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Sinister: too shy (does anyone remember Kajagoogoo?)
by The Narrow Wizard 20 May '99

20 May '99

Thought that as an official shy guy I should get in on this topic of how we should get with women that we like. I have to say I really don't know how it's done and I have never in my life chatted up a woman or even thought seriously about trying it. I wouldn't know where to begin and I know that I'd just make an absolute fool of myself. I am however a pretty friendly guy and I've found that on the rare occaisions when I do talk to women (in classes or if I'm introduced by a mutual friend are about the only times) I usually get on well with them. This usually leads to one of 2 things. Sometimes I have a new friend and though I'd often like to be more than friends I do appreciate these friendships. Sometimes however the woman im talking to grabs me and starts kissing me!(what can I say...I guess some people are a lot less shy than me) Now this is my point, I'm a pretty ugly guy and quite socially inept but this sort of thing still happens to me. My advice to the legions of the shy...just be yourself (god what a cliche) and you'll find that women (or men I suppose) who like you will come your way and you'll get lots of new friends who maybe will introduce you to others that may like you (or maybe as happened to me they'll give you a copy of tigermilk (wow a bit of B&S content)) I guess that's all i really want to say....sorry for taking up your time with my pathetic observations. Oh and hi to Rob....nice to know there's another sunderland fan in here. have a good one and have one for me owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Money, money, money
by Power15755＠aol.com 20 May '99

20 May '99

Hello you! A discussion - nice! :-) Elle always says the things I want to say, but can't because I'm not that good at speaking (or writing) English. I'm also on Jeepster's side. When I was in England for the last time a month ago, I was shocked when I saw the CD prices at HMV etc. I bet you won't find "Tigermilk" at any recordshop in the UK for 8 pounds. And about being "in it for the money" - well, of course, being a loyal fan, I also like to believe that B & S are not, but let's face it - don't we all need money to live??? Even musicians have to eat, wear clothes, pay bills etc. But if someone actually does "something pretty" for their money (unlike me) we should be happy and don't moan about it. I'm really looking forward to the re-release because my tape isn't the best quality either, and I don't care when it will be or why, as long as I get it! By the way: Is David Kitchen back on the list? Bye Antje +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: White Horses
by andrew dean 20 May '99

20 May '99

(oops, this turned out to be very long. still, i've not posted in 2 months so...) > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:21:35 -0700 > From: "Elish Hope" <ehope(a)nwmls.com> > Yes, we do - but what is the hubbub about? Jeepster DON'T charge 40 pounds > per album - so why the fuss? In fact, when labels do the singles for the > 1.99 for the first week, they all lose money. they lose money on that single (but then haven't i read somewhere that most singles lose money?) but usually they use the single as an advertisment for whatever lp it was taken from. now, b&s are good to us in as much as none of the singles they have released (so far) have contained anything from any album (something sarah records also used to do*). compare this to 'thriller' or something which had eight singles taken from it. > Major labels do it to get in > the charts, Jeepster did it when they weren't even eligible for the charts > due to the 4 song EP rule. no they didn't. only one b&s ep has been 1.99 during it's first week of release (i forget which one but i remember this cos i bought 3 at the time. and i think one of the others was 2.99) and that was whilst 4 song eps were still eligible. that said, '3,6,9...' was actually a 5 song ep which wouldn't've counted. (koogy looks in his records and sees that 'dog on wheels' was 2.99, 'llpj' was 3.99, '3, 6, 9...' was 1.99 and 'MRS' was 3.49, 'sinister' was 12.49, as was '...arab strap' (all cd versions). and 'tigermilk' was 8 quid including postage) > My point was - WHEN HAVE JEEPSTER EVER DONE WRONG BY US? The answer is > never. the answer is 'not yet' (unless you count the gentle waves single debacle that tim mentioned). i saw somewhere that the next two looper singles will contain tracks from the lp, an lp that already has two singles taken from it and was only 38 minutes long to begin with. (looper was 14.99 in my local shop btw although i got it from the rough trade instore for 11.99. it cost 12 pounds to record according to 'the face') > Actually that isn't too bad for > a band that took 11 hours or so to sound check at Bowlie as reports said. how can this possibly be true? given that the bands on sunday started at 4:15 then did b&s soundcheck starting at 5am the previous morning? and if they had soundchecked for 11 hours would stuart's saxaphone have made that pathetic little whine when he tried to play it? father damo: > The Smiths > and were shamelessly marketing themselves to a similar piece of the market, > and were quite good at it, weren't they? I still like the music, and I'm > not convinced they had no respect for what they were doing. the smiths were also fans of the 'no singles from lps' thing although they were very sneaky about it and whilst the a-side of most of their singles didn't appear on any lp, the b-sides of many of them did (this being back in the days of 2 track 7" singles) > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:59:17 -0230 > From: "erika balsom" <ebalsom(a)avint.net> i wonder if erika has a brother called alberto? nick dastor wrote: > (the lyrics to all the unreleased b&s tunes) nick, you have too much time on your hands. 8) can anyone (and i'm thinking now of two people in a flat in attercliffe road who probably know better than anyone) if the 'landslide' song they played at camber sands was an original or a cover version? it sounded very convincingly motown / girl groupish. also, speaking of camber sands songs, i can't believe the decision to play 'the kids are alright' wasn't influenced by all the talk on the list of The Who. maybe if we mention 'White Horses' enough times they'll do that at the next gig... paint along with andy *except of course sarah 614, even as we speak - feral pop frenzy which contained the lead track from the 'one step forward' single as a favour to the band as it was hard to get hold of in their native australia. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: question for you UK people
by SPRFNK＠aol.com 20 May '99

20 May '99

is it bad to go to the UK in august because someone said there is a big holiday there and everything is closed--let me know thanks-sorry for this email bye kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: bowlie bracelets
by Jim Schmidt 20 May '99

20 May '99

"does terri win the prize for longest bowlie tag wearing or does anybody else claim that?" --i'm glad i wasn't the only fool running around with mine on long after the fest was over (it finally broke off on may 9th in a bathtub in paris)...i really wanted it to last until i got back to the states as it was keeping me safe on my travels, but that hard parisian water was just too too much. just a little side note for those who haven't been fortunate to see b&s live...i travelled quite a distance to see them...i had an incredible weekend, met a slew of people i'll never forget...but standing in a sweatied, dehydrated, ever-pushing-to-the-front-"i-wanna-be-closer-to-my-gods" mass of people made me realize what i enjoy about b&s the most--listening to them by myself or with my closest friends...i'd see them again in a heartbeat, but it was the overall feeling of the festival and not seeing the band which made the weekend extraordinary...in a hippie kind of way, it was the first in a long time that i've felt the true meaning of "community"...the fact that they headlined it provided the nature of that community and whoever headlines the next will dictate the nature of the people and bands who gather together to form that community...long live bowlie! ok, enough mush. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Geoff's Drowning in Oxo!
by robhalcrow＠lineone.net 20 May '99

20 May '99

Oh the comedy of mis-hearing lyrics. I'm sure I've just heard the singer out of Sleater-Kinney screaming about Geoff and his Oxo difficulties. The Sinister section on this subject is very funny. "Me and the midget" makes a lot of sense. Tripple X-Weeejay asked about which book to get. Of the ones on the list I've only read "The Great Gatsby" but in my opinion it's brilliant. Very easy to read, and very evocative too. I've read bits by the other writers but not the books you mention. Fitzgerald is very good though. Someone else mentioned Camus. I read "The outsider" and some short pieces and couldn't see what all the fuss was about. Am I missing something? Watching TV the other night I saw this bloke in a gaudy yellow suit and lots of make up singing away. "Blimey" I thought, "Bryan Ferry's looking rough" but it wasn't. It was that bloke out of The Go Betweens. Ha ha. Last night I went to see Mel and Sue (of Light/Late Lunch fame) and they were brilliant. Really funny. They do a hilarious take off of Kraftwerk/ Gary Numan/80s robot synth pop. I laughed meself silly. Go and see em if you can. Like a sad fan I queued up afterwards to meet them and they were very friendly. On that subject and the recent kerfuffle on this list I believe that you should be try and be friendly, and if you can't be friendly you can at least be polite. Just cos you think someone's a wanker you don't have to tell them. If someone annoys you in the playground then just go away. And while I'm at it I'm not really twee. I play football, I'm a Sunderland supporter (congratulations Peter et al) and very often I'm a right cynical bastard. I'm shy by nature, not by choice. Am I rambling now? I think so. Love Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sorry for the previous email
by Youn Jong Noh 20 May '99

20 May '99

it wasn't meant to disturb everyone on the list. how embarrassing. and maybe it's even worse to trouble everyone again to apologize. i would hyperventilate everytime the phone rings if i didn't already know that the calls were all for my roommate. a boy in my hall told me that lower case is supposed to be easier to read -perceptually/physiologically or whatever - and he should know 'cos he's supersmart and he works in a lab where they do mri's (magnetic resonance imaging or something like that). cheers, youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dreams...
by Elish Hope 20 May '99

20 May '99

It seems we have a Fraggle on our hands. Sorry to those who are tired of hearing about it. But here's a little story. Several years ago I moved to London to work as a music photographer - I use that term very loosely. I did a lot of work, went on a lot of tours, etc... My one dream was to have a photo in an album cover. It seemed that would never happen. I had done video stills and single work, but never an album. Then the Belle's used a photo of Belle that I had taken on the gatefold. Wow. It was a dream come true. So much so that I then retired from doing photographic work. My work is good, but I felt I had accomplished the goal I had set for myself. I thought it was a good time to stop. I was always worried about not having accomplished anything. That I would just move back to America, get married and wonder at the age of 35 what I had done with my life. I wanted something more from my life than to just be some polyester bride. I have that. Perhaps I lack ambition or I set my sights too low, but I am totally happy with myself and my career. That gatefold is framed on my wall and is a reminder to myself that dreams come true, because mine did. Soppy and sad. Perhaps. But that is how I feel. Say what you like about Jeepster, about the Belle's, but don't expect me to sit idly by and listen. With that, I throw my hat in the ring and wave my white flag. Please no more emails to me about the price of this and the price of that. I don't care that much. I only care that there are a lot of people on this list who feel the way I do about Jeepster and the Belle's. I don't feel like I owe them anything, or whatever, I just don't see the sense in planning on Jeepster failing us and whatnot. I only want to go to pic nics and meet-ups where people have similar interests to me and have fun. That's what the Sinister list is about. Snoggs, elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hugs and kisses
by Lucy Munro 20 May '99

20 May '99

Rachel said: > what i was wondering was if anyone had any info on this singer/songwriter susie hug (?) whose song 'the unbelievers' they covered. it was absolutely fantastic and i want to check her out, see if she is any good. so could any of you kind people help? someone must know her surely.... < Unless there are two Susie Hugs around (which seems unlikely) she used to be in a band called Katydids which had a rather wonderful single out a few years ago called "Lights Out" and a couple of albums, one of which was produced by Nick Lowe (a *good* thing). Nobody bought the albums and they split up. That's all I know, apart from the fact that Travis had one of her songs (can't remember which) on one of their singles. Again, I can't remember which one (sorry, this isn't very helpful, is it???) - I did have it, but I gave it to one of my flatmates because she liked their single that was on Top of the Pops a few weeks ago. I think the sleeve was red and green. (Shades of Brian Glover's character in Porridge: "I read a book once. Green it was.") Um. I'm probably showing my ignorance and lack of sophistication here, but I was reading Stephane's story in the library and it mentions someone drinking "le cidre anglais". Why "anglais" please? Went to the Jazz Cafe on Sunday to (as it turned out) stand gawping at the brilliance of Robert Forster and Grant McLennan. Stevie Trousers is absolutely right about Robert's makeup, though we were pleased to see that he'd cut his hair since he played in London last year when it was fast approaching mullet status. I had to hurry to get there, as I'd been to a party for a friend's first communion - v. odd as I'm a non-Catholic agnostic. Is that mixture of sacred and prophane with a dollop of indie-pop B&S enough? I haven't posted in ages, but I'd like to say that I now regret not having bought tickets for Bowlie, I've done my penance, and I'd like apologise to anyone whose feet I trod on at the Betsey Trotwood on the Thursday before. I now realise that I was drowning my sorrows in advance. Isn't Harvey good, though? Lucy ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro(a)kcl.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: White Horses
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 20 May '99

20 May '99

> Actually that isn't too bad for > a band that took 11 hours or so to sound check at Bowlie as reports said. Andy rubbed his chin: >how can this possibly be true? given that the bands on sunday started at >4:15 then did b&s soundcheck starting at 5am the previous morning? and >if they had soundchecked for 11 hours would stuart's saxaphone have made >that pathetic little whine when he tried to play it? Well I was a bit confused by this report too, but then I heard that what they meant was that a day or so previously they had soundchecked all day at another location. I suppose you could technically call that a rehearsal, seeing as the acoustics were bound to differ. Anyway, they'd obviously put a lot of effort in one way or another - intersong 'Pinteresque' pauses were cut dramatically and generally the sound was excellent. And as for the pathetic whining noise - that was because I had sabotaged Stuart's saxophone as part of my 'Let's Kick Saxophones Out Of Rock' campaign. Talking of Camber Sands people have been squealing about tapes. I can do a few (maybe five?) for people if they'd like. I'd be esp. pleased if in return someone can give me a tape of 'Rhoda' or a non-Beat Patrol version of 'Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner' but it doesn't matter if you can't. Email me.... Nick, who does indeed have far too much time on his hands. Would anyone like some of it? xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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