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Sinister: Bowlie at Praz-sur-Arly
by Stephane 22 May '99

22 May '99

Hi kids! It's been a long time, I know. I've carefully read many posts about sos, found them rather interesting and sometimes even funny or pretty or moving or whatever... Anyway, I wanted to write about something else. I'm currently listening to the Ladybug Transistor CD (which is really great, by the way), and it makes me think about Bowlie, of course. Thanks to Ailsa, we all know that there will be a Bowlie 2, in Camber... However, I've discovered a very nice place to organise a wee Bowlie 2 bis, 3, 4 or 134... in France!!! Yes! Last week, I went to a small village in Praz-sur-Arly for my job (dont ask me what my job consists in, please...). Most of you may know Albertville because of the winter Olympic games: well, Praz-sur-Arly is in the mountains, a few kilometers from Albertville. And there's a holiday camp there: with chalets like in Camber, with games and playgrounds, with a small venue, with green fields. There are even cows all around, with bells (bells, not belle) hanging at their neck!!! Seriously, it's a very nice place... I was so bored working there that I fancied a festival in this holiday camp. It's a long way from Glasgow, of course, but I'm sure Isobel would love this place. When I was a wee boy, I loved Belle et Sébastien on the telly and, if I remember well, it took place in the Alpes, too... Anyone has the phone number of the guy who runs Foundation? :-)))) Well, as you see, that's all I have to say... Now, you understand why I dont post very often :-))) Take care, we love you all Stephane PS and PM (which means personal messages for people I dont have the time to write to at the moment)= Meganelise, I miss your diary... Anna, I received your tape this morning, thanks a lot!!! -- http://www.chez.com/tweeclub +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: White Horses
by Kevan Cooke 22 May '99

22 May '99

hello folks, ian said: >has anyone here ever stuck a marble up their nose? yes, i thought i'd have to go to hospital to get it out again, but after about an hour i got it loose. this was a very long time ago. i once stuck bits of wire into a plug socket to see what would happen too. it went bang, burnt my fingers and temporarily blinded me. it's not an experience i'd recommend. funkyseb said: >a load of old shit sorry seb mate, but it was. hey i was on something called sos, but i think it must have been different to the thing that funkyseb was talking about. either that or he has been deliberately misled by someone. i know you're all sick of this already, but i'd just like to confirm that it was somewhere that honey spoke to a few friends from time to time. if it had ever been a place to monitor or discuss specific posts or listees, or some kind of inner circle running the list, then i would have been out of there in no time. sorry, you're all bored, i'll shut up. how come no one talks about Joan of Arse on this list? kevan *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: feeling fed up
by Sarah Drayton 22 May '99

22 May '99

re; this is an email list about a band we all love. Can we all stop being so bloody precious as it is getting us no-where. I love B&S, and i reckon the rest of you do too. If anyone really has a problem, then unsubscribe. No one is making you stay, and if you have such a massive problem with all this, you won't mind. This is getting petty, and i'm getting bored. Belle and Sebastian. Just thought a few of you needed reminding.... sorry for my tone, cos, shit, i am fairly new...david I couldn't agree with you more, David. I'm tired of reading long and extremely dull posts about things that really don't matter. I joined this list because I am a Belle and Sebastian fan...I didn't want to read any of the petty nonsense/sinister politics etc that supposedly go along with this. Could we please just start posting amusing or interesting things, rather than long, rambling posts about who flamed who, who's spreading "nasty" rumours etc???? Some of you might have noticed that I've only posted a few times...well, this is due to the facts that a) I'm still relatively new to all of this and b) I have had nothing to say until this point. If I have offended any one then I am truly sorry. I would just like to, for once, belong to a list that didn't involve pettiness etc Thank you for listening Sarah D ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: giving it my best try
by Pinaplcrsh＠aol.com 22 May '99

22 May '99

hi. i've been on this list for over a year now and i'm still terrified to post. i've always been afraid of what people are going to think of me because it seems to be really judgemental. everyone supports each other, but only if their posts are good. so i'm going to give it a try now. i'm expecting it to take a while, but i've got my lucky strikes and bottle of merlot here to help me. i hope my lower case letters don't bother you. the lovely lesley jo said this earlier, 'where are the big lesbo dykes?? i know there are at least two of us.' it made me happy as it was the first time i'd been mentioned on the list, even if it wasn't by name. so, i'm alyssa marie. i live in california. i'm obsessed with music, mostly pop. my favorite labels are subway and k. i really want to learn about old soul, funk, and underground hip-hop, but i don't know where to start. i've got a crushed heart right now. my amazing girlfriend broke up with me. i still fall in love with her a bit more every time i think of her. i'm feeling pretty secure though that we'll get back together eventually. it's not an obsessive thing, just a 'i know this is true love and we're meant to be together' thing. still, it's hard and i've been very sad. it's two weeks today. i can't let go of the lucy doll she got me at christmas. that was enough poor me for today. i'm thinking that maybe i should leave this as it is now. oh, one thing i want to mention for any of you that are in california. i'm trying to help pass a bill called ab222 that would offer protection to gay kids or kids who are perceived to be gay all through school. some of you have offered stories have harrassment today so maybe a couple of you might be willing to write a couple letters. you can e-mail me for information. c'mon, do it for the children. i hope that wasn't against list rules. so that will be my first real post. please be gentle with me. i tried. hope you're all well. take care. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: glad to be gay
by rebelstrange＠ldd.net 22 May '99

22 May '99

baby chris sputters the following: GOTHS ARE PRICKS - I honestly believe this - they thing that by waering black and loving the devil that they are being individuals - the hell they yeah but--i have to interject here and say, though i'm not a goth (kinda like vegetarians, i wish i was, but i have to admit i'm not), all goths do not worship satan. the ones who do--well that's the pseudo-goth marilyn manson (MANSON IS NOT FUCKING GOTH!!!) or the really scary ones, and woh cares about them. some goths are just cool. i mean black looks good on ANYONE. it's a fabulous and spiritual color--comforting even. black is not evil, it's lovely and absolute. and yeah--some of the goth chicks are just too cute witht heir fishnets and silver jewelry and black lipstick. *ahhhh* some wisdom from the blessed twee defender, ian, follows:: >i'll say nothing about isobel being covered in a thin coating of gelatin and put in a plastic container with a piece of cotton wool. --cor blimey, that's a good idea. you just supplied me with ample fantasy fodder for tonight's dream session. oh my dear god. that was funny. and furthermore, on my new romantics suggestion: >no, i don't think they're reactionary. the insistence on a melody shouldn't be labelled as reactionary. or if it is, only in the sense that writing books in a recognisable language is reactionary. although they don't widen the scope of what can be defined as "music", and they aren't pushing back generic barriers (which frankly is a load of bollocks anyway i think you're correct. at some point it must be repeated--hell, shakespeare knew it way back then--nothing new under the sun. you can package it differently, but essentially you got rhythm, harmoney and melody. without that, it's not really "music". i thought about this before, like why do we have chords and scales and 4-count measures? you can go to 5 or 11 or 19 counts, but ultimately--it's repetition and structure that makes music. you can make random noise, but that's been done before too. you can't really re-invent the wheel as they say. and for what it's worth--i'm a sentimental bastard. i could give a damn if it's innovative. a Francoise Hardy tune is nothing revolutionary, but it can still make me cry like a baby. because it's emotion distilled into a little capsule, purely. which reminds me== the girl who mentioned the book about music bein gthe highest art form-- that's exactly the way i believe in. music is so vast and open in its associations. music can make you think a picture, a story, a dance, an emotion. it's rare that a picture can bring forth music. as much as i love pictures. but i think music is something even more primal. i dont know much about the "newromantics" proper, i mean duran duran, i have no clue about that. which says something in itself. are people worshiping Spandau Ballet anymore really? that reminds me, was Ultravox a new romantic band? i dont' know. i was more referring to romanticism in art. but thank you ian for the lovely conversation, it's nice to discuss these things, and yes, vanish up our own arses. that's the one thing in life i'm really really good at. There is nothign revolutionary. people look for something new. there's nothign new. peopel still make the same mistakes they made back in 2000 B.C. or before that. this is my point on the millenium. (by the way, the millenium does not even happen technically*?* until 2001 so tell your friends to stop fucking going crazy already) we're at the point that we have all this history behind us to go over, and so much to learn from that has gone before us. the only revolutionary calamity that the millenium will bring is the challenge to put all this knowledge together into something that finally works better. y2k is a joke. computers are garbage. dont' let them run your life. there is no fucking explosion and no Antichrist(sic). BOYCOTT THE MILLENIUM!!! i'm serious. it's getting on my nerves big time. we have LIVES to live. there's more to it than all that. it's a total sham. yes and i'll have my anti-milennial manifesto published in the new york times very soon. and remember, US kids, to set your vcrs tonight for politically incorrect starring Jarvis "superman" Cocker. it should be really amusing. i suppose all you brits are sick of seeing him on TV, but here in america we dont' get much of that. i didn't knwo there were so many gay boys on sinister. (alright rainbow power y'all!!) where are the big lesbo dykes?? i know there are at least two of us. maybe we can start the lambda sinister union association of gay belle and sebastian fans. hahahahaa LATERS LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange The boat that brings us here will crack beneath your weight. This is territory you cannot invade. "I'll go and play with words and pictures" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: rabbits
by angel 22 May '99

22 May '99

hiya everybody, i'm one of the offending lower-case shift key shirking shy telephobic types. but hey, that's just the way i am. one thing: to be *this* shy is not fun. i can't speak for anybody else, but i would give anything to be able to assert myself a bit more. i can't, and it's not affectation, it's something that's wrong with me and it's scary. honey, in his infinite wisdom, remarked: Can we just say that the Church of Sinister is like the Church of England, a broad church, but without the laughable costumes? aw, let us have laughable costumes, go on. i quite fancy a kind blue velour and silk catsuit/robe combination with added crinkly bits and a top hat for extra height. or a pointy hat, if you're a narrow wizard. on the subject of noise pollution, which someone was, but i can't remember who or be arsed to dig out the quote, my next-door neighbour is an old lady. every so often, thudding, bass-heavy techno (of the sort that we used to call "boom-boom bollocks", sulkily, when the buzzin' kids had taken charge of the sixth form common room stereo), comes pounding through the dividing walls. only when she's on her own, though. i think she must be honing her mixing skills to supplement her pension. DJ Vera in da HOUSE. i found a story on the wibblywobblyweb that caught my eye the other day. it's called "The Rabbits That Caused All The Trouble", and it's by James Thurber. i was immediately interested, because i have always had a sneaking suspicion that it is indeed rabbits who cause ALL the trouble, and not footballers/the government/satan. just you keep an eye on them, that's all i'm saying. they know more than they'd like you to think. sitting there with their twitchy noses, pretending they're not LISTENING TO EVERY WORD YOU SAY. and scheming. big eared little rodent hitlers. i can say no more, abi (who's glad the poetry parrot's out and about again. mondays just didn't feel right without a poem)x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: you all love it up the arse
by susannah 22 May '99

22 May '99

You do! you really really do! Shut up. Anyway, I feel compelled to right in and tell you about a clever clever doggy who lives down the road. He is a black doggy and runs around Stoke Newington with no collar on. But the funny thing is, he uses the zebra crossings! I've seen him use two different ones now, and he'll actually hesitate before crossing them, just to make sure the cars are stopping before walking out. What a clever doggy. Also i resigned from my job last week. Just walked in and said 'stick it up your arse you fat knobhead'. Actually thats a lie I wrote a very polite letter that went something like this: 'Dear Boss, I am notifying you of my resignation. I am leaving on the 18th June, and therefore have given the required months notice.' Yours etc. etc. But what exactly are you meant to write? people talk about 'giving in their notice' but whats meant to be in it? Thing is, when I go, nobodys going to flippin' well notice anyway. I walked out that day thinking ' yeah, yeah, I've done it, yeah, that showed them! cunts!' but about fifteen minutes later it had spookily changed to 'ohmigod, what am I meant to do now?' Escort girls, right, do they actually have to have sex? or is it just taking old men to the opera and listening to them moaning about their wives? Thing is you get loads more money if you actually 'do' it, so if you take them out, and they turn out to be 'alright' then why not? I've done it with worse people for less. I've done it with worse people for free. Anyway, the one off 'Cops' who went to the escort agency was fit. Ewan McGregor fans watch out. You know you all thought he was a nice loving family man? Bollocks to that. Apparently he's a real tart and gets off with loads of girls. He had an affair with Anna Friel whilst filming Rogue Trader, she was obsessed with him apparently, and I met this girl last Saturday whose friend shagged him in the toilets of a film doo, and afterwards he wiped himself on the curtain, zipped himself up and went out to meet his wife. And Gary Linekar? Mr. Squeaky clean? uh-uh, shags anything that moves. Liam Gallagher? Had sex with Kate Moss at a party and thats why Patsy walked out. I know its all a bit graphic but girls, you gotta know. Don't trust 'em. Right. Shut up. Susannah. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Shyness is nice and shyness can stop you....
by PaperSun23＠aol.com 21 May '99

21 May '99

In a message dated 5/21/99 8:34:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, macarthur(a)btinternet.com writes: << ... i simply engineered it so we would be in the same place at the same time and got talking to them. But then crushboy turned into normalboringboy and i'm left without anyone to swoon over. Which is getting v.boring.. >> Isn't that invariably how it happens? I really hope I'm not the only one stuck in that cycle. If so, I'll be quite the lonely dribbling mess condemned to listen to Mogwai on repeat until 6 AM every day until the frog turns into the prince and climbs up through the shrubs into my window obscured by pathetic photos of Morrissey (who turns 40 tomorrow 8^O ! ) and other wonderfully sorry types to rescue me from utter dismay disguised as a clever interest in musical trivia and Dostoyevsky novels....or I could simply approach someone I like and tell them....no, that would be too difficult. *shrug* moon patroller carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: back in school
by damienfranciscathalfrost 21 May '99

21 May '99

"What is it about Belle and Sebastian that make me feel connected again to my school childhood? Do any other B&S fans feel that same connection? And is it in the same way?" oh, this was one of the first things i thought when i heard them.. not only school but childhod in general.. with b&s everything seems so fresh, like you're discovering love and sadness all over again. i can't help but feel sorry for kids in school at the moment. i mean with all this scare about "trench coat mafias" dissasociated, shy and awkward kids ready to blow everyones brains out. gosh! i know me and my friends would all have been put into counselling sessions right away. i read about this kid, who after writing down their thoughts on the shootings (as the class was asked to) was put into counselling because they wrote that while they dont condone the actions or the violence, that they could empathise with and understand what led them to do it.... stars of track and field... anyway, while we're sort of on the subject who else thinks that (sweping musical tastes under the rug for now) marylin manson would be a fun guy to hang out with on a friday night- you know, hit the town, drink a little and go to a few discos with hiim in tow. the bookstore i work in just got a copy of his biography, which btw is a really really funny book if you can find a copy second hand (which,give it a few months and you undoubtedly will) and i was flicking through it and when customers came up to the counter i had this automatic reaction to try and hide it, like i was embarrassed to be caught reading it. which i sort of was. and for a bit of scottish flavour... Q. What's the difference between a bagpipe and an onion? A. No one cries when you chop up a bagpipe. ..sorry d oh i can't help myself.... Q. How is playing a bagpipe like throwing a javelin blindfolded? A. You don't have to be very good to get people's attention. Q. What's the definition of a gentleman? A. Someone who knows how to play the bagpipe and doesn't. : : : : : : : object not found : : : : : : : : http://www.renewal.org.au/object : : : : : : loser-fi(delity) radio : : : : : : http://www.renewal.org.au/loser +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the end of the virtual world?
by Jim Schmidt 21 May '99

21 May '99

wow, i haven't seen so much drama since "dynasty"... just remember, at the end of the day, belle & sebastian is just a band of people who we don't even know. a great band nonetheless--one whose music has been influential enough to bring all of us together from all over the planet (universe?) to discuss our ideas/thoughts/feelings/etc. in a different forum...but it needs to be put in perspective. most of us will never meet, and it's kind of disturbing to realize that even a cyberspace community can't exist in a state of peace. it's the human condition. quite sad. you can't even escape it through artificial intelligence. is this the eighth sign or something as we hurl toward the millennium? "lists and branches of lists begin to dissolve as loyal followers of a poetic music messiah divide into camps as misinformation spreads over the information highway..." shiver me timbers. well, that's enough of that silliness. b&s content...i read somewhere that members of b&s are playing on the new secret goldfish album? truth? or more unsubstantiated rumours? i must know!!! have a great weekend everyone! and if you can't laugh at yourself, you can be sure that someone else is. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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