My ink Poloroid (some bits re-written in my head during the last 3 weeks or
so).
This scene is from my first day at my new job. Actually, there is a real
poloroid of this somewhere, but that doesn't show the whole picture. The
person behind the rack full of dishes is Charlie, my boss. He's taking a
picture of me mopping the floor, at my mother's request. I think she wants
to get a copy and hang it on the wall, but I sort of hope that she doesn't
get a copy. It's not that I'm embarrassed to have my friends see it, because
they made me take my hat off to work, and my friends don't recognise me
without it. And I don't think my mother could say anything rude about it,
because it proves that I do clean things sometimes. I just don't think it's
a very good picture. Over there, in the kitchen, is my partner, Joe. We
spend all day washing the dishes, but right now he is cutting up vegetables
for the soup. Joe has a pair of headphones on because he can't work with the
restaurant's radio playing in the background. Neither can I. I asked him
what he listened to in there, but he wouldn't tell me. My mom is behind the
counter, and now she looks upset because I noticed Charlie taking my picture,
and turned away from the camera. I think I'll give her this one, instead.
Thank you for reading my ink poloroid! Sorry if I added to the last minute
rush of entries filling up your mailbox right now.
--Matt (skreddy56(a)aol.com)
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Re: Marks & Sparks.....
Last time I was there, they had branched out
>into Wallace and Gromit socks.
>
>I think that's everything. Anybody else?
>
>Peter
>
Wow....SOCKS!!!!!???? Last time I was there they had Wallace & Gromit bath
stuff with sponges of them on top.....I'm still kicking myself for not
getting them. I decided on the pint of Guinness bath foam......it settles
and everything. They also had Thomas The Tank Engine hat and gloves, but
try as I did....I just could NOT fit the damn hat on my big ole heeeeed.
Why do they always make stuff like that in CHILDREN'S sizes.........If this
was the indiepop list, a woman could get lynched for saying something like
that......whew......I've never turned a table round in M&S...never occured
to...tho I did get a photo of a fruit table with pineapples on, and right
in back of it was the ladies undergarment section....odd....pineapples and
underwear....hum. I got a nice pair of 6 pound socks in the one in
Aberdeen......I had to.....my Chelsea boots sprung a leak and my toes were
*freezing*!!!!!!
xo
beth
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On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, klas.ericsson(a)student.jmg.gu.se (klas ericsson), wrote:
>I don't know how many people noticed the Hal Hartley quote in "I could be
>dreaming", the one from Trust (I think), that goes " A family is like a
>loaded gun, if you point it in the wrong direction...". Has anyone found
>any more Hal Hartley-oriented topics in B&S lyrics. Stuart David mentioned
>him as an inspiration in my interview for the fanzine STATE (which I=B4m
>trying to change to the STATE I am in - of course:-)).
>
>Henry Fool (aka Klas)
Klas, I don't know of any more specific HH references within the lyrics, but
I have noticed some broader connections between the two. As a longtime Hal
Hartley fan (um, please no debates over who's a "real" HH fan! ;-)) I was
thrilled to hear that B&S consider him an inspiration. FYI to everyone,
there's a great HH web page (http://www.best.com/~drumz/Hartley/) and a
mailing list, too. So, here are some connections I've made ..
*** Falling: There's this one B&S photo on the tweenet B&S site
(http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~hahndorf/bas/) that reminds me of HH.
According to the caption, it's of Stuart David and Richard Colburn. RC is
down on the ground in front of a car and SD is crouched next to him. It
looks to me like a scene from a HH film. His films always feature loads of
tripping/falling or down-on-the-ground scenes and Hal has admitted, "I love
people falling down. I've always got my eye out for flat spaces to have
someone fall down on. Empty highways have this almost narcotic attraction
for me."
This shared fondness with falling or having fallen obviously ties into
larger issues that both B&S and HH address, and everything that
falling can represent on an emotional level. The word itself has mixed
connotations because of its use in phrases like "falling in love" and
"falling asleep." Both the image and the concept of someone on the ground
can be pretty ambiguous. Did he trip or was he pushed or did he lower
himself gently to the ground? "Now I'm feeling flat you seem miles away /
I'm so tired that down on the pavement I'll lay / Till the blossom on the
tree comes falling on me / Fall on me" (Dog on wheels)
Both HH films and B&S lyrics address ambiguity. X is not necessarily what
it seems to be. But it's not necessarily Y, either! Neither shies away from
muddled scenarios, nor tries to wrap them up neatly at the end. Hartley says
he's obsessed with "the fumbling attempt to find out what love is, the
constant confusion, the frustration." Part of what draws me to both HH and
B&S is their willingness to examine the messy truth. Obviously, a filmmaker
has more room to do this.
Other connections I've noticed:
*** Religion: HH films and B&S lyrics are full of references to religion.
For example, In HH's "Amateur" one of the main characters is an ex-nun and
part of the film takes place in a convent. In "The Unbelievable Truth,"
Josh is asked again and again, "Are you a priest?" ("No, I'm a mechanic.")
I don't need to point out all the B&S religious references to you Sinister
listees, right? ;-)
*** Self-referentiality: HH often uses the same actors (Donovan, Shelley,
Sillas, et al) or a similar character (the street bum, the ex-con) from film
to film. Of course, In "Flirt" he does his own short film in three different
ways, so I suppose that's a broad form of self-referentiality (hey, is that
even a word?). For B&S, the most obvious example is the way Belle and
Sebastian are characters in songs as well as the name of the band. Also,
things like how in the song "Mary Jo," MJ's reading a book called "The State
That I Am In."
Ok, there's one more connection and it reaallly stretches it, but hey, i
guess that's what this list is for. ;-) Have you all read "Belles
Lettres," the series of B&S-inspired stories on the Tangents E-zine?
(http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/belle_lettres/index.html) Well, when the
narrator is in a classroom with the girl he loves, he gets up and writes on
the whiteboard, "I don't love anyone," and then, beneath it, "Belle And
Sebastian are God." In the great HH film, "Surviving Desire," Jude is in a
classroom with the girl he loves and he gets up and writes on the
blackboard, "Knowing is not enough."
Guess I'll stop rambling on this subject now. I'm enjoying all the stories
about misheard lyrics, so keep them coming. Um, no, I don't need a copy of
Tigermilk; already have it thanks to Stuart Maclean. ;-)
- Nicole
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Here's a night time group shot; I like those the best. Nobody's posed,
of course, but D, Monica, Danie (the girl), Danny (the boy), Jim, Heidi,
Eric, Jim, John, Amy, Rich and Heather are milling about outside the
movie theatre, facing all different directions, facing the sidewalk. If
anybody's talking, they're cautiously attempting to find out if the film
made sense to anyone else. Everyone's relieved to learn that it
didn't. Small consolation was found in the fact that no one had paid to
get it -- that and a walk to the corner for some ice cream. If you look
closely, you'll see the back of my head. I'm already halfway there.
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This is one of me standing outside the Gap in San Francisco waiting for
Susan. I'm wearing a stiff new dress shirt and old jeans I used to think
were too tight. I used to hate wearing tight clothes because I thought
they made me look too skinny. Susan is very fashionable, in both clothes
and lateness. I really like her. I hadn't seen her all summer, and she
called me out of the blue to see Supergrass. I'd barely even heard them
before. I feel plain, unhip, but happy. I see her, and she's wearing
beautiful shoes. After the show, I didn't see her for the rest of the
summer.
Tyson McCreary
tysonm(a)cats.ucsc.edu
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i'm sure we've all had those specific, clarifying moments. they're akin to
when you're traveling up a mountain and your ears begin to get all plugged
up. it's then that you open your mouth and giggle your jaw side to side and
<voila!> you can hear the world in technicolour again.
i had one of those moments the other day. i was listening to "stars of track
and field" and it got to the line, "kissing girls in english at the back of
the stairs." all of a sudden it made sense! they weren't FRENCH kissing!
they were kissing the english way! peck on the cheek?
for some reason the rest of the song seemed to fall into place once i got
past that line. perhaps i'm incorrect (though i don't believe that there's
anything incorrect with anyone's interpretation of song lyrics. it's all so
personal.), but i was very excited when it occurred to me that way.
:)
michelle
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I'm more partial to Oasis now than I ever was. I think it's
because of the Flying V guitar in that video with all the
helicopters. I see no reason why brickkies should or
shouldn't make music, or musicians become brickies.
Communists used to do that as punishment for excess
grooviness. I also think it's OK to nick tunes. There are
only so many ways to make the air vibrate. If you think up
something "new" someone else will immediately copy it and
run off with all the money. And where do you draw the line
between "influenced by" and "ripping off"? It keeps lawyers
in business, I suppose.
[Keith Watson]
Nothing really against brickies, it was more a way of getting across what I meant than singling out Bricklayers for non-music making duties. Again, it's not really the nicking tunes that's the irritating bit - it's a fact that they're crap as far as I can see and that they're all the same - the fact that Noel considers himself one of the worlds greatest ever songwriters and that shitloads of people are currently slapping him on the back and agreeing that rankles a little - I'm also a little sick of people with their arms around Paul Bloody Weller in the NME.
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This is a picture of Charlie and Butterfly Jo sitting in our back yard
last summer. Charlie is on the left wearing my old brown chords
and a wicked grin. Her eyes are fixed on next doors tabby cat who is
perched on Joe's belly, striving to grab Joe's key which he's dangling
from a shoelace. That red shoelace acted as a beacon all year. He'd have lost
that key a thousand times down the side of the sofa or under a pile of old
newspapers had the shoelace not betrayed its resting place. Its funny but
I never did manage to find a way to attract Charlie's gaze.
Chris DM
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What is the closing date for the Ink Paranoids compo?
Thank you muchly,
chris
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I thought the first time I heard the State
"My brother had confessed he was gay and said that he loved me for a while"
I think this is classic. Anyone else hear it like this?
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