October 1997 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: sonic confusion (lyric misinterpretations)
by Ninette 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

Amanda wrote: >That "make a new cult everyday" thing is an easy enough mistake to make >BECAUSE IT IS THE ACTUAL LYRIC. (or at least according to the lyrics in the >CD) >Yeah, I know, I think I really meant to say I heard it as "make a new COAT every day".... >Though I have noticed that sometimes what is sung varies from what is >printed there...like in "Seeing Other People," the line (according to that >lyric sheet) is: "You're going to have to change/ Or your're going to have >to go with girls/ You might be better off/ At least they know what they're >doing." But in the song itself on the album, as well as in the BBC >sessions version, the line sounds like "At least they know where to put >it." Either way, it's still a sort of funny musing. > Yeah, well, they actually DO sing it as "at least they know where to put it". It's especially clear in the Evening session recording I've got on tape, where Seeing Other People is really, really slow (so I couldn't have misheard it this time)! It's funnier this way than on the lyric sheet, I think. Has anyone read the small print beneath the lyrics for Pulp albums? It says, "Please do not read the lyrics while listening to this recording". Maybe that'd be a good idea for B&S...? Bye, Ninette > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: compo
by klas.ericsson＠student.jmg.gu.se 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

This photo from 1989 are of me (Klas) and my three friends, Anders, Anders and Anders. We´re fourteen. I´m the one with brownhair and ishockey haircut (this might be a swedish expression so just think David Bowie as Aladin Sane) standing in the middle, laughing, carrying the blond Anders on my back. As you can see we´re on a train. That train is stuck on the great railway bridge outside Edinburgh. I don´t remember it´s name, but it´s great and red (I think). We´ve been stuck here for three hours. Twenty minutes ago we moved ten meters or so, but now we´re stuck again. It might be at bit strange but we´re having a great time climbing around in the compartment. The old lady by the window are looking very upset as one Anders (the darkhaired one) are on his way out of the train window, hundreds of meters (ok mAybe not but it makes the story better) down are the Firth of forth. The rest of us are laughing. So why are we here in Scotland, alone and only fourteen. Well, as you can see the redhaired Anders, who sits beside the old woman, wears a scoutshirt. Yes, we been to a camp - the Discovery 89. That was ten days ago and after that we visited new found friends in Turriff. The blond Anders was a pretty wild young man, so he had a lot of troubles to get someone who wanted to take him home. But he gave away some playing cards featuring nude women to a boy (who´s name I will not mention) and got somewhere to stay that way. Now we´re on our way home, meeting up with leaders in Edinburg before going to Glasgow and the airport. The reason why I want to share this photo with you is that every time I look at it I get very nostalgic. It just feels like this picture captures the feeling of being young, childish, without any troubling thoughts and looking forward without pessismism. And that´s not the case anymore. ///Klas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Belle and Sebastian at Peel Acres
by oc245d8aff＠colon.net 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

Without wishing to bring up the old DJ chestnut again... John Peel played "A Century of Fakers" on his World Service programme this morning. He said he didn't like it at first, but after six or seven listens he can't stop humming it to himself. He followed it up with some nice "techno rubbish". I just thought you might like to know. People who live in tree houses in the jungle heard it. Peruvian llama herds heard it. Even educated fleas heard it. So hooray for the BBC World Service! Apparently I'm getting paid for doing the wrong translation, so that's OK. I'll believe it when I see it, but still. I'm more partial to Oasis now than I ever was. I think it's because of the Flying V guitar in that video with all the helicopters. I see no reason why brickkies should or shouldn't make music, or musicians become brickies. Communists used to do that as punishment for excess grooviness. I also think it's OK to nick tunes. There are only so many ways to make the air vibrate. If you think up something "new" someone else will immediately copy it and run off with all the money. And where do you draw the line between "influenced by" and "ripping off"? It keeps lawyers in business, I suppose. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: String Band Again (Or)
by Chris Leonard 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

Hello, just a bit about the String Band....I promise not to go on cos I presume most folk on the list won't be interested Here's what I said >Stuart Murdoch's voice occasionally reminds me of the Incredible String >Band. This is initially what attracted me to B & S. Here's what Charlotte Said >> I can't believe my eyes - someone has mentioned the Incredible String >> Band! Completely underrated. I read that they have just reformed and >> are about to play some gigs, believe it or not. >> >> I must admit the connection is not obvious at first sight... nor at >> second sight... er, which B&S songs are you thinking of? I was meaning the *voice* rather than the songs. You know, the fellow out of the String Band with the higher voice (Robin Williamson I think). It strikes me especially in B&S ballads like "The Boy Done Wrong Again". Both have quiet voices, similar accents and a tendency to pronounce "a" as in "say" instead of "cat". Even when I first got "Sinister" the first thing that struck me was that they had a song called "Fox in the Snow", which made me instantly think of the String Band song title "Ducks on a Pond". That's just what I think. The music and the lyrics are totally different, just the voice. Apologies to anyone who doesn't know/care what I'm on about. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: NEW T-SHIRTS AND A CREDIT CARD MACHINE!!!
by David & Katrina 02 Oct '97

02 Oct '97

Yeah, we finally got it all together. So forgiving a few spelling mistakes you can view the new merchandise on a gallery I've made and then use an on-line order form to send the order to us. Everything's ready, we've got hundreds of shirts, records and cd's just sitting here waiting for you. And to those of you who use Credit Card, you can also buy Ink Polaroids from us if you're ordering anything else at the same time. David Kitchen Belle and Sebastian Fan Club. PS: If you'd bookmarked the old merchandise page it's still the same one, or visit it via the link below or from the official site! -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/belleandsebastian.htm mailto:bluesoda@totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: mishearings
by Chris Leonard 02 Oct '97

02 Oct '97

Hello, I always thought in "Seeing Other People" the words "Your kissing your double, your kissing your reflection" were sang instead of "Your kissing your elbow etc.". I thought it was about these skinny long hair boys who go to discos and get stuck into skinny long hair girls who look the same as them. And It got me thinking is it incredibly vain to be attracted to someone who looks like you, or is it worse to think you can do better. I just read that. I know what I mean. Anyway, the person who said the trumpet from "Dog On Wheels" is like "Alone Again Or" by Love is spot on. It sounds like B & S have tried to do the same things with the guitar flurries throughout the song. Stuart Murdoch's voice occasionally reminds me of the Incredible String Band. This is initially what attracted me to B & S. I'm off Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Funny Little Hedgehog
by oc245d8aff＠colon.net 02 Oct '97

02 Oct '97

It's all coming out into the open now, isn't it? I too must confess to a (limited) familiarity with The Incredible String Band. Unfortunately I sold my two CDs quite a while ago. (That's the trouble with selling things, you always regret it in the end. Even if you get 250 smackers for it, you're bound to fritter it away on other loony tunes or nonsense.) I was quite partial to the song "Funny Little Hedgehog", obviously a by-product of a particularly hefty bong session. For reasons beyond the comprehension of mere mortals, this particular area of Spain (or the Basque Country, please yourself) is rife with Incredible String Band albums. I don't know if anyone actually buys them. There's loads and loads of them. Can't say they remind me much of Belle and Sebastian, but you never know what's around the corner. Just how many people on this list have got wierd beards? Can I have a free rant? Thank you. I've just spent the entire afternoon translating some crap about clothes, including the phrase; "...blah blah blah...will offer proven and timeless styles that every woman desires and wears. In a nutshell (note nifty Orange Juice reference), indispensible clothes that never become unfashionable...." As if that wasn't traumatic enough, I get home to a mumbled message on the answerphone telling me that it's the wrong bloody document after all! What do I do? Go round and punch his lights out? Get pissed? Honestly, I don't know what the world is coming to. Sorry about that, but I had to get it off my chest, and there's no-one else in the house. Should any of you come across the Cottonfield Basic Line range of boring and practical clothing, BURN IT! Knitwear!!! what a stupid word! This should also answer Keith's question as to what I'm doing in Spain. Translating the wrong bloody document, that's what I'm doing. At least today. Other days I'm either an unemployed layabout or a struggling artist. Depends how you want to look at it. And belated thanks to Charlotte for the Taggart information. Yes, I did go to that famous seat of learning perched atop Gilmorehill. It earned me the right to translate the wrong documents. I voted for Winnie Mandela. I saw Taggart outside a tube station once. He looked just as miserable as he does on the telly. I'm not bloody surprised. Now I have to translate a contract about a mystery product that must be sold from a white cupboard. I kid you not. Although I'm moaning I'm quite happy underneath it all, because it's bloody difficult to get translation work. Ironically, the bosses tend not to trust beginners. I'm desperately trying to think of something B&S related...they've been removed from their prominent display position in my local record emporium. I don't know where they've put them all, because they won't fit in the racks for all the Incredible String Band goodies. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: mishearings
by barzy＠networkmags.com 02 Oct '97

02 Oct '97

>Anyway, the person who said the trumpet from "Dog On Wheels" is like >"Alone Again Or" by Love is spot on. It sounds like B & S have tried to >do the same things with the guitar flurries throughout the song. > That bit's always reminded me of the theme from Hawaii Five-o.........but perhaps....that's just me.... California dreamin' beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re[2]: Sinister: mishearings
by Charlotte.Hall＠smlawpub.co.uk 02 Oct '97

02 Oct '97

hello, I can't believe my eyes - someone has mentioned the Incredible String Band! Completely underrated. I read that they have just reformed and are about to play some gigs, believe it or not. I must admit the connection is not obvious at first sight... nor at second sight... er, which B&S songs are you thinking of? B&S mishearings: I thought the line in "My Wandering Days are Over" was "sex my son, de Winter's gone" and was a reference to a priest's hopeless adulation for a black and white film character. Actually that is a complete and utter lie. But I laughed. (Vacuous Thursday afternoons...) C ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sinister: mishearings Author: Chris Leonard <cleonard(a)MURRAYJ.COM> at ~ITPS-INTERNET Date: 02/10/97 03:24 Hello, I always thought in "Seeing Other People" the words "Your kissing your double, your kissing your reflection" were sang instead of "Your kissing your elbow etc.". I thought it was about these skinny long hair boys who go to discos and get stuck into skinny long hair girls who look the same as them. And It got me thinking is it incredibly vain to be attracted to someone who looks like you, or is it worse to think you can do better. I just read that. I know what I mean. Anyway, the person who said the trumpet from "Dog On Wheels" is like "Alone Again Or" by Love is spot on. It sounds like B & S have tried to do the same things with the guitar flurries throughout the song. Stuart Murdoch's voice occasionally reminds me of the Incredible String Band. This is initially what attracted me to B & S. I'm off Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: mishearings
by Keith Watson 02 Oct '97

02 Oct '97

Anyway, the person who said the trumpet from "Dog On Wheels" is like "Alone Again Or" by Love is spot on. It sounds like B & S have tried to do the same things with the guitar flurries throughout the song. [Keith Watson] Well that's got to be Mick well and truly praised then (Stuart told him to "Play like Love" on Dog on Wheels), although I'd say the song was more like "A House is not a Motel", at least in passing. I actually like Dog on Wheels generally more than Love myself, despite liking Forever changes a lot. Ooooo... I've just spotted a cracking quote from Simon Price in this weeks Melody Maker: "Oasis let us head the inarticulate speech of their hearts. Anyone who calls their music dumb is closer to another truth altogether, because theirs is the expression of all the things that can't be expressed" There's quite a lot of folk banging on about Oasis in the press at the moment - I feel a bit left out, I generally most of the time agree with the general press opinion, and times when I've disagreed with them I've invariably come around, but I just don't get Oasis at all, is it me, or are they really something more than just a bunch of brickies writing turgid tunes that are invariably copped off of other people - am I wrong in thinking that almost all of their songs sound exactly the same? Anyway, back to the grindstone. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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