live in January. For some reason he thought it would be some sort of milestone to use every public toilet in Exeter in the seated position in the weeks preceding his departure. A truly remarkable feat only just managed when he enlisted my help to ensure there were none he had missed....that is to say any public toilets he missed rather than he missed the bowl. I guess that's what you call a big job well done. God I'm old enough to know better. Adrian. -- ******************************************************************** "Yes there is a Santa Claus, and anyone who blasphemes against Santa or any of his helpers shall DIE!!" Jimmy Tarbuck. ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: HAPPY BOB'S DAY!
by jon g. 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

HAPPY BOB'S DAY!!! I think I need to get out of the house more jon g. jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: someone's gonna get killed
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

once again, i make use of the song i'm listening to to pick a topic. don't worry, not feeling unduly homicidal today, i just thought you lot would be missing my charming posts. and yes, they *are* charming dammit! anyway, first off i've got some ink polaroids: *this one's a little dark cause it was taken at the ivy show last night and the lighting wasn't very good. the three of us in the foreground and laurel, michele and myself. laurel and michele have just met and are speaking rather animatedly. i'm motioning off to the side for brian to come over. he's sitting in the corner, talking to heidi (his roommate who isn't on the list). i'm trying to get him to meet michele, though he's never spoken to him in chat. *here's a picture of me and laurel and ben. ben is looking fairly animated cause he's talking with the "lads" about "football" at a "pub". laurel and i are kind of bored off in the corner, and trying to amuse one another with fascinating tidbits. we're so close to one another cause there weren't enough chairs, and we're sharing one. she's also sort of sharing with ben, so it's pretty squishy. you may notice that our nails are painted the same sparkly blue. that's cause we were at my room earlier and gossiping and painting our nails. we both wanted the same polish, so we match. *the last picture for today is taken at the time cafe. brian, john (another intern) and i were working. john's the goth boy next to me who laurel said was too cool, but he's really just a sillyhead like us. laurel and ben are off to the side. we're all sort of falling over the table, especially me cause it's been a rough first day after spring break. the mostly empty plates are the remains of our dinner, which laurel is sort of eating off of cause she's really going to eat with ben, but sort of hungry right now. laurel, ben, and john are giving a knowing smile cause brian and i are bickering across the table as usual. but we all look rather amused with the whole situation. so that will have to satisfy for now. however, there are upcoming meetings with rach and dina this weekend, so you lot will be favored with more charming polaroids as the listees begin to come together. also, about all this bitching, i dont' see the point. paul is a wonderful list owner, and a lovely honey and we should all send him kisses by express mail. for no particular reason, just cause he's such a cutiepie (as amanda will surely verify with "proof" soon) and it's always fun to send letters. and of course the list will get bitchy at times, there are over 500 people, and some are bound to be poopieheads. but when i think of all the loverly, marvelous people here, i get all happy. plus i know how to use my delete button and do, often. sure some postings are dull to some people, i particularly don't care at all for music history, but oh well. there are plenty of lovely posts from the known posters whose writings i look for, and others by new listees who are quite amusing. so really, i don't see the point of worrying. oh, one more thing, i expect more ink polaroids of the kids meeting up in london this weekend!!! and for those listees who are new or a little shy, please post and come to the meet ups. they're happening all over the world (on two continents at least) and i know that we aren't cliquish people and always ready to meet new and lovely belle and sebastian fans! xox megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: calvin you stinkhead
by MWaggner 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

RIGHT ON SARAH!!! As long as there are people who believe they can change the world in a positive way and take some action to do so -- whether you agree with their stand or not -- then here is hope for us all. Trite perhaps, but true. -- michele "Do something pretty while you can..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The heat is On.
by Adrian Evans 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Jeezlaweez.. I cannae believe some of the shit I've just read on the last couple of digests. Perhaps a method of lessening the tension on the list and a new direction of conversation would be for listees to mail in things that they don't like about themselves rather than slagging others orf. Certainly attacks on people based purely on nationality are both unnecessary and unintelligent. Anyways... >Jon Wren wrote : >God, I'm gonna be a trainee teacher in Exeter from October! What do they put >in the water down there? We don't have clean running water yet Jon, and yet surprisingly some of the highest water rates in the country. Electricity and Gas are still someway off in the future. >Again, that was a joke and in no way meant as an attack upon the >bumpki..sorry, citizens of the South West of which I have a great affection >for and will be coming to live with along with all relevant farmyard >equipment and sheep. Thank you and good night. You can call us bumpkins...we don't mind my luvver. Well Alistair might mind, he sounds a bit more intelligent than your average Devonian. He knows some eight letter words for a start. Have a wonderful evening all. Adrian.x.x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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