July 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: My Life Stories
by Stuart Flanagan 11 Jul '99

11 Jul '99

Greetings to you all, Bizarrely, although Ive been on the list for quite some time, this is my first post. So Id probably better say that theres no B&S content ! Since there are periodic literary discusions here, I thought Id ask a little advice. In Dillons bookshop at the mo theres a special offer of 3 biographies/autobiographies for the price of 2. Im a bit undecided as to which ones to plump for, so I was wondering if anybody could help me narrow down my shortlist ? Heres what I like the look of... ALAN BENNET - Writing Home CHRISTINE BIELENBERG - The Past Is Myself DIRK BOGARDE - Short Walk From Harrods ROALD DAHL - Boy/Going Solo ANNE FRANK - Diary Of A Young Girl ALEC GUINNESS - My Name Escapes Me BLAKE MORRISON - And When Did You Last See Your Father ? FRANK MUIR - Kentish Lad KENNETH WILLIAMS - Diaries If anybodys read any of these and can recommend them - can you let me know ? For the record heres some life stories Id recommend : JEAN-DOMINQUE BAUBY - The Diving Bell And The Butterfly STEPHEN FRY - Moab Is My Washpot HELEN HANFF - 84 Charing Cross Road RUTH PICARDIE - Before I Say Goodbye Thanks Stuart +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Shouldn't That be Tigressmilking?, or Tigersuckling?, Amongst Udder Thoughts
by David Moore 11 Jul '99

11 Jul '99

Hi Sinistaurs (& Select journalists), Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip. That's the sound of me undoing my cardie before I sit down to type this. Maybe if I get carried away, & if you listen carefully, you'll be able to hear the sound of me bouncing up & down in my chair later ;) What a silent, stealthy, Sinister weekend we're having, at least for a digest receiver. I guess everybody is too busy living, or maybe listening to their copies of Tigermilk. Which, in between colouring Pam's hair, disinfecting the cat's litter tray, stuffing my fat face with every different kind of cake, (& trying not to get my weekend chores mixed up!) is what I've been doing. Oh, & thanks to the Jeepster Peeps concerned for keeping their word & getting Sally & me our copies on Friday morning. Mmmm. Wierd. Listening to a legal copy of Tigermilk. What's the difference? Out: that slight buzz from listening to something slightly exclusive which took a little effort to blag a copy of, crackles, & that big scratch in We Rule The School. In: blimey, lots of things! Little piano parts I never heard before, loads of vocal parts on Mary Jo (& Stuart's Michael Caine impression), actually being able to make out the words of the Rip van Winkle extract Isobel reads, hearing Richard's drum bits (he uses brushes a lot, doesn't he?), a cover picture, printed lyrics, a tanktop, piano black CD case base. Oh, & its disappointing to find out that Struan doesn't really sing "the centre of my so-called penis" in My Wandering Days Are Over. A pretty amazing record, considering the the circumstances in which it was produced. I already like more of the songs on it than the half dozen I rated before :) especially I Don't Love Anyone, (although that started at The Bowlie, seeing the passion with which it was delivered.) "Kids From Stow" - that sounds good. Could be the title of a TV series, or a film. Surprised to see that its JPRCD007: why not 0 or -1? Hope that Mr Joe Todger* was found so that he could get his royalties or whatever. Thats All, Folks. I promise to try & be less on-topic next time :) Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK * I know, I'm really sorry, but sometimes I just can't stop myself. Time of life. I apologise. Profusely. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: where the clouds are made of candyfloss...
by andrew dean 11 Jul '99

11 Jul '99

um, several people have asked but i don't think anybody's replied. here's the camber sands set list. the highlighted things are the stuff radio 1 played the other day: * slow graffiti * seeing other people * dog on wheels * wrong girl century of fakers i know where the summer goes * winter woofkie (/wooskie, whatever) simple things * if you're feeling sinister * i don't love anyone * paper boat * the boy with the arab strap * photo jenny landslide * lazy line painter jane the kids are alright seems a bit odd that they left out the two highlights (landslide, the kids...). it also struck me as strange that whilst they cut out most of the between song banter or gaps both of stu d's introductions were left in. if anybody wants a minidisc copy of this then i can do one for you, just email and we'll sort something out (it'll probably mean sending me a blank md and return postage). also, my bowlie photos are now on my website home.clara.net/koogy/photos. i don't think i've mentioned these before. i've certainly not had any complaint from trousers yet which makes me think he hasn't seen them. there aren't any of the band, just the sinister massive. oh, and all 4(?) eps are currently being sold in the '3 for 10 pound' offer thing in my local virgin store (and i guess all the others around the country) so you can go and buy them if you don't already have them. actually, 3 for 10 quid isn't that much of a bargain but at least they are available. go and buy them kids, rather than getting some strange boy to tape them for you. this way you get the proper thing and the band gets to eat (or buy more star wars merchandise, whatever) oh, vaguely related note: there's a thing on bbc2 on fridays called 'Songwriter's Circle' and this week it had john cale, chrissie hynde and nick cave on it, all doing songs acoustically. was a bit self indulgent actually, maybe they ought to rename it 'Songwriter's Circle Jerk' (boom, tish!). anyway, next week it's chip taylor, nick lowe and jimmy web. oh, news from the LA gig was that stu d seems to be enjoying it. 'he was happy and chatty, nothing like he usually is'. no news as to if he's still wearing that same t-shirt though. maybe, like einstein, he has a whole stack of identical outfits so he doesn't have to waste time in the morning wondering what to wear. night, andy (off topic wittering follows) john, did you get the video? beth posted it from work and that usually takes a couple of weeks longer than normal. (btw, it's another line from 'white horses', i've used it before...) starry: >Why don't you go back outside and talk to trees, or whatever it is you DO dexter's laboratory, "deedeemensional" and i claim my 5 pound prize... 8) >What the fuck is "drill'n'bass" anyway! i think the phrase was dreamt up during an aphex twin interview in some music paper. it basically means the stuff he does, twisted techno bollocks, anything that sounds like a cross between techno and tools basically (the clue was in the question as les dawson always used to say on blankety blank). see also: mu-ziq, squarepusher. i could be wrong. been back from LA for about two weeks now (but this is my first post since). apologies to whoever mailed suggesting we meet up but i left hours after my last post and didn't check my inbox again until i got back. have spent those last two weeks trying not to spend any money and am having a miserable time of it, stuck in the house most of the day eating bread and water*. i ought to get out more. so if anyone has any, oh, HOUSE WARMING PARTIES in, i don't know, the SOUTH EAST LONDON area, and want to invite me then feel free... *(but, to be honest, not only bread and water.) went to palm springs whilst i was there, girlfriend's high school reunion and all that. it was only june and it was already 110' there (44' in english). and people choose to live there, retire there even. why? (in england people start complaining the minute it gets above 20'). actually the timing of my trip was all wrong - having suffered geri spice plugging her new lp in england before i left i got there to find that she was plugging her new lp on every chat show going in america. i get back and have to suffer ricky martin all over english tv having suffered him all over american tv. ditto all the star wars episode 1 stuff (to spoil it for the english people who won't see it until friday - they all die in the end, ewan, the small kid, liam, darth maul, princess armadillo, all 'father ted') and, i'm sure, in a few weeks i'll be bombarded with 'do i make you horny baby?' all over again. argh. i completely missed the riot in london and the results of the european elections though so if anyone can fill me in on the details... missed the 2nd and 3rd episodes of that sunday night channel 4 program on modern art too, the others have been excellent (lots of footage of my favourite painters, er, painting. didn't even know that rothko chapel existed until i saw it on there...) and i'd like to borrow the two i haven't seen if anyone has them on tape. cheers. that oasis advert pisses me off. the one with the dolphin impersonation in it. i don't know why. i much prefered frutopia and the cocteau's backed kaleidoscope adverts were so much better than 'are you looking at my bird?'. the paprika pringles advert gets up my nose too. 'is it that flavour?' pah. oh, dawson's creek, must dash... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister:a question for those at jeepster
by Jygsaw18＠aol.com 11 Jul '99

11 Jul '99

all you listees cover your ears and eyes: this is for the folks at Jeepster. Sorry, but I don't have their email address A quick question: a friend of mine is coming to Glasgow sometime next week.. would it be possible for him to come by and see Jeepster, take pictures, whatever? or would that be an interference? Also, I got a copy of the B&S documentary; do you object to me making copies of it if I only charge what it cost me to duplicate it? I had to pay a company to transfer it from PAL to VHS... email me privately, not the list, since I am sure they're quite tired of this sort of thing by now. apologies to the listmummy for abuse of the list dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: zero friction racing lubricant and shoutcast
by Alex Davies 10 Jul '99

10 Jul '99

firstly a link to an excellent shoutcast server http://the-sweeney.dynip.com/ lost of B&s on playlist including some live stuff I am currently wading through the 200+ messages that i have declined to read for the past few weeks and now I have decided to tackle the task and I am find Sinister a very odd mailing list.....probably representative and B&S fans in general. On most other mailing lists the post are breif, often inflammatory and generally nothing seems to serious (ie Modlists) however a lot of post here are almost confessional...dear Diary stuff. It's odd how many people are under the assumption that being a B&S fan means we all share the same mindset and are all Soul Mates, which I find vastly amusing. Me thinks perhaps it is because of the median age of listees, late teens, early 20's. hmmmmmm not that I am really complaing too much I find many of these posts very amusing.......I especially am finding Lesley J Miller's contiuning 'artgirl' story good. Its funny the whole Smiths thing coz there is the mention of the music differences between B&S and them and one listees mention of the cult of personality surrounding them. I am sad to inform you that the same myth is being bulit up around B&S. It is not built upon the physical look of one person etc the whole Morrissey theing but the sense of community...ie Smiths fans feeling the same, the sense of depression, outsideness etc is very much the same with B&S fans, just look at the confessional output here and think about it. The 80's 90's comparison is interesting because while in the 80's i think it was more acceptable the idoltorize (sp?) a singer, as in the Moz, but today young people are so concerned with not appearing to like anything at all, the whole dissaffected thing, that B&S's lack of focus on who they are, the 3rd person song writing, lack of publicity, meshs perfectly with the 90's.....and sadly I believe this is being carefully orchestrated........... I am not critcizing B&S I still like their music but I think many fans really have to see the reality of this movement, which after all is still based on a commercial, pop, money making band. umm did any of my rambling meld together into something conherent perhaps I should write and clearer essay on my thoughts Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: NYC picnic news
by Laurel Girvan 10 Jul '99

10 Jul '99

there's been a slight change of plan in the picnic location. you're still welcome to meet miss minka at her assigned spot at the bottom of a big hill, but we've moved the picnic blanket location to the TOP of the big hill. if you don't want to climb the stairs up the big hill, you can take the A line train, get off at 190th street (and overlook terrace), and proceed north on fort washington avenue into fort tryon park. as you promenade through the park, you'll approach the cloisters museum (ya can't miss it, kids). us lazy folks (ben, this means you) will be staked out with our blue picnic blanket and our soccer ball in some grassy spot on the near side (south west side, says my walking compass) of the cloisters building. and, to increase your picnic-ing pleasure, we have an endorsement from the gay universe cruise spot, giving it a 4 out of 5 for safety and a 4.5 (!!) out of 5 for "Action," whatever that means. if you show it to your mum i'm sure she'll explain everything. (but take a tip from me: don't go through the park when you're on your own, etc. does this count as "living the songs?" i love you all, laurel *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Doth thou desire the power?
by Gary Lawler 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

My my, I have a bit of spare time. That's the problem with working for the summer: it might be providing me with a little extra cash, but I think I'd prefer to laze about like I was able to do a few years ago and read this list instead (which I haven't been able to do in a while . . . grrr). I didn't pre-order Tigermilk, but I'm sure that there'll be plenty available in Virgin or somewhere when it's made available here (which should be about the 13th . . . all I have to do now is come with a good reason for not turning up for work so I can run into town to get a copy :-)) Reading about other people's crushes kind of got me remembering about that one I had (WARNING: self-indulgent ranting ahead! Reverse course!) when I saw a girl that I had a kiddie crush on at the train station a while back. Very odd sensation, a sudden *snap!* of recognition and I know it's someone that I last saw about 7 years ago and they still looked great. Think she recognised me, but I didn't say anything to her anyway, which is an odd thing to do but made perfect sense at the time. I also had something to say about the dentist which I would write if I didn't feel this nagging guilt at the back of my head about wasting so much bandwidth with this as it is :-) Gary Lawler ----------------------------------------------------------- ICQ UIN: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 In the CD Player: "Transient Random-Noise . . .", Stereolab ----------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the day I bought tigermilk, for a litle more than a t-shirt
by Katarina Karlsson 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

Hello I had one of those good B&S days today. Firsti read an article about Belle and Sebastian in POP in the libraryand then when I spend some time in a music shop when I were waiting for my bus when I heard that thay played she knows she's losing it, and I slowly realised that it ment tigermilk! I went home and celebrated it with a Tigermilk juggling to the euphoria just befor totalexhaustion. And now my arms aches.... of happines. B&S make so fantastic good creative juggling music. Are there any other here that likes to juggle to such music? Try it, it is fantastic. And a revenge for all the basket and footbal in school that told the girl with ball phobia that I was unabel to ever learn to control balls. My tigermilk tape dosn't have to wory about this cd. It will always have a loved place in my walkman on buses and other good tigermilk places were i can´'t listen to the cd. But mabee Anna can make a statue of a statue of off big we rule the school letters and put it on some bus stop. Good night Katarina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Reminder to Scots.
by SSharp5210＠aol.com 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

Hi poptarts. Just a reminder to the Scots on the list (Yeah,all 13 of us) The B&S prog is on tonight so set your VCRs.I'm now heading of to T in the park,which should be nice.5 smelly unwashed people in a tent.Fun! Bye bye for the weekend. Steve the sunny natured fool. p.s Not the American Steve who was on earlier though. p.p.s Can I just call myself Steve S and be done with it?..Please? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: '...i hate hostipals...'
by Win Sanchez 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

Hate to tell you about this, but you will know in a day or so anyway... I was one of those lucky few who lost some feeling when I had my wisdom teeth out a few years ago. It was generally a hellish experience. First, I was alergic to the perkoset they gave me for the pain, so on top of being swollen, bleeding, with a mouth packed with gauze, I was also nausious. Then, after a day or so, I started eating again, and was surprised to find my tounge bleeding, as I had been biting it, and had not felt anything. So, back to the doctor for tests and such. Basically, he grabbed the tip of my tounge with gauze wrapped fingers, yanked it out of my mouth, and started poking it with sharp things. I was to cry out when it hurt. Only it didn't hurt much. Turns out I had lost much sensation on one half of my tounge. Doctor said that most would come back, sometime within a year, and thankfully, some did. It still gets alittle wierd now and then, but it functions normally still... It is right around then that I got into the Magnetic Fields, one of the best lyricists ever, if I must say. I remember rinsing my mouth with salt water to, "All the Umbrellas in London". Thats all for now.. -Winn -----Original Message----- From: 'Beeding Gums' JaMeS [mailto:eculb@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 2:45 PM To: sinister(a)Majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: '...i hate hostipals...' ...to quote Baldrick. I love Blackadder. One of the best comedy creations ever, methinks. Ooooww!!! ooh, the pain, the pain!! So ive just been to hospital and had my wisdom teeth removed- my gums are bleeding and swollen and my tongue and lips are numb. Im waiting in hope that i DO get feeling back, i was rather shocked when the doc said there was a 1 in 500 chance of having a permanently numb liip/tongue; doubly shocked when my friend whos having her wisdom teeth out said that her doc said the odds were closer to 1 in 10. YIKES!! dont do this to me please!!! I havent had the opportunity to fully use my lips or my tongue yet, it would be just my luck to come out of this with no feelings in them... ..Hooray!!! Could Honey/ or anyone give me, in the style of Lard, give me a big WAAAAAAP!! as i just found out that i passed my exams!! Yay me! just scraped a 2:1 average. not too bad i suppose. B&S content- havent received my copy of Tigermilk yet, fingers crossed it'll come tomorrow. Also, am wondering if anyone is going to the Annexe in London on Monday for the tigermilk promotion thingy. i dont know anyone whos going and was wondering if anyone from the list is planning on going. though if i did go i probably wouldnt be much good as i wouldnt be able to converse with anyone properly.... Tiger hugs, JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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