Hello,
Just a little note to say that some of us are meeting at 8 o'clock
(p.m.) on Thursday at the Good Mixer, so anyone who fancies meeting up
for a drink and/or going to see Libido afterwards (Norwegian group -
I've never heard them, but Elisabeth Z speaks highly) should be there
then.
Love
Tag, a cockney sparrer for a week
Miss Hoover, my face is on fire
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From: Olafia Svansdottir
To: 'Belle and Sebastian'
Subject: what goes on in iceland
Date: Monday, 12 January, 1998 2:33PM
At long last Belle & Sebastian have arrived to Iceland, So all of you
Icelandic fans can stop worrying (all two of us:me and my boyfriend).We
heard them on a radioshow this weekend and one of their album(yes only
one copy) i saw in a store ( i made my friend buy the other one!). On
this radioshow they played Seymour Stein, Sleep around the clock and
slow graffiti
Something all of you have probably heard thousand times, but it was the
first time for us.
And you know what? The dj even mentioned you guys-he said that people
on the internet were talking about how they cried their eyes out every
time they listened to B&S, which is kind of true-right? There was a spy
among us!!! This has helped us pass the time while we're waiting for
our 8-369seconds,8-dog on wheels
order from David which should arrive anyminuite now(was that the doorbell?)
(a little story- not a very interesting one,but what the hell) We
first heard B&S on alternative nation this summer, and when we went to
London we ( i'm using this" we" an awfull lot aint i)bought IYFS and
LLPJ- that evening we(here i go again) came tired to our b&b only to
read in london time out magazine that B&S were having a
consert that same night in the Union chapel- which we had absolutly no
idea where was and saw no chance of getting there, then for the sake
of comfort we decided that it was sold out. We spent that night in Sega world.
p.s.Pam: Orvar wants to tell you that he is sorry he hasnt sent you
the tape yet
but it's on the way.Ok
Olla...and a
little bit Orvar
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This is my review of the Sunday night Manchester gigs, which will be
published in the SU newspaper here later this week. It's a little old and
stale now but I thought you might like to see it.
> Belle and Sebastian, Manchester Town Hall, 28/12/97
>
> "Take a second of the day and think of all the things which we have done
> this year..."
>
> I know you've heard twice as many end-of-year summaries than a sane person
> could reasonably stomach by now, but this was, simply, the coolest thing.
> Belle and Sebastian, the pop group whose music has wrapped itself around
> my year like fine bacon around a Christmas sausage, winding up 1997 with a
> Classic Pop Event.
> Among the many and various reasons I love Belle and Sebastian is the fact
> that they are scrupulous in their insistence on doing things differently.
> They seem to be able to exist effortlessly outside the tedious
> restrictions of established pop method, to be completely different to
> their crass contemporaries.
> So there are three concerts in two days, including a matinee performance.
> The gigs are held in the Victorian gothic splendour of Manchester Town
> Hall (the most unusual venue I've seen since Belle and Sebastian played in
> an octagonal church in London this summer...). The stage, bizarrely, is
> C-shaped, meaning that at no point could any individual see the whole
> band, who swapped places for each song. And I had no chance of inspecting
> keyboard player Wee Chris's reported penchant for outrageous flared loons.
> Most unusual of all, this is no slick pop spectacular. There are gaps
> between the songs as a result of the stage layout or technical problems,
> (one very lengthy one was due to some unspecified cello catastrophe),
> filled with embarrassed comments or ad-hoc songs. Stevie demonstrated how
> the guitar figure in the classic 'La Pastie De La Bourgeoisie' bore a
> shocking resemblance to the theme from 'Emmerdale', and treated us to a
> special rendition of Manchester's most famous contribution to pop history:
> 'Matchstalk Men And Matchstalk Cats And Dogs'. Some of the above
> displeased some of the capacity crowd, unhappy that the unwritten rules of
> rock and roll were being so blatantly flouted.
> I loved it.
> I love them for the fact they don't feel the need to put on a bland
> standard show. I love them for the fact that they put themselves in
> unusual and difficult situations, as much to see what happens as anything.
> I love them because they seem to be standing alone in consistently taking
> chances in a way that none of the nominees for Brat awards could ever
> understand.
> And I love them because, as someone wise once said, they sound fucking
> brilliant. Song after beautiful song, they reminded me why I adore their
> records and made me all excited because the new songs sounded fresher,
> more exciting, better still. Belle and Sebastian have a new LP out in the
> springtime. If songs like 'Seymour Stein' and 'Loneliness Of The Middle
> Distance Runner' are anything to go by, it's going to be fantastic.
> Really. No pop band of the moment has such a fine grasp of pop perfection,
> even down to the immaculate choice of cover versions. 'Reel Around The
> Fountain' in March, this time 'In A Nutshell' the best song from the first
> Orange Juice LP, a copper bottomed classic rendered, if anything, more
> beautiful, shimmering and fragile than the original.
> Of course, a professional journalist would be compelled to tell you of
> weak points and faults (indeed, one well-known and far-too-old inky scribe
> was reported to be ostentatiously parading his contempt for the band
> during the matinee). I could, and can, see none. For the first time in
> ages, I am too far gone, head over heels to have any kind of rational
> perspective. Isn't that great?
> Ordinarily, I would be warning you to catch up with Belle And Sebastian
> before it is too late. True to form, they confound the ordinary. They seem
> to be continuing upwards and onwards, each new song a new way to wring
> emotional reactions from me and god knows how many others in a rainy
> Manchester.
> A fantastic night. Lots of good friends and me, all together for the
> pleasure of seeing the best pop group in the whole world. And the pleasure
> of dreaming of the new LP, as good a reason for looking forward to 1998 as
> any.
>
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First things first...
I am new to the B&S list, subscribe to the digest form, and have been
loving IYFS for about six months. I am into many many other bands who I
won't bore you with listing here, but I will slide in Pulp because I think
many from lipgloss are on this as well.
So my cliched, yet important- to -me -so- don't -slam me -'cos- I- need -to
-know questions:
Is 'Tigermilk' going to be re-released as I have heard? If not, could
somebody make me a copy?
What was the talk of posters? Is there an IYFS poster available? I would
love to frame it, as I consider it a work of art.
weell....thats all for now.
thanks
todd
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could the duo everyone is debating be pet shop boys? they are usually prolific enough to have two LPs in one year.... just a thought...
jennifer
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From: D.J. Frazer <djf9(a)leicester.ac.uk>
To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 6:28 AM
Subject: Sinister: Re:Pop Quiz
The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 - the only duos I
can think of are Wham, Simon & Garfunkel, Tears for Fears, Foster & Allen (only
joking), Sam & Dave, The Eurythmics, Bros(joking again).
Any of these suggestion correct I wonder?
Hope this helps in the quest,
Daniel.
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Dear loverly Sinister personnes,
I have just found out something I'm sure you all knew! *sob sob sob*
And on top of that,it is back to school tomorrow,after a nice long break,and
then school was cancelled for a week...and now...Madame Boisclair...she will
be waiting for me......and my feet are cold...
>On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Bramleys wrote:
>
>> Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all
>the boys to Sebastian.
Genevieve Belle David...it could've been...but is no longer.....
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:08:37 -0500 (EST)
>From: Laurel Girvan <lgirva13(a)calvin.edu>
>Subject: Re: Sinister: ooh! sex appeal!
>
>ok genevieve, i've gotta deal for you: you take stu david to the prom,
>i'll bring stuart evans, then you can have geneva *live* at the prom!!
>
>love,
>laurel
but...he's.....married..................
nooooooo nonnnnnnnn noooo,he's such a little pookie bear.
it is a fantastique idea though...I think I should just pile the limo full
of prom dates (it IS at the Chateau Laurier,classy classy..)
So Stuart David is still my prom date..but Anthony Reynolds,Brett
Anderson,Neil Codling,Simon Stafford,Colin Greenwood and Neil Hannon get to
sit there and look pretty, along with saucy stuart evans and the lovely laurel.
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:19:01 +0000
>From: ".j 0n" <geoff.burgerman4(a)virgin.net>
>Subject: Sinister: photo jonny
>
>anyone wants pics from
>the manc. sat gig.. ?
>
>.j 0n
YES!
>The brilliance of this recording to me is down to Nick McCabe's gorgeous
>darkly textured guitar and the general soundscapes brought upon by the
>production, which I think owes a lot to him, and less to the much lauded
>songwriter sex symbol (mad) Richard Ashcroft. Emotions I think of are
>oceans, flying, darkness, isolation and in some way sheer survival. Oh god
>this sounds like and undergraduate record review
Oh but it is a beautiful album...On Your Own..specially the 'all I want is
someone who can fill the hole of the life i know' bit and 'Drive You Home',
in fact I listened to Drive You Home before I went to sleep last
night....have to have a song to sleep to..the Longpigs secret song is like a
lullably...
Some on here mentioned Momus...? I've been trying to get the Jaques/Momus
'How To Make Love' cd...Jaques is the alter ego of Jack.....and Jack are
lovely....
kisses 'n hugs
Geneviev
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In a message dated 1/13/98 6:56:08 AM, you wrote:
<<As for this bootlegging thing - I've got a friend who's offered to record
my tape of Tigermilk onto CD for me. The thing is, it's not a brilliant
quality tape as it is, so I'd still buy it if it was ever released on CD;
the only difference to having it on tape is that you can pick out the
tracks you want at that time etc. >>
A friend of mine is going to burn a CD for Tigermilk for me too. I prefer
vinyl then cd's and tapes a distant third. Since I don't own the LP and I
hate tapes, he's burning my tape copy onto a disc for me to listen too.
Pete
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I remember how angry I was last autumn when this whole bootlegging Tigermilk thingy started. Parachute wanted a CDROM so he could listen to Tigermilk. Jeepster reponded (with a great lack of political couth in my humble opinion) threatening legal action against anyone who tried to produce a CD copy which in a way was strange because Jeepster does not even own the recording.
Since then, I have come to be more sympathetic to the Jeepster side as comes to bootlegs. I mean, it's just not right for someone to be stealing their bit of intellectual property and amassing huge profits as a result.
Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass produced from a Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master Tape unless a great deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the sound. Also, cateran on chat made it known that Cdroms, played on a regual CD player which lack the ability to oversample them, sound noticeably infererior (if one is an audiophile).
Now that doesn't mean that someone trying to make money wouldn't be able to peddle these inferior products making and making appreciable profit. Frankly though, I don't think Jeester, Electric Honey, or Belle and Sebastian would be able to do anything to stop it. In effect, the only thing protecting Belle and Sebastian right now is their relative obscurity.
However, it's really unfair to unleash that kind of anger we saw last fall on list members. We are their biggest fans. We're the ones who enjoy most listening to their music. We are the ones who proselytize their music to the world. We are not going to want to screw up B&S's musical careers. Don't make us feel like pariahs.
Matt
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Could the top forty mid-price duo be the Chemical Brothers? Don't have any
of their albums, so don't know what they cost though? And surely Patio Song
by Gorky's got in the top forty - or was that last year...
Mark
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does anyone know of a good place to order some of the singles? looking
around on the web i found a place that has some of them for about 4
pounds each and i didnt know if that was a good price or if anyone knew of
a place in the US that was selling them.
thanks
roberta
**oh you look so tired
mouth slack and wide
ill-housed and ill-advised
your face is as mean as
your life has been
crash into my arms
i want you******
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