June 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Come down off the cross, we can use the wood
by Newth, Tom 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Hi everybody. (having just finished, I apologise in advance for this having rambled so much. but it is my first post, so can I be forgiven?) My excitement at finally gaining a voice was only dampened by the fact of my conscience's dictating that I read the five million messages in my inbox before making use of it. But fun and interesting reading as ever. Sadly three years in the nursery or whatever it was has scrambled my mental notebook of things to say and in any case I wimagine most of them are no longer relevant. Not to worry - fresh irrelevancy is just around the corner. The first time I heard B&S was when a friend played it to me and said "Guess what this is". I couldn't, except I thought it sounded a bit like Smog. Which it doesn't (IYFS). But I was certainly taken, particularly as my supplier of leftfield North American rock and sixties throwbacks had given them the highest recomendation. At which point I went out and bought 369 and have never looked back (having everything I need). I honestly cannot remember when the discovery of something new has brought so much immediate joy into my life. I would give a little introduction of myself for everyone but there's not a huge amount to say. I don't know any of you (except JD Salinger) and as such was sorry to miss the Greenwich picnic, but Steam on the Metropolitan line had my favours for the day. We went on a steam train to Amersham and lunched in a pub before visiting Milton's cottage (run by an admirably dedicated fellow, though a complete loon) and getting on a steam train to come home. Sounds uninspiring, yes, and perhaps so, but a fun day was had by all. Particularly as we got to sit in one of those old first-class carriages on the way back, each secretly hoping that a majestic blonde/brooding Adonis was going to burst in with passionate kisses whilst the plodding officers of the law continued their search elsewhere. Anyway, is there another meet-up anytime soon? I think the point of most interest is that my job sucks. Or at least, of most interest to me. You can probably see what it is from the address. I would just say that if you ever entertain the thought of disposing of your "collectables" via our good offices, don't. But I am a little bitter at the mo. I had a few things I wanted to comment on..... I really like Hesse and Salinger and it's been great to hear so many other people do to. For the record, my favorite story in the world ever is The Laughing Man from 9 Stories (From Esme with Love and Squalor). Not too many stories can make a fellow as teary-eyed.... Someone mentioned The Prodigy by Hesse not so long ago. I agree - super. So good in fact that I read it all in one go. Should anyone have been spurred to investigate further, having read a whole bunch myself, my most humble advice would be to leave The Glass Bead Game until having checked out four or five of the others. It is jolly good, but really a superb digest of the rest of his work which makes the other books seem a bit flat, unless you've got to the stage of wanting to read every word. The best two otherwise to my mind are Steppenwolf and (especially) Narziss & Goldmund. But that said, I recall someone on the list saying a while back that it was all twee pseuo-mystical drivel, which is nearly a fair point... Les Enfants Terribles - the film is by the wonderful Jean-Pierrre Melville if that's of any help to the person who was looking for it. French. 1940's. I know this list should not be abused for "Films/books I like..." but for some reason B&S are linked in my mind with Walden by Thoreau. This may perhaps be because I read it at the time when I was really heavily getting into the band, but it may also be because of the ornery loner/different drum similarities. I have given up expecting anyone to follow my advice and read it. My girlfriend gave up after 30 pages, the my North American rockchick friend was horrified when I sent to it her for Christmas ("I fucking hate that book.." - aren't you meant to lie when you get presents you don't want?) and no-one else seems inclined to touch it with a bargepole. But I think it is wonderful and it is also Rock Hudson's favorite book in All That Heaven Allows. The other thing that reminds me of B&S all the time is one of my favourite records, that is Heads & Tails by Derek Griffiths. I should be most interested if anyone else out there knows it (apart from JD Salinger, who I know appreciates the odd songs scattered through compilation tapes). He sings about a fox, though not in the snow. And a proboscis monkey. (incase of forgetfulness, and with apologies to non-Brit listees, he was one of the playschool presenters circa Brian Cant era. He wrote the all the songs and sings and plays everything on the album himself. Whilst, if the sleeve photos are anything to go by, monged out out of his head) (oh, and this is not a covert attempt to resurrect the kiddies' programmes thread by the way..) I have done moderately well at converting friends and neighbours to B&S, although the last person I made a tape for lost it for a month, found it, and told me the next day it made her want to slit her wrists. Oops. I am sad to see so many people dissing Lydia (if that is her real name) and Spain's entry to Eurovision. I was the only person at our party to give it more than 4 points, if only because of the excitement generated at the thought that she might pull that odd heart-shaped thing out of her decolletage and tear it up in an emotional climax to the song. My favourite bit was Portugal's guitar solo. My apologies for reverting to old threads but a) where oh where can I get the Dr Pepper gum that someone mentioned ages ago? and b) I know someone who got a vibrating love egg stuck up their bum. Not very pleasant apparently. (and no, that's not a roundabout way of saying it was me - the best I've done is a sugarpuff up my nose and bacon rind wrapped round my tonsils). Did anyone else visit Dungeness after Bowlie? If you're all going to All Tomorrow's Parties I cannot reccomend it enough. Weird shit. I know there was at least one other chalet there while we were (by their battered old Super8 cameras shall ye know them) who seemed to dig it as much as we did. It really is too extraordinary a place to pace up a visit of at such a short distance away. JD Salinger told me they used to film Dr Who episodes there all the time, which (from my vantage point behind the couch, and before mum banned me from watching it) I can well believe. Seems like time to wind this up - apologies for the length again, but the first flush of voicedom has left me overflowing with tasty morsels that somehow seem worth passing on (no doubt until I get this arriving in my inbox..) You all seem like genuinely nice and interesting people, and I cannot comment on comparisons to other lists, this being the one and only for me, but it has been a real pleasure rading the archive/posts since I joined up. Love to you all Spoon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tigermilk Fun.....
by Elish Hope 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Hello out there. I hope you are all well and happy. I have been very busy these days making wedding dress's and invitations and stuff like that.... But I have enjoyed reading all your fun posts. Last weekend Eliott New and I had a little Tigermilk party of our own.... It was nice to listen to the album and stuff..... I think that Eliott especially liked seeing a real copy of TM in person in vinyl. :) So, anyway, despite the lack of TM being released here in the states just yet, we listened to it and had a great time!!! He even got to take home one of my photo's of Stu. Just for the record - the photo of Isobel that was in the Select article last month (the one where she is holding up a wee shaker) is MINE!!! Bloody fat cats at national magazines giving photo credit to some tosser I don't even know... Okay, no I feel vindicated.... :) Nice little article too, huh? Snoggs to you all elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: Transeuropean party conspiracy
by Alan Singfield 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Magpie Jay wrote: > The hosts are holding a mass 'blind date' next Saturday and they were > inviting selected people. I managed to score an invite. They have emailed > 100 people a questionaire on their lives and loves, and are going to match > everyone up with a stranger. Then we all sit down for a banquet and either > hit on each other or hit each other. I have a reservation that the real > conspiracy is that it is in fact a scam, as we have to pay up front, but I > have a blind trust in the people I met. I haven't been on a blind date > before let a lone a mass one, so am more than curious, if not apprehensive. > Not bad for a shybee! Oops! This sounds remarkably familiar to the strategy of "flirty fishing" performed by American religious cults to induce new members. They would induce new members by flirting, meeting first in pubs and parties, then progressively only being available through the cult. Before you know it, you've given them all your posessions and sacrificed your mother on an altar of burning pig carcasses! Mind you, I thought that most listerines would sacrifice their mother on an altar of burning pig carcasses for a signed copy of Tigermilk... Alternatively, it might just be a fun night out; let us know how you get on. Spanners. >--< +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Transeuropean party conspiracy
by Magpie Jay 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

The weirdest party i have ever popped in... *******BUT FIRST AN IDEA******* : Has anyone thought of compiling a list of Sinister members websites, and linking them all together in a sinisterines webring? There could be a sinisterine webring icon that every member puts on their page and links to other members sites connecting them in one big circle. _______________________ Anyway, onto the subject line I went to two most unusual parties last weekend, the first actually having some B&S content! It was a Eurovision song contest party in a small flat in Clerkenwell London, the invite stated that all guests must be on time for the start at 7.45pm, and come as a European country. I was arriving as Germany in military uniform, however due to staying out all afternoon watching the thunderstorm in a friends back garden (with the Doors riders on the storm bellowing out from his speakers in a cheesy feelgood moment) arrived very late. To cover for my lateness I burnt and shredded much of my clothing covered myself in fake blood and pretended that my Hindenberg had been blown up over the Hanger Lane Gyratory system. I made my entrance spouting fake german vulgerisms and crying sabotage during the scoring..only to find everyone neatly dressed in party clothes. Mightily embarassed I scarpered to the bathroom and changed. It was a Eurovision party, but all the guests were Glaswegians. Towards the end of the evening I suddenly noticed to my joy, a chap in the cartoon kids B&S T-shirt. Half drunk I pointed to him and cheered, he was a little startled at first, but soon realised what I was smiling at. I asked if he was on Sinister, but he hadnt heard of it. It turns out his name is Craig, and he actually plays football with Stuart Murdoch every week! He has a copy of Tigermilk, and wants Stuart to sign it, but feels really bad and awkward about asking. I tried to pursuade him that it would be a worthy addition to his life and advised on how to subtly gauge Stuarts opinion on whether or not he would be offended or irked. I told him as they were friends anyway, Im sure he wouldnt mind. I like to think hell get his signature this year. And for what its worth , I think Iceland should have won. The weirder party was on Sunday. Me and some friends met some random guy in a Soho pub on Friday and after five minutes he invited us to his party. I was convinced the party was some sort of sociological experiment with hidden cameras just like the Channel 4 Tourist Trap. Nearly everyone at the party had only met this guy, Danny, once in a pub and been invited. His house was full of complete strangers yet everyone was touchy feely and there was an overiding aura of fluid asexuality about the place. Even more bizarrely, the nationality of guests was extraordinarily diverse, with people from Sweden, Israel, England, America, Ghana, Germany, Slovakia, Finland, France, and several eastern block nations. The scariest of all were the Norwegian girls. They were very beautiful and faerie looking, but there was this one girl who looked like Jodie Foster and ran around biting everyone, which was un-nervingly enjoyable, yet ultimately scarring. It felt like we were all put together for some kind of test or audition, I voiced my concern at the conspiracy and sure enough, the objective was exhumed. The hosts are holding a mass blind date next Saturday and they were inviting selected people. I managed to score an invite. They have emailed 100 people a questionaire on their lives and loves, and are going to match everyone up with a stranger. Then we all sit down for a banquet and either hit on each other or hit each other. I have a reservation that the real conspiracy is that it is in fact a scam, as we have to pay up front, but I have a blind trust in the people I met. I havent been on a blind date before let a lone a mass one, so am more than curious, if not apprehensive. Not bad for a shybee! Catch ya on the keys, Jay http://www.members.tripod.com/john_kerswell/star.html "What is it up in the air for? It's gonna fall." -Mr Stipe. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Twaddle my Paddle
by Sleeka Sounds 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

I've been in bed with the killer flu since sunday. I got chills, and ohhh burny fever. In the midst of my illness I had my first Trousers dream. I'd close your eyes if you are of shaky disposition, or if your name is Trousers. In my dream I went to visit Stevie Trousers. He was doing a new piece for Papercuts, which involved taking rapid photos of himself bollock naked as he scraped at his crotch region, screaming "TWADDLE MY PADDLE, TWADDLE MY PADDLE, YOU BASTARDS". Then I woke up. Tell you what, he's a lot hairier than you'd imagine. I feel quite dirty after typing that, but I imagine I've done Trousers list crush tally a world of good. On a lighter note, hello to everyone I met at the weekend, you're all lovely. Gosh, it's nearly the weekend again. Fancy that. Lovely lemsip. It's legal heroin, you know! Regards, Sort of chris =================================== Visit the Sleeka Sounds Corporation http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "momentum makes my head pondrous and heavy"
by Marie Elia 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

dearest listerines! ah, how nice to be sitting in my windowless, badly furnished little office today, sneaking peaks at my mail, and see you all load up my mailbox with lovely smut -- especially lesley jo's subject heading about isobel whipping out her, erm, yeah. ("suck my left one!" -bikini kill). and thank you LJ and -- oh, who was the other one? a boy, i think -- for assuring me of the existence of tigermilk bars.... now, as far as i can remember, the lilys have been mentioned twice on this list recently. and i'm intrigued, also b/c a band i saw recently -- i think rainer maria -- the drummer was wearing a lilys tshirt. it looked like stu m's felt shirt, but saying lilys instead (duh -- but, you know, the same lovely round lowercase black letters). oh, my point! please tell me about these lilys!! why is no one excited about tortoise at bowlie 2? granted, i can't imagine what they'd be like live, but i thought the same about stereolab... aaaaaaaaaaaaah! i went to the roolz page! props to all you boys! that was fabulous. what was that about stuart m. being in a band once whose sole purpose was to create as much publicity as possible without actually making any music? am i making that up? i swear i read it somewhere... do you boys actually make music? the gentlewaves were reviewed in SPIN. i won't bother -- it was negative of course. but they Did give RainerMaria a good review (damn, i am on a rainermaria KICK. must be cuz they're so fucking good.) okay, my dears. i have now spent 2 days in the corporate world of manhattan. i work for The Man. and i need a break, quite frankly, although my company (which is made up of quite nice folk) are throwing a party for the employees at the Supper Club tomorrow night, so that's a perk... oh, yes, my point: i hereby request that all nyc/nycArea sinisterites email me or something so we can get on our way to a nyc pic-a-nic. do it now, and we might organize it by august! :) good night, all. love, marie "when you're ready to read between the lines, and the paper isn't telling you anything" -rainermaria _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Wacky Lyrics
by David Moore 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Hey Boy Hey Girl, Thanks to that nice Mr Nick Dastoordly for another helping of bellnsebastianlyrics. Also for the Washington Irving extract (I have to confess I didn't know the origin of that bit from "I Crowdie Dreaming"). I 'pologise for my pedantry (parental pair pedagogues), but I postulate: Times grew worse and worse with Rip Van Winkle as years of matrimony rolled on; a tart temper never mellows with age, and a sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use. Although tart tempter is altogether more Sinister :) Good to see Looper opening for Motorhead (sorry - can't do diareses in plain text): when I last saw Lemmy with Hawkwind they didn't have a support, especially Stacia, boom, boom! I think I'll give All Tomorrow's Farting a miss, as anyone expecting to see 5 bands on Friday had better start queuing the weekend before (the Topless Dominoes Weekender). Its a deal Mr H!O!Pkins: that Hannon bloke is owed some serious torturing for all that he's inflicted on us. (Although incarceration in a wood shed would be more fitting.) Send me your address & I'll rush you some tree-hugging hippy crap pronto, with added cosmic dragon-flying hyperdrive on the side at no extra charge. Tune into Channel 4 now for the Lou Reed documentary, That's All Folks, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Ralgex
by Jygsaw18＠aol.com 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

In a message dated 6/2/99 3:50:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, robhalcrow(a)lineone.net writes: << "Paul, I think I told you, I'm a lover, not a fighter' Michael Jackson >> What a wonderful list. Where else could one hear lyrics from "Thriller" quoted in this day and age. Though, from the modern perspective, perhaps the song should have been called "The Pre-Pubescent Boy is Mine". Mikey seems to like them that way. The other day a friend and I turned "Thriller" up quite loud and danced in a parking lot. I attempted to moonwalk in the rain and puddles. I think that we terrified a good many people dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: It's a Crying Shame....
by Elish Hope 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Due to the volume of emails I thought I would do a general post - sorry for the sloppy seconds.... I wasn't in DOW I was in (for a brief pan of the camera) in Century of Fakers.... That's okay, no autographs please.... Does someone have a bucket to vomit in? :) Just wanted to clear that up. Snoggs Elle PS - Much to Eliott's disapointment I still have my Tigermilk.... Wee cheeky bastard.....! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Laddies and Gentlewaves, El Zober!
by EliotNew＠aol.com 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

RE: Elle and Eliot weekend meetup: All true. Exciting things are happening in Aloha. Elle was gracious enough to marshal a private parade of B&S obscura that passed in front of only me. Mugs, badges, Stu-made t-shirts, tour passes, candid photos, 'Weathershow' single whose sleeve photo she took, and a teasing three-track of videos (on the forbidding format of PAL) including DOW which I hear she appears in. On and on. Of course a mint pressing of Tigermilk which, she doesn't know but, I swapped the disc out of, leaving a world weary copy of Boots Randolph's 'Yakety Sax' in the jacket and sliding the Tigermilk record up the back of my shirt. And she's got lots of stories to tell. If Elle wants to meet up and show you some things, be advised to do so. Was delighted by vinyl twice that weekend as I corrected an alphabetizing error in my records which led to a DJ copy of The Channels 'The Stars In The Sky' being placed next to 'Maybe' by The Chantels on black label END!!! They just look so good together. Eliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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