October 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Fat Is as Fat Does ( with apologies to the Butcher Boy)
by Ihamilt＠aol.com 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

nd my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so > >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. Ok - Im a huge Belle and Sebastian fan inevery sense of the word. it appears that a couple of people have a problem with this. I have a couple of points to make. 1. Being fat does not equal stupid. Stereotyping people however does. 2. Being fat does not equal lazy. if that was the case i wouldnt have hauled my carcass round the country to see Belle and Sebastian 4 times recently. 3. America does indeed have lots of stupid people. Then again so does Britian. Petty nationalistic assumption s however are always stupid. Im off to eat all the pies ( quiche pies, i am a vegetarian you know) Bye Iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: you make me feel uncomfortable,and i like that,i need that
by Matt Hayes 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

>How about 'The boy with the Quorn in his side', a favourite with the >vegetarians amongst us I'm sure. when i was in sweden, i saw this graffiti that read and i apologise if the spelling is wrong "kott ar mord" which translates exactly to meat is murder. so i took a photo. around the corner from where i live in leeds, "love is just a miserable lie" is written on a wall in foot high letters. i have a photo of that too. b&s not included sorry interesting information not included either feel like death. hungover, hot computer lab, sweating like you would not believe. you probably know how it is. love matthew. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Belle?Zine
by Jordi Trenzano Vilar 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

Spanish B&S Zine requires your help. I would thank anything that you would send me, pictures, reviews, articles, poetry, anything....... Write: Jordi Trenzano i Vilar FANZINE "Segundos de Luz" 0291942a01(a)abonados.cplus.es +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You can stick Bob Geldof up your arse!
by Funkyseb＠aol.com 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

Hello kids, What a long, tiring filthy city day that was. I spent the afternoon protesting outside Capital Radio, but it wasn't cathartic. I thought after a good scream I'd feel better, but I just feel trampled. I feel as if I've been shouting against a hurricane. What's the fucking point, eh? Some people are on top, others aren't. We're not put here to fight battles- just to contain the losses. Jake wrote: lots of opinions that made lots of people shout at him. Well, that's probably all over, so I won't comment. But it does raise the question; what do you americans do instead of going to the pub? I mean, you have to be over 21 generally to buy booze, and even then, there aren't any pubs as such...I can't comprehend a world without pubs. I don't think that makes us brits (ugh! nasty word) steaming alkies. The pub is essential whether you drink or not. It's a second home. It's comfy, and lovely, and a bit knackered, but still home.Just think- It's pissing with rain, and you're clutching your shopping, and you've just filled your boots with oily water, and suddenly an old friend appears on the horizon- windows steamed up and lit up brightly, sending woozy reflections spilling over the wet pavement....magic. Mind you, you don't have pints either, do you? Or bitter? Pah! No wonder so many americans appear on Ricki Lake- I think I'd be pretty fucked up too. << Also, do y'all think that the "State I Am In" from Tigermilk is kind of weak compared to the rest of the album, especially considering how great it came out for the EP? >> Wow! You're the first person I've *ever* heard say this. You're entirely wrong, as it happens. :-) The State I'm in, the Tigerrrrmilk version, is soft, tender, chiming, layered, beautifully arranged, with guitars that make me curl into a ball everytime I hear them. It's achingly beautiful. I can't think of anything as good as this version of this song, ever.It is quite simply, the most beautiful song of all time. (IMHFO) The Dog on Wheels version sounds like a passionless dirge, with flat, naked production. It sounds like it was performed in a workman like way by crappy session musos.. Because it was.Save for the boy stuart, Belle and Sebastian were not in the building on that occasion, as it says in the sleeve notes. Mind you, why am I posting this? I'm not going to change your mind, and I don't much care if I do either. I couldn't give a fuck to be quite honest, and I'm sure none of you could either. Why am I still doing this? seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: valley advocate TBWTAS review
by kerry lannert 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

the valley advocate here in western mass has a review of twattybus in this week's issue. here it is (please pardon my typing errors): Cry With These Words: belle and sebastian will break your heart if given the chance by joshua westlund belle and sebastain are glasgow's masters of inconcspicuous chic -- that unassuming, delicate, obsessively self-conscious, white middle-class indie rock art of looking cool whie trying not to look like you're trying to look cool. their songs all sound the same, regretlessly, even gleefully: cheery major chords (strummed ever so gently) lope about, breezy moogs gurlge and chirp, bagpipes hum majestic melodies, and other obscure, barely audible instruments meander as they please, adding slight minimal flourishes over main singer/songwriter sturat murdoch's creamy croon. it's ever so pastoral, chip[per and catchy -- "good vibrations" set in scotland's vibrant, verdant highlands. since releasing their debut, tigermilk, belle and sebastian hve become avatars of indie rock's most hallowed tradition: playing hard to get. tigermilk was limited to 500 vinyl copies, and the band has since released several other similarly obsucre EPs and singles -- prompting fans to hoard, obsess and spend exorbitant amounts of cash (an original copy of tigermilk recently sold for about $1,000 at an auction). and belle and sebastian not only demand devotion from their fans, they're also smugly self-awre of their talkent that they can't help but point it out in their songs while winking and smirking about their deliberate marginality. "nobody writes them like they used to -- so it may as well be me," murdoch observes on "get ma way from here, i'm dying" from last year's spellbinding if yo'ure feeling sinister, which marks the beginning of murdoch's obsession with the idea that fame is the same thing as heartbreak. joking about the band's photogeneity and catchy tunes, he observes, "we don't stand a chance" of making it. but the joke, of course, is that they do and will -- and murdoch knows it. so after making a vaguely embarrassing confession ("i always cry at endings") he goes on to do battle with the well-worn cliche about ens and swords, concluding, "i could kill you, sure, but i could only make you cry with these words." only make you cry? only? it's belle and sebastian's most powerful moment. the punning and mok self-effacement are brilliant, sure, but the sentiment is what makes the song a killer. it's a loe song about love songs, yet it never gets mired in its own cleverness. unless you're a goon or a chump, your tears should be welling up -- despite not having a bloody clue what it is you should be crying about. the boy with the arab strap continues murdoch's evasive courtship with fame. when murdoch sings about a brilliant painter (reprising a character from an earlier single) who suffers from a stroke at the age of 24 (presumably aused by the stress of her newfound fame), it's hard not to see the song as somehow about the band itself. murdoch notes that "her paintings are a sham, and they're going for . . ." -- what else? -- "a grand." then he phrases a rhetorical question like a passive/aggressive threat: "when the dealers come to view do they ever see the real you?" of course they don't. the sham murdoch exposes here is that his songs don't show himself; he inists that he can write confessional songs while mainaining his privacy. faced with the weight of pop history, murdoch's biggest conundrum seems to be that he can't decide whether to be ironic or sincere. the forefathers of wimp rock -- the beach boys, the beatles, nick drake -- wrote stark, heartfelt tunes. but murdoch's most perplexing achievement is how he writes off the irony vs. sicerity debate altogether, claiming that wry wit and heartfelt self-expression can work in symbiosis. "chickfactor" references a hipster indie pop 'zine of the same name, telling the story of a musician who falls in love with a woman who interview shim. while there's plenty of tabloid sensationalism for the indie snobs (who did the chickfactor interview? was there really a romance? if not, will there be?), the silly intrascene schtick doesn't overshadow the song's gloomy hypothesis about superficiality and love. "seymour stein" treats a missed dinner date with sire records' head honcho as a way to give the middle finger to The Man whle simultaneaously brooding obout love gonw wrong. for murdoch and his crew, fame's calling is insignificant when compared to the power of love. while arab strap is, along with elliott smith's XO, one of the finest pop releases of 1998, it's still not the masterpiece it could have been. the band's turn toward -- gasp! -- seriousness (witnessed in the rather straight-ahead pastoral rambles of "a summer wasting," "ease your feet into the sea" and "simple thigs") is also a turn toward the mundane; the aformentioned tunes should have been b-sides. but what's most frustrating about arab strap is that murdoch deliberately left some of his best songs of the record. but i quibble. these glorious songs will glady break your heart if you give them the attention they demand -- and deserve. ouch. now my hands hurt. oh well. hope you enjoy it. -kerry _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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Re: Sinister: bollocks
by larry＠interlog.com 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

quoth the Duke: >Anyone who doesn't like mary lou lord and who'd like a giggle is >advised to take a few minutes and go read Everett True's humorous >assault in his 'Hugs and Kisses' article on Tangents. in which ET writes: >>She didn't even write most of her "heartfelt" songs on her major label >>debut album Got No Shadow, preferring instead-quite sensibly-to leave that >>onerous duty to mentor and idol, Englishman Nick Saloman (from pastel >>folk-rockers The Beavis Frond) ^^^^^^^ Huh huh...he said "folk"... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Chicago
by blahblah 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

hello all i'm hoping i'm sending this right - this is my second post and it's been a while since the first. is anyone going to / has tickets to the chicago show yet? i hope to order mine soon (if they are some left). and is anyone from montreal and plans on going to a Canadian show? i'm boring, and that's all i want to say. thankies - - angela - pager 206.1646 - aaedward(a)iupui.edu - +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by marcus 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

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Re: Sinister: You and your bloody oranges
by Joachim Rosenquist 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

Hi I am from Sweden and I guarantee you that "filmjölk" (not "fil mjolk) is worth trying. It's quite sour but with very fresh taste. Me myself, I enjoy a bowl of it every morning before school. I have never tasted "kräftost" but "mjukost" is great on a sandwich. Joachim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Drummer available for Tribute Tape
by Matt Hayes 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

>Also, do y'all think that the "State I Am In" from Tigermilk is kind of weak >compared to the rest of the album, especially considering how great it came >out for the EP? Why does the best song on the album sound the worst? Or is >it that I'm comparing it to the more produced second version? >My vote for best cover art: 3... 6... 9... in my opinion the tigermilk version of "the state...." is better than the ep version even though it does sound a bit under produced. maybe it is a little weak compared to the rest. i agree about the artwork on 369 though. Joachim. sorry for my spelling. as you might have guessed, i am not exactly bilingual and my keyboard does not do those last three letters. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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