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Sinister: school spirit
by Genevieve Wesley 05 Jun '99

05 Jun '99

I know I just wrote a whole junk load,but i do this all at once during these frantic times. Just why is school spirit so wrong? I`m sorry,but if you want to make the school a better place,you need to have some.Sure,you can sit back and cleverly anazlyze exactly what`s wrong with everything and pat yourself on the back,but my heart goes out to those who instead of just saying what`s wrong with something,try and MAKE IT BETTER. If no one puts any effort,of course it`s going to be crap.My school is in an awful area,but once people started getting involved and TRYING,even though we have a horrible school board (which makes improvements very hard) and our school doesnt have much money, we at least try. This year it`s a lot of girls who are running the school and I`m very proud, that whole ditzy girl thing is so 80`s. If you really care about the school and people,you`re bound to be a nice person! Why would such a mean spiritied person put so much effort to make it better for everyone anyways? ok,I actually am going to talk about Bowlie now! Is this All The Night`s Parties really going to be that dumb? I was really looking forward to a Bowlie II.Just to travel would be nice. People have already got their chalets all picked together? I could sleep on a floor, seriously. And I apologize If I sound Miss Thang on here.I`m a polite person and more mature in real life.I do dishes as well. love,genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I wish I Could Crunch Math Problems For Breakfast
by Genevieve Wesley 05 Jun '99

05 Jun '99

Dear List, You know...I`m actually gonna talk music... I decided to buy this Godspeed You Black Emperor..and well,thankyou Sinister for making me a hit with the HMV boys, geez,they went nuts,anyways..I was shocked to find out they`re from Montreal! Interesting..I feel..proud, really I do.I was playing them late at night and it was an experiene, I mean, they`re no Dubmatique,but still. Oh,a weird thing: My teacher grabbed the headphones from me,and he likes them too. Alright,I`m going to talk about a festival that hasnt nothing to do with Bowlie,so 99 percent of you won`t care,but blow me bowlie anyways.Canadian listees: Are any of you going to the Ottawa Blues Fest? (Hey,hey..i`m cool) Aretha cancelled but but but the lineup is now as follows: Smokey Robinson (mmmmmmmm),Little Richard,Booker T & The MG`s,Eric Burdon,Rod Pizazza & The Mighty Flyers,Lil` Ed And The Blues Imperials,John Hiatt,Otis Taylor,Denise LaSalle,Bobby Rush,Gladys Knight there`s tons more in the gospel tent and all that,but im just typing what the flyer says. I`m going to be volunteering there,wiping the sweat off of furrowed brows. the whole high school thing: Sometimes (well most of the time) I just hate being in school,especially during the summer,those stuffy classrooms and never-ending lessons,horrible tests,those are things I won`t miss...but the people,yeah some people can be asses,but don`t you find that anywhere,at all stages in life? The friends,that`s what makes everything GOOD about it..it get`s me really depressed...you always hear those stories about how most people don`t have friends with ANY of their friends from high school when they`re older,it`s really sad for me,I mean..what if you don`t find friends like that ever again? It`s different rules it seems to,at school,you can just meet someone,see them at a party,and sometimes you`re instantly bonded,but i don`t think it`s the same later... I wouldn`t believe all those stereotypes if I were you, sure,some places are awful. It seems at schools currently it`s the goths that get picked on,but I have to be honest here (I`m not saying ALL goths do this so don`t freak out on me) a lot of goths (well at my school anyways) will wear capes and makeup and strange things...and its just begging for attention, if they don`t want the attention,then why do they so desperately rely on it?(not just goths,all sorts of people,I`M NOT LABELING HERE) I mean,if we live in a world where people can`t accept others because of their skin,you think you can just waltz around with whatever you want and no one`s going to say anything? maybe it`s sad,but it`s reality. And we ALL have our own problems,all this victim crap, some people have really serious problems and they learn to deal with it. Yes,you`ve really got to be careful with stereotypes,I mean, not ALL jocks are dumb,just like not all nerds can`t live without their bunsen burners.Being fit IS important too, you cant have all books and learning.They go hand in hand. Sound body,sound mind you know? I wish I had a Super Nerd brain anyways,god how I do! It`s not funny! Some people can just be like `oh I didnt study and I got 100% on my chem test` I would kill for that! And hey-- being friends with the teacher`s? There`s NOTHING wrong with that,it doesn`t mean your a teachers pet. Sleeping with your teachers to get better grades is ok too. Ha ha..just kidding.Although Mr.Kincaid (the substitute teacher) is delicious. He`s married though,with a kid and everything, why are they always married. le grand sigh. And maybe it`s just me....but how can you not like Prom? Prom Passion!The dresses,the date (well,sometimes the date is dreamy)the corsages,dancing,all the primping...sigh...it`s BEAUTIFUL, the one chance you really get to be a princess (or prince,however you like it).I`ve got Seventeen`s from ages back in 93 and the prom fashion spreads were always so gorgeous...the flowy dresses,the girls running on the beach..*sniff* ok,maybe I wouldn`t be so eager if my Prom was held in our gym or something,but still...man,its PROM! Stu D`s Winter Wooksie: What`s it all about? I have my own ideas,but you will all think I`m obsessed when I share them.I have invaded Stuart David`s concious with my constant pestering,I KNOW IT. Stuart Babe: Don`t fight it.Let it take you over. I have my own idea to Lazy Line Painter Jane as well..but that`s an old thread isn`t it? Sometimes I do wish I could`ve gone to high school in the 50`s. That whole Innocent America (I know it`s probably the rose-coloured glasses and all) really appeals to me.Going to the Malt Shoppe with Your Boy.Wearing poodle skirts and sighing hopelessly about Bobby Junior.Doing the Locomotion at birthday parties! Jukeboxes. Putting posters of Paul Anka up on your walls.Paul Anka got much more cooler in the 70`s though didn`t he? I don`t like that Diana song (he warbles) but I like that hippy one `You`re Having My Baby! I`m a woman in Love...etc` Ah sorry Blake that my spot in your heart has been taken.It`s exam times here. And NO,not the fun exams like the university people do,the horrendous,reduces me to tears ones. The university ones look fun.I`ve seen the students...all they do is is sit out in those lovely cafes on warm summer evenings and drink! No,I`m not bitter. Just because they all have their,ooh,hip univeristy girlfriends and they probably do all these artsy things,I`m not bitter. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister photos
by katrina house 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

hi, does anybody else think that trousers looks like jonathon from mercury rev in this picture ... http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-local/photo.cgi?gallery=picnics&photo… no wonder his list crush hits are through the roof ... :) k. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r@jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Paris and Schools
by janetzx 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

Dave Wrote: All I rally wantd to say was that going to school and having th bst or worst tim is what maks you into what you ar now, and if your happy with yourslf now (which I am) thn thats all what counts and in som way th tratment that you got at school hlpd turn you into that. I'm not contradicting this - in fact I agree entirely. BUT school is not the only place which makes you who you are. University changed everything for me - I was a bit of an outcast at school, though I made some very good friends in 6th form, when classes were merged so social groups changed completely. School creates a cycle which is sometimes impossible to get out of if it goes wrong, because you see the same poeple every day. There is often no freedom to change your situation, because everything stays the same. So, people rarely change their opinion of you - and it is so easy to bitch about the same person over and over again out of lazy, unimaginative habit. I know I've been there from both sides. I was lucky at Uni - a slow starter, being shy, low self confidence and all that. I went to the bar once in first week, cos I thought i should, and sat alone at a table feeling REALLY stupid til some caring 2nd year bawled over "OY! ARE YOU A FIRST YEAR? Come and meet another!" who happened to be on the same course, and a really nice guy, not into arsing around with conventional social brownie-points. So, it rolled sweetly from there - he is now 3 yrs later one of my best friends. A heart-warming story. Some of my friends have not been so lucky, and it's taken them literally years to meet people they feel comfortable with (usually cos they were made to feel useless at school) Funny, but shy people with low self esteem often end up hanging around together. And having a great time. Thankyou very much. My point is: School can be a twisted place, and give people warped ideas about who they are/ how good they are etc. Though, as Ailsa says, your experiences at school affect your behaviour for years/ forever, they are not by any means the end of the story. Uni made me much more who I am now (um....a student :-)) than school did. I met people who had been very popular, but saw no reason to sneer at those who hadnt, also people who had been given a far harder time at school than I had - no need to tell you who found it easier to make friends. I went with an "oh great, no-one knows me, I can change my personality to something I like" attitude - which I soon realised was unnecessary: people did not have the habitual prejudices that developed through school, and were mainly welcoming and curious about other new people - not curious in an intrusive way, but in a "give you the benefit of the doubt" way - an attitude which has not gone away, even after 3 years. People who were ignored when in first year (I'm thinking of them wot I mentioned before, who are shyer than me) are getting to know people they bloody well ought to have got friendly with years ago - but it just didn't happen. For reasons Ailsa has articulately (as always) articulated. Long post. eeuch. be happy. go to picnics. don't stress. um...I've reread this and cringed, but it's a 3rd attempt,. so... love Janet. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Paris and Schools
by David Andrew McNicol 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

Hi, I'm hoping that there might be someone out there who knows Paris, and could suggest some good night spots, since I'm going out there in a week and could do with the advice. If you could email me privately and let me know that would be great! Th "e" ky is not working proprly so just add an whn it looks lik it neds on - sorry. On th subjct off schools and how popl found thm, I have to say, that I found school th worst tim of my lif. My background didn't hlp - my dads a ministr, and I went to school all ovr as w always had to mov, whn w finally did stay in th on plac it was in Glasgow, Scotland, and I had (and still do) an nglish accnt. Now for anyone who dosnt know about the hatred that som Scots harbour for the nglish thn your lucky, but lts just say I had 6/7 yars of bing called nglish (which I'm not!! - that mad it worst) and bing bullid for that, as wll as othr things. But on th up sid, I think it may hav don m som good, sinc now I don't lt things get to me at all which in som ways is good. All I rally wantd to say was that going to school and having th bst or worst tim is what maks you into what you ar now, and if your happy with yourslf now (which I am) thn thats all what counts and in som way th tratment that you got at school hlpd turn you into that. Sorry for babling off, but it is a prsonal issu, and I just had to say somthing. Uni computrs ar BAD, and I'm sorry if no one can undrstand what I hav writtn (which may b a good thing). Dave -Enjoy life and everything you do in it- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: um...ooh..
by Tim 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

I love Teenage Fanclub. no, really i do. And that's just about all I have to say. Well, not quite. I lied. One of those habit type things. On the subject of Teenage Fanclub....Did anyone record them on the evening session on Lamacq Live this Monday?? On the opposite side of my undying love, what I hate are exams. Another three weeks of delightful torture, although I've found that listening to If You're Feeling Sinister is a big help. That and Looper of course, because I've never heard an album quite so light, and good though! Can anyone tell me what the Snow Patrol album is like? I bought it last week, but still can't be arsed to listen to it, which is really quite worrying, but I keep putting Grand Prix on my stereo. Must make a decision on Bowlie 2. Hmm................ Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: run on, run on
by Mike Jones 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

aloha everyone. i bought franny and zooey the other night. so far, i love it. keep in mind i'm only on page 20 at this point, but i highly doubt my enjoyment of the book will decrease. i just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent me emails and to those who posted. yr all such wonderfully kind and courteous people. ok...aloha fr now. hope everyone is ok. love, mike j adrock(a)netrom.com coming through my speakers: play, the new moby record. has anyone seen mike mills's video fr the song run on? ohh i love mike mills. i met him at a sonic youth show in nyc last summer, along with cibo matto, who's new LP is out on tuesday...can't wait. ok im rambling. my apologies. aloha, fr real this time. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: dont want acceptance, dont want tradition
by Walkn10＠aol.com 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

I don't know...in a way TV and movies have done a fairly slipshod job portraying the American high school experience, or at least MY high school experience. Maybe it was just the school I went to (not exactly Phi Beta Kappa material) but there was a clear distinction between the "in" crowd (sports players, preppies) and the "outcasts" (punk kids, the brains) that was noticeable from the start. The rich kids and sports stars ran the school and individual classes and that apparently gave them free reign to make everyone else's life hell for their amusement. It was pretty sickening to a 15-year-old kid who had just graduated from a Catholic middle school where everyone knew everyone and the whole school went to everyone's birthday parties, etc. For my first two years in Northeast High I was a huge punk rock dwarf with Nirvana emblems on every flat surface and Fugazi stickers all over my locker; and as a result I was quickly tormented on a daily basis. They also disliked the fact that I hadn't gone to the "normal" middle school which was (and still is) the roughest school in Maryland with regard to drug arrests (yes, there are 12-year-old crack pushers) and class disruptions. I made the soccer team freshman year but all that served to do was to give the jocks and preps easy access to me because I had to feign "oneness" with them for the sake of the team and whatnot. It was kind of fascinating because I could actually see the inner working of the "popular" machine, but most of the time I was just fighting not to get locked in the bathroom by the other 20 kids on the team. By the beginning of sophmore year I realized how big of a farce the whole social scene was so I just removed myself from it as a whole and sat by myself at lunch and read books and started a band. Eventually I got tired of being a hermit so I made some new friends and for whatever reason the "in" crowd was now more than willing to except me now that I knew what an arbitrary bunch of arses they were (not to sound snobby but I think my band had something to do with it because we were the most popular act in town). Needless to say I wasn't going to get burned twice, but it was a sweet revenge. With that sappy story in mind, I think Hollywood has actually been alot nicer to the cliques than they deserve. Anyone who went to a US high school and found themselves on the wrong side of the game can tell how depraved and evil most of these kids are. On TV the it appears the whole school is one big family united in the promulgation of school spirit. I had friends beaten up for wearing Marilyn Manson shirts (this was three years ago...just before he got hugely popular and these self-same jocks took to wearing his picture), I had brand new hats crumpled and thrown in toilets simply because the preppies found it offensive that I didn't think they were funny or smart, people had car windows shot out because they made fun of someone's girlfriend, etc. I'm not saying all this because it warped me for life and whatnot but its just somewhat distressing that the scenes of American high schools that people across the world are seeing involve actions and feelings that are largely, if not totally absent from reality. Like I said, maybe this doesn't happen to this degree everywhere, but I'll bet its pretty close. Signing off... Steve C> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Does Jarvis look better in leather or corduroys?
by Chris Jones 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

You can get a little book made by the Associated Board and loads of practice books. I taught myself up to Grade 4, but at Grade 5, I needed a bit of extra tutoring. If you have any problems on specific questions e-mail them to me and I'll have a crack at them. I can't find the book that helps you learn, but the practice ones are called 'Music Theory In Practice' and the ISBN for the Grade 5 one is 1-85472-494-0. Just ask at your local music store for the AB guide to theory though, they should know what you mean. Chris Jones. ---------- From: Robert Foster <untitled(a)compuserve.com> To: Sinister (E-mail) <sinister(a)Majordomo.net> Subject: Sinister: Does Jarvis look better in leather or corduroys? Date: 04 June 1999 17:27 Does anybody out there know if there is a book called "Music Theory for Dummies", I'm a dummy and I need help. My music teacher thinks I'm a fool, I just don't dig it. One of you lot must be able to understand music and you must of learnt from a book. Do you have the ISBN of it. Hey, if any members of B&S are reading, give me your ISBN's. Oh, is Sarah Cracknel really on this list? ============================== Passed the Pub that saps your body and the Church all they want is your money, The Queen is dead boys, it's so lonely on a limb. ============================== +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: An overprivileged whiteboy writes
by Mark Casarotto 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

Youn Jong Noh wrote: Is Mr. Dastoor of the Guardian wishing a sorry end to his fellow journalists, fanzine & e-zine editors here? Erm, Mr Dastoor, with your posh email address - remind us what you do at The Guardian? :P Regarding Emma and Miki from Lush and their disappointing voices - I can officially confirm that Isobel Campbell sounds like Louis Armstrong seeking to cure a heavy cold with an 80-fags-a-day regime - her speaking voice loosens bowels from 20 paces. And Leonard Cohen sounds like Chris Eubank. Honest. As I'm sure I've waffled before, I've seen Stereolab 15 times now but I don't have all that much desire to see them anymore as they are continually heading away from the things that made me borderline obsessive in them 4 or 5 years ago. i.e. the first album. And the second one, for that matter. However, I shall definitely be playing some 'lab at (ahem) A Night of Tigermilking, Upstairs at the Garage (Highbury and Islington tube - please someone tell me if that's wrong), Friday 11th June 1999 - all your fave B&S hits and practically every band you've heard praised on this very list, mainly thanks to Kevan Cooke's second-to-none record collection. I'm also plotting something rather special, but I don't know if it's going to come off yet, so shhhh.... Moving on, I always thought the Greek system meant up-the-bum sex. How little I know... I know loads of people are going to tell me how ridiculous this is, but...when I was younger (until my early teens, probably) my idea of an idyll was to live in a leafy American suburb with wide roads, driveways, big detached houses with little verandahs at the front, cute girls with fringes living next door - imagine Boy meets World, or wee Tom Hanks' neighbourhood in Big. I ought to point out that I live in something which I imagine is roughly its equivalent in England, so it's not exactly adventurous, or even longing for a better life. I'm not sure I can explain it, either - it just seemed so comfortable yet exciting, full of possibilities - probably because all the things that the American kids explored looked so much fun and expressed a more exciting culture and I just wanted to be a part of it. South London seemed so banal, though I betcha it's not half as banal as some of my little fantasies. The older I've got, the more sinister (small s) the whole notion of happy suburban family life has become. And the more I've heard stories of unhappiness, abuse, bigotry and all the things which were blissfully absent from my overprivileged 9-year-old life, the more I find myself wondering how I could have perceived this as nirvana. Even if discovering Calvin and Hobbes (there is nowhere near enough Calvin & Hobbes discussion on this list, though some may disagree) made me remember why it had seemed more attractive, it still strikes me as weird how this could have been such a dream for me. Well, the above 3 paras are very much self-indulgent waffling. I do apologise - but it was kind of nice to just speak like that. Pompous arse that I am :) I had the opposite school experience to Ailsa - in my (overachieving private boys') school, I got on fine with the cool set, the hard lads, the geeks and the simply dull. My principle friends were the indiekids, for want of a better definition - we all fancied ourselves as being that little bit more Bohemian and intellectual than the others, but not in too offensive a way - we were happy chatting about Ride behind out fringes and wandering off to listen to the Dead Kennedys and eat pot noodles and kit-kats at someone's nearby flat during lunch break. I even had friends in the year below me, which was pretty much unheard of, one of whom is still my best friend seven years later (the only downside was that it led to aspersions being cast on my sexuality, something which I sort of played up to (some may say I still do :))). Hmmm - middle class boy with mild superiority complex has untroubled childhood - not exactly thrilling, sorry :) I am *so* sorry for the length of what is possibly the most pointless post ever on sinister. Slapped wrists all round. Love Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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