July 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: invitation to love
by A. Memon 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

dear love-lorn folks, there i was listening to bbc radio 2 and i realised i'd stumbled across the soundtrack to all your love-lost-love-found-love-yet-to-be-love-come-to-me stories.... gram parsons and emmylou harris duet of "love hurts." if not just for the line "love is like a stove, burns you when it's hot." those not initiated in this song - please seek it out, and overlook its potential to be cheesy (which it aint). now i'm reliving some Broadcast from bowlie...the song that goes "stop looking for answers in everyone's face." i thought they were excellent, and still can't get over my sour choice of watching mercury rev in the hope that kevin shields would turn up to play with them over dean and sean playing "blue thunder" downstairs. a doomed decision. that is all i wanted to say. now my conscience is clear. cheerio, a m o s +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: take me back to the atlantic breeze
by fountainhead 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

there was a guadalumpan chap who lived in the flat next door to me at university. he spent all year calling me 'gee'. whenever anyone phoned and asked for lee, he would insist that they muct mean 'gee'. t'confused the hell out of my dad. bloke selling tigermilk - you'll find that the market has crashed and originals are now worth 73p. i'm in a good mood, so i'll give you £1.12 for it so that i'll have a full set of original tigermilk table mats. sex education. when we were 12 our science teacher walked into class and said 'penis'. everybody burst out laughing and she refused to teach us sex-ed until the third year when we might have grown up. and finally. love. maybe there is no 'one' perfect person for each of us. maybe we each have several people who could be perfect. i hope so because i've met one person who i feel sure is perfect, but geography has cast it's evil spell over us. when i think of all the wonderful people that i've met before and since, it saddens me that 'she' is still the one that i think of when the subject of love rears it's spikey head. so is it really better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all? i'm not sure. i don't think that the last three years of lonliness are a fair price to pay for the snapshot of perfection that i still cling to. f. -- fountainhead(a)earthling.net busy - http://fly.to/balls doing - http://listen.to/chemex nothing - http://fly.to/fountain -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sex in schools
by jfowle＠umich.edu 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

SEX EDUCATION okay well, something that i still wonder about to this day is this. when it was time for sex ed in grade 7 why did the girls get 2 ENTIRE weeks out of gym class to learn all about it, when the boys reported a video in the lockeroom for 30 minutes and nothing more? at the time i was just mad that i had to sit inside on nice spring days, but really, altho i didn't learn much about sex in sex-ed...i wonder if the boys felt they missed out? and why on earth was there such a difference in what we were being taught? in the us sex is a strange thing. i've been told by educators that if kids know that condoms exist and see them well -- then they'll have sex. what?! apparently, some people (mostly those in charge) think that if kids don't know about something...they'll stay away from it. what? i don't get it. seems more likely we'll just go and figure it out for ourselves. MASTURBATION also in the afore mentioned sex ed class i remember the day we discussed the subject. basically, our teacher said. "masturbation. yes, erm, well. there's really nothing WRONG with it. " and that was that. i bet she was a masturbating mad-woman. i personally love to masturbate, have been for the LONGEST time, and walk around preaching the joys of sex for one with most of the other women i meet ... many of which appear entirely SUPRISED! by the fact that i'll even mention it. i don't know about the other 49 states, but in michigan, amongst certain segments of the population...i would consider it a taboo subject. so that's all. didn't intend to post two silly messages today, but such is life. jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: sex in school...
by Marianne Bratlie 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

>From: "Burke, Jeffrey" <jburke(a)cnc.com> >To: "'Marianne Bratlie'" <mariannebratlie(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: RE: Sinister: sex in school... >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:54:33 -0400 > >Hey there. >I'm on the sinister list but alas don't have a voice yet. :( >my personal experience on sex in school is not it doesn't lose the >excitement... >in the US they teach you the basic anatomy way before your anatomy looks >anything like you're seeing. then you really don't talk about it in a >formal >setting again that's when friends rumors and experimentation take over. >I think the US school system is particularly conservative compared to some >parts of the word...scandanavia from what I've heard is very >liberal..that's >why most americans are sexual dysfunctional :) > >Personally I remember getting taken into the music room with all the other >boys and being told all about reproduction nothing much about sex. at the >same time the girls were off getting told the same thing (from a female >prospective I'm assuming..) then we didn't really have anymore official >learning on in in 6th grade (12 years old...) we got a little more on >"human sexuality" in science class and we had a "health" class which I'm >assuming was supposed to be about that but we only talked about the evil >temptations of alcohol and cigarettes...it was taught by the high school >football coach so no wonder there ...:) > >I found a copy of "everything you ever wanted to know about sex but were >afraid to ask" a great book on sex written in the late 60's I think...it >was there I learned about masturbation and oral sex and all sorts of >helpful >things..school didn't do it for me... > >but later when I have my actual first sexual experiences...in college. (I >admit I was a late bloomer :) it was just as exciting as I could possible >imagine... > >that's just my 2 cents.. ...feel free to forward to the list if that's >acceptable...I'm not sure.. I've never seen a list where you had to observe >for two weeks before participating. but judging by the threads and >intellect >of the members it will be worth the wait > >hope all is well where you live. >jeff > >What sounds to you like big load of >trashy old noise >is in fact the brilliant music of a genius >myself... >and that music is so powerful it's quite beyond my control. >--Iggy Pop > >Jeff Burke >Content Coordinator, Popular Music. >www.townonline.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marianne Bratlie [SMTP:mariannebratlie@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 3:17 PM > > To: sinister(a)Majordomo.net > > Subject: Sinister: sex in school... > > > > .no, not having sex in school, > > > > ..when we are on the subject "teaching sex in school", I would like to >ask > > a > > question that has crossed my mind a couple of times. > > > > Do you think the lessons we are given ( I can remember getting the first > > one > > at the age of ten , or nine or something, and it has never stopped > > since..)has taken away some of the "excitement" connected to sex? > > > > I`m just wondering how it was when you discovered everything on your own > > (with someone, or yourself for that sake )- without having seen stuff on > > the > > telly, or been told in school "how to make babies"-and to always wear a > > condom, ....and so on. > > > > I`m not saying it`s not important to teach about sex in school, it is >very > > > > important, especially in todays society, and it`s nice that we can talk > > about sex openly too, but have we crossed some kind of limit? > > Has sex got to "commercial"??? (This is the right word, right?? It is in > > norwegian, anyway...) > > > > > > I`ll have to go now, > > hope I`ve made my point.my mummy will get upset if I don`t show up to > > dinner > > NOW.... > > > > take care > > xxx > > Marianne > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: time to write.
by Oliver 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

It seems all you regular guys are complaining about the lack of everybody else posting. There are many possible reasons for this including 1) They have such busy and fun packed lives that they just do not have the time to post 2) We haven't got anything interesting to say and 3) They can't be arsed. Guess what category I fall into (it's handily signposted with an inclusive pronoun) (I don't do english so I don't know what we is called in the jargon). Anyway, on to writing something not so interesting. I have a theory that Belle and Sebastian, for that is the subject of the list, have only a few different tunes and the last 3 albums and 4 ep's/singles have used up all the tunes. This theory is strengtheded by the fact that A Century Of Fakers and A Century Of Elvis have exactly the sametune, not to mention disturbingly similar titles (what are they trying to say? Elvis was a fake?). This is why it has takn so long to record the 4th album (I'm conveniently forgetting the fact that most of the members have been in their own bands) because the tunes have to be dressed up fancily. Also, I can't recall any song being about the first person - for example SHE's losing it, The State I Am In about a book someone wrote. So I hereby classify this genre Repetitive Tune Observational Folk Rigged Steps Beating Music. Has a certain ring to it don't you think. Although I prefer to call it RTOFRSBM. I suppose I'm going to have to contribute to a thread already, as if anybody cares and as if anybody is reading this. I am not a woman and hence I am proud to talk sniggeringly and euphamistically about giving the snake a good seeing to, or bashing the bishop, or....... but can you ever imaginge guys talking frankly about something like this? and sharing advice on how best to do it? The only way we can cope with talking about masturbation is to dress it up in code and laugh about it, in case what you're talking about is different and perverted and all your friends begin to hate you. The End Oliver +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: It's "Morgan - A Suitable Case For Treatment" starring David Warner.
by ISawUfall＠aol.com 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

It's "Morgan - A Suitable Case For Treatment" starring David Warner. i thought it also went by the title "oh Morgan!" but i may be very badly mistaken. at any rate, if any one can track this puppy down i'll be indebted to you....sexual favours, etc. i am in california by the way.... -dave! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sex in school...
by Marianne Bratlie 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

.no, not having sex in school, ..when we are on the subject "teaching sex in school", I would like to ask a question that has crossed my mind a couple of times. Do you think the lessons we are given ( I can remember getting the first one at the age of ten , or nine or something, and it has never stopped since..)has taken away some of the "excitement" connected to sex? I`m just wondering how it was when you discovered everything on your own (with someone, or yourself for that sake )- without having seen stuff on the telly, or been told in school "how to make babies"-and to always wear a condom, ....and so on. I`m not saying it`s not important to teach about sex in school, it is very important, especially in todays society, and it`s nice that we can talk about sex openly too, but have we crossed some kind of limit? Has sex got to "commercial"??? (This is the right word, right?? It is in norwegian, anyway...) I`ll have to go now, hope I`ve made my point.my mummy will get upset if I don`t show up to dinner NOW.... take care xxx Marianne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: They are one and the same, two teeny little bulls
by Gary Lawler 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

LOVE AND STUFF It has to be said, I've never really thought about this too deeply - but reading through everyone else's accounts it seems that it all has a different meaning to each person, and the whole discussion has offered plenty of tasty Brain Food for me to chew on for a long while yet. LEGEND OF THE LURKERS AKA, "The missing 950". This list is quite difficult to keep up with, so I'm guessing that a lot of people don't post because they're just skimming and are afraid that what they have to say has already been said in one of those unread mails. Or something. SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS "Should masturbation be taught in schools?" - bit of an odd question . . . isn't that where most people find out about it? :-) Indeed, there was some talk of sex education and it made me remember an old science class where we were asked to draw diagrams of both male and female reproductive organs and both my diagrams could have fit between the blue lines of my A4 refill pad. RELEVANT BELLE & SEBASTIAN CONTENT Would go here if I had any. THIS GREAT TREND Of making little headings is tops, and so I give a Medal of Skillful Brillantness to the person who devised it (I've forgotton who it was already . . . sorry! :-)). -- Gary Lawler ---------------- ICQ: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 ---------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: you must learn to speak Portuguese
by jennifer phillips-bacher 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

hello sinister. there's been some talk around these parts about the things that non-posters do when they're not not-posting to sinister. so, you really wanna know what i'm doing instead of posting? are you sure?!? well okay. i've heard that outlines are de rigeur these days, so I'll follow suit. here's what i've been doing: 1. RELIVING THE MULLET DISCUSSION If you search the archives, you'll discover that everyone's favorite 'do, the Mullet (aka hockey hair; the Short-Long), has been the subject of many a fine discussion. I can't get enough! I dream mullets. So today, I was "surfing" the "web" and came upon this lovely website: http://grove.ufl.edu/~paisita/mullet2.htm Make haste! 2. MAKING LOVE Often when I read my daily dose of sinister messages, my mind turns to that physio-chemical-emotional-mindfuck known as "love". A wise man once sang "Love, hoo!, good god y'all, what is it good for?" and I applaud his fine lyricship. Love shmove, that's what i say. Waging war is much more my style. The only way for me to successfully repress my feelings of warm gooey love for my fellow sinisterians is to build pipe bombs in my basement. My mum warned me that someday a nice fellow will come along and violently rip me away from Mistress Mayhem and I will be cradled lovingly in the arms of Lady Love, but after scraping my knees for the final time on the playing field of amour, I can only say, "Mum, you're a rotten liar!". Humph. 3. SUMMER READING LIST Maybe my current state of discontent has something to do with what I'm reading. I'm juggling "Nausea" by everyone's favorite existentialist Sartre, "Laughter in the Dark" by Nabokov, and "Lipstick Traces" by Griel Marcus. Here's what i've learned so far: 1. life is nothing but excrement. 2. marriage is silly because it all ends up in cheating and lying anyway. and 3. punk rock is the answer. or is it the question? For the rest of the summer, I vow to read nothing but P.G. Wodehouse. 4. THE WINDY CITY The time has come for me to leave America's Dairy State, Wisconsin--I'm heading south, baby! For anyone who is interested, I will be moving to Chicago in a matter of weeks, so if you're around the area, either a resident of the city or a visitor, please let me know, I'd love to make you Rice Krispie treats. I think a September meet-up would be terrific, maybe before/after the Magnetic Fields gig (9/17)? 5. FEMALE MASTURBATION 6. SWEET SWEET MUSIC Tigermilk has really rescued my summer from the death grip of heat and sun. I sit on my plush orange loveseat, eating blue popsicles and listening to "My wandering days are over" and "I could be dreaming" over and over and over again. In front of a fan. Naked. (ok, the last part is a lie) And how could the heat possibly get me down if I have Os Mutantes' "Baby" on cd? So, there you have it: the main activities of a sinisterian who never posts. Stay tuned til next time when I tell you all about making paper out of pulp. xoxo jenn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Thang yew
by SSharp5210＠aol.com 29 Jul '99

29 Jul '99

Hi kids. The working week is nearly over.Many thanks to the quite staggeringly beautiful listees who sent the filthy jokes...the one about the asthmatic lesbian was particularly good as was the "Incestuous sheep".Cheers boys and girls. Steve S xx p.s Someone asked about first kiss/music things.I now show myself up as an old git by remembering that mine was to "Boys" by sabrina.We'll never see the like of 1988 again *sniff* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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