June 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: dont want acceptance, dont want tradition
by Graham MacArthur 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

dmitry told us about the american dream: > system in teh world (UIUC), its impossible not to run into them and their: > khaki shorts, sweaters, Tommy and abercrombie and fitch clothes, baseball > hats, matchbox 20/offspring tshirts, and who could forget the > homophobic/dumb jock attitudes. all stereotypes, yes, but all true. I have a feeling, had I had to have grown up in a "typical" american high school, I would have surely committed suicide. Mind you, can too many eighties teen films blur your vision? (as a brit, i mean). I've though about this quite a bit, and I think overall, there is no geek/cool people divide in schools. It's a myth exaggerated by films and books, and indeed Pulp songs. It's a romantic notion which I would have taken pleasure in indulging in given cause, but even if I never used to have any friends in the first year, it wasn't cool people that slinked up to me and took the piss, it was just nasty nerds, who took pleasure in making other people feel like they had. There are just seperate little communities (the obligitary 'in' crowd) and people who get picked on because they are slightly different to everyone else. But In America, there are more nightmares to go through though, like the Prom, and sports events which are built up bigger than they would ever be over here. And more of a feeling of 'school spirit', which is bound to leave people feeling alienated if they weren't a bouncy cheerleader type or a grunting jock type. Do these people only exist in frats? You'll have to forgive me for being blinkered, the only view I have of american school life is Saved By the Bell. (but i do know all the words to the theme tune). Pretty in Pink....Pretty in Pink.... Love Erica x P.s I'm trying to compile a list of songs with the word 'Pink' in the title. So far I only have the new offering by aerosmith (haw haw) and the psycadelic furs. so mail me privately. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the greeks are coming
by Fergal Denn 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

Nick wrote: >Did anyone else see that documentary about the University of Iowa's 'Greek >system' of sonority and fraternity houses. It was quite the weirdest thing >I >have ever seen. yep I saw that documentary too, and yep it was scary. The idea that this set of strange individuals are due to be the future leaders of the most powerful country in the world is a tad worrisome. Having said that, I was also struck by how vastly different the world of the girls in the sorority was from the guys world in the frats. Yes, I realise that boys and girls are fundamentally different but these people were like different species. Is this the status quo of an unchecked single sex environment? Perhaps the insular societal microcosms of the greek system represent what a single sex world would be like? If so, in a world populated by just girls everybody would be well dressed, conformist, prissy, teetotal, walk around with their hands behind their back and sing pseudo religious songs. The alternative being a boy world where guys spend their time getting boozed up, talking like morons and in the absence of some puss to pull I suppose they'd pull each other......... Both worlds have there attractions but on balance I think Id rather hang out with the stepford wives in girl world....any thoughts? Fergal ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Winter Wooskie lyrics
by Amanda Tate 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

--- Nick.Dastoor(a)guardian.co.uk wrote: > But the REALLY scary part > was that 80% of all major CEOs and most of the > military and all but two US > presidents have participated in this > 'character-building' tomfoolery. It's > like SoS - but *WORSE*. Would any US listee like to > admit to being part of it > and explain why this is complete mispresentation? Hmmm. I've had a voice for awhile but this is its virgin voyage. As I'm no pop guru, I've just been listening to all of Sinister's witty banter, etc. Until now! So... Hi. I'm Amanda. I love Belle and Sebastian. And... I'm...in a sorority! Do you hate me? Do you think I'm an elistist pig? Are you wondering how many pairs of khakis I own? (for the record, 1) It's a very bland argument, but the Greek system is made up of hundreds of national sororities and fraternities, which have hundreds of chapters, on hundreds of campuses, including a gazillion members. I've met loads of Greek dickheads. There are plenty of people who like to hide behind their letters, thinking that they're endowed with superhuman powers just because other people know they have friends. Of course...and I'd be a fool not to admit it. But we don't pay to have these friends. These are social organizations. We pay to buy coloring books for children's hospitals, but also to throw parties (ie buy lots of booze). Where lots of people drink too much, play bad music, etc. But that happens sometimes. And it depends on the sorority/fraternity. I do love my sorority. I've met hundreds of amazing people and have made lifelong friends. Then again, I've met hundreds of sucks and made lifelong enemies! It just depends who are you and what you seek. I've been living in Geneva for the past year so I have been out of the loop for awhile. But I'm coming back to the States in July so I hope to see some of you D.C. sinisterites around! Bisous, Amanda _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: irony is the best policy while ironing
by jarkko frantila 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

Well, nothing important to say (as always), but I just HAD to copy& paste this from the NME singles section: >The Wiseguys Ooh La La (Wall Of Sound) Two words for you: Budweiser advert. This is the hyperactive big-beat cheese explosion which soundtracks those beer-drinking frogs and their crocodile mate and, yes indeed, it is pure genius. Imagine Supergrass without their brooding intellectual depths, or Fatboy Slim without his thought-provoking philosophical lyrics. Put simply: if you don't like this, you don't like pop music. In which case, get thee to a nunnery with all the other Belle & Sebastian fans.> Jesus, you shouldve heard me laughing when I read this. That's it. Hey, I got some B&S into this one!! First time for everything. @--->--- Jake le petit. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: something or or other..
by ASpawnyGit＠aol.com 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

> What we need to save our souls is a sussed sexy and tough girl band. > Hmmm...... > Sarah In that case try Nashville Pussy. They might just be your messiah for they could kick my arse in a heartbeat...and have me begging for more. On another Note, I saw the original Black Sabbath lineup. It was hilarious actually. Ozzy introduced the members as "Geezer Bloodclot" on guitar and "Heartattack Charlie" on bass. The old coot did leap frogs the whole set. Unfortunately I had to sit through the 12 hours of painful death-metal that is also called Ozzfest. I did get to see Slayer though, it was quite a novelty..4 guys with long hair and wearing spandex, playing so fast their hands looked like propellors. It was quite an experience...and my ears still hurt, but that's what you get for listening to the devil through large amplifiers while sitting 10 rows from the stage. A small footnote, while sitting amongst many demonoid looking people I spotted, and struck up a conversation with, a fellow wearing a Low T-shirt. It was like being in some remote third world country and seeing someone that actually speaks English. On the subject of the All tomorrow's Parties show, I looked on Ticketweb and they had priced the tickets at 420.00 Is that for real???? I don't see why they would lie but..that's a large bit of cash! Brad (Spawny Git) "Sorry if I'm useless" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Winter Wooskie lyrics
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

Here is Stuart David's latest effort. For those who missed it at Camber Sands or Dublin, like 'Paper Boat' it's got a bit of a sing-song, faux-naif quality to it. This is my way of saying it's not that great. But it is nice. Like the Beach Boy's album 'Friends' is nice but not great. Stuart inrtoduced it by saying that it wasn't as good as the Flaming Lips. Which reminds me - someone sent me a tape of last year's Brussels show and in it Stevie introduces 'The Wrong Girl' by saying 'This song's not been released yet. It probably never will be' in a kind of self-effacing way. That band really need to improve their attitude. I think they should start boasting about how they are the best band in the world ever and swear more. Shunning journalists is good, but perhaps fighting them would be even better. Jay promised to tell us about 'The weirdest party he had ever popped in...' But I got to the end and there was no popping denoument at all. I was expecting a bit of flatulence at the very least. Did anyone else see that documentary about the University of Iowa's 'Greek system' of sonority and fraternity houses. It was quite the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Apparently a fifth of all new students arrive a week early to go through a sick selection procedure ('Rush') for all these 'secret' single-sex societies with names like 'Alpha Kai Kai' and 'Gamma Beta Sigma'. If they get in the girls get to be all prissy and live without alcohol and the boys get to boast about collecting more sonority girls' knickers than those pussies over at Beta Pi Eater. And they have to pay up to $11000 over their time at university for the privilege. I never really understood what frat-boys were before. But yeah, if anything the girls were sicker. They all sang songs like 'We are Alpha Kai Kai and we are great / Always Alpha Kai Kai / I love Alpha Kai Kai' whilst touching each others pointed fingers and banning fruit in drinks. But the REALLY scary part was that 80% of all major CEOs and most of the military and all but two US presidents have participated in this 'character-building' tomfoolery. It's like SoS - but *WORSE*. Would any US listee like to admit to being part of it and explain why this is complete mispresentation? Nick xx 'Winter Wooskie' Who's that girl? She must be nearly freezing Who's that girl? I'll bet All that snow makes it hard so see her Takes you away to me And maybe I'm in love Love love, love love And maybe that's enough That stuff, that stuff Made a film I made it through the winter Who's that star I cast? All wrapped up in her winter wardrobe She hurries by so fast And maybe I'm in love Love love, love love And maybe that's enough That stuff, that stuff On sunny days when the sun shines I watch the tape And through the snow, through the winter I watch her wave to me Who's that girl? She must be nearly freezing +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: futurism vs passeism
by Spiral Stairs 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

toronto sinister type people: reading eye today, i saw that looper is coming july 17th if memory serves... just a line to let you know... i sooooooooo wanted to go to sleater-kinney tonight, but no-one else did. yea, don't all cry at once >:] well i may still go; hopefully they have tix at the door, and there's one last person to call... suspense! peace/john +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: i'm going out tonight
by Schaffenberger, Kristen 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

-----Original Message----- marie elia asked: > why is no one excited about tortoise at bowlie 2? granted, i can't >imagine what they'd be like live, but i thought the same about >stereolab... I saw Tortoise at a somewhat open-air type place (re: it was inside, with trees growing up through what I remember to be a dirt floor and poking through big gapes in the sort of flimsy ceiling, their leaves catching the glow of city lights like so many stars); it was one of the nicest shows I've been to. Stereolab never fails to disappoint live either. I think it has to do with the fact that Laeticia and Mary can actually sing without funneling their voices through-- ?? whatever it is that people funnel their voices through to make themselves sound like Lush^1 or My Bloody Valentine. This makes all the difference in the world w/r/t live performances, I think. 2 cents from Kristen ^1 A funny story about Lush for anyone who's interested: a few years ago (you know, when shoegazing ruled the scene), two of my friends had monstrous crushes on Mickey and Emma, the girls from the band. They had the (mis)fortune of meeting the two after the show. One of said friends said something like, "I think you're beautiful" to one of the Lush girls (I can't remember which one). The girls started to laugh and blush. However, the horror of the story is that, without their voice thingies that made them sound all breathy and soft, they both had incredibly deep, scratchy, masculine voices and Beavis and Butthead-esque laughs. Totally incongruous with their pretty, pretty music and countenances. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Toastmasters
by Halliday, Ian 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

May I take this opportunity to point out to Blake and anybody else who is still listening that Toastmasters is not just a national organisation, but an international one, with the highest number of members per head of population in New Zealand. As there are Toastmaster clubs in most parts of the world, it is not surprising that we're called "Toastmasters International". The website is at http://www.toastmasters.org . Members give speeches to practice their speaking skills, so there is no reason why a member should not talk about B&S or why it's so hard to get hold of a copy of Tigermilk, or what Honey is really like. If you want more about Toastmasters or about Honey, mail me privately. Or if you're in Wellington. Regards, Ian Ian W Halliday, CTM (E2 Area Governor 1999-2000, District 72) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: wow
by Tim 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Wow. I have one of them voice type things on the list now. I am soooooo excited. Well, I have to post something now that I can surely?!?!!? I'm probably not quite twee enough for this list though. I mean, I don't even own one of them leather type jacket things........! I remember reading something about books and that. My personal choice would be anything by Mark Timlin, but then I have a passion for sex, violence and drugs..... Yawn. I am tired already. Comes of doing too much revision, or the lack of. Just why have I spent the last 2 years of my life doing alevels? Is it to go on a 3 year piss up? Belle and Sebastien comment. Oh dear, bit stuck on that one. Well, to be truthful I've only been listening to them for perhaps 5 months or so, and until recently only had the last two albums. Can't say that they're my favourite band either, but they're fucking good. Almost as good as Teenage Fanclub. Woooooohooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Someone was talking about children's tv programmes. Can't beat Jamie and the Magic Torch I say, apart from with a large stick. But on the subject of older tv programmes, what about classics like Airwolf, The A Team, Knightrider, The Avengers, The Persuaders, The Saint, The Man From Uncle and and AND......Randall and Hopkirk Deceased??!??? Ok, I'll stop now!! dooby dooby Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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