May 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Here is the news
by Mr Smiley 07 May '00

07 May '00

Hello darling, I feel I should address some of the burning issues of today. here are the things I want to talk about: ------------Selling out-------------------------- Actually, no. I don't want to talk about it. It's just a completely absurd thing to talk about. It'd make more sense if I wrote a theory on what flavour condoms the Pope uses. But I'm not going to do that either. Sorry. ------------Twee--------------------------------- If you mean twee to be happy, skipping in the fields with rabbits naivety, then it's probably a bad thing. But what if twee is redefined in the context of Belle & Sebastian? As certain people have pointed out, B&S lyrics are far from naive. I consider myself to be a bit twee, but not in a happy, skipping in the fields with rabbits kind of way. I'm cynical as hell, and a miserable bastard. But I'm also some of the things you'd associate with twee. Like, I don't know, being afraid of girls I guess. It's all a matter of definition. I don't really believe in hiding from the world, just changing my perception of it to make things easier (I'm not talking about drugs here, by the way). So is that a bad thing? If so, I'll have to live with it. People *do* get doused in fuel and lit for being black, yes. And anybody that pretends this isn't the case is probably living by the negative definition of twee. But people also hug each other too. I'm not *that* cynical. maybe that's it, tweeness. Actually still believeing in human goodness. Probably not. ------------Primal Scream: Tossers?-------- I'd like to jump to the defence of Primal Scream. I mean I agree with Stuart to some extent about music being about art rather than politics, and I suppose if I had any musical talent and/or enough friends to form a band I wouldn't write political songs. But on the other hand, Exterminator isn't that political is it? Swastika Eyes and the title track are, and accelerator might be I don't know on account of not being able to hear the words. But the other stuff isn't really. I don't see how Kill All Hippies can be seen as political, seeing as the title just comes from that sample at the start. Anyway, bands having a cause like that can be a good thing. If it wasn't for Asian Dub Foundation I wouldn't know who Satpal Ram is, for instance. And if Radiohead can raise money for Amnesty International, then how is that a bad thing? Although, like Stuart says, a musician's political activities don't need to be plastered all over the NME, if they aren't, how will The Kids get their political education? Not from effing school that's for sure. ------------------------------------------------- Right, so that's all I've got to say. I'll crawl back into my basement now, byebye. Platonic hugs, Mike Email - smiley(a)rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk The Black Den - http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Jen goes to the sinister picnic (subtitled: Jen goes to the pub)
by Melissa Williams 07 May '00

07 May '00

> >Ps, I was all set to use a really grate word that meant hangover, but I >forgot it. > "Katzenjammer" is a really great word that means "hangover" in German. Literally it means "the wailing of cats." Melissa 'There was something they meant to say, but didn't: "And if we put the statue of the rhinocerous next to the tweezers, and walk around the room three times, learn to yodel, shave our heads, call our ancestors back from the dead--" poetrywise it's still a bust, bankrupt. You haven't scribbled a syllable of it.' --James Tate, 'Dream On' ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Jen goes to the sinister picnic (subtitled: Jen goes to the pub)
by JENOWL22＠aol.com 07 May '00

07 May '00

Hewwo, Yesterday I went to the sinister picnic, and met lots of people. Then I ended up going to the pub with them and drinking too much and getting served. And then people told me kind things like not to mix your drink, and how to hide the fact that you've been drinking from your parents, even if it did come too late. And Jason never did get round to explaining what eating from the bushy bowl meant. I also have to thank Calum and Lisa properly because they were nice and helped me get home properly. But I can't wait for the next sinister picnic! Today I took my friend to church, which was a mistake because she has a five second attention span. So she pretended to fall asleep and snore really really loudly, and sang rude words to the hymns. So I don't think I'll go with her again. I was playing IYFS in my back garden today, a bit quietly, but then the next door neighbours saw that I was happy, to they put on S Club Seven at full blast. You could hear it all down the road. So I went for a cycle, which was grate fun. I heard FISHYCLAP as well, because Calum loaned me it, and it is grate and they haven't sold out at all, so we can't all go and live with aliens, but I'm not going to talk all about it in case The Duke eats me and I'm really scared of him. Maybe we could go and live with aliens anyway. My brother is an alien. His blood is green, well, it's not really but it should be. He looks like an alien-rat thingy and he picks his nose and eats it in front of everyone and thinks Steps are grate. Maybe Pete Waterypants has stole his mind and replaced it with H from step's mind. Maybe H from step's body is going about with my little brother's brain in it, yeah! I think H stands for Hiccups because I've never heard H speak but I've heard him hiccup. I need to go and do maths homework and stop my brother from blowing up the world (he would and all, he think bombs are grate). Hugs, Jen Ps, I was all set to use a really grate word that meant hangover, but I forgot it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I let my heavy eyelids flutter
by Craig 07 May '00

07 May '00

It's been quite a while since I last pulled on my faded & ill fitting swimming costume and took a devil-may-care leap into the warm pool that is the Sinister list. And it feels good to be back. My apologies to the wee girl in the flouro water-wings, I just didn't spot you there - I hope the arm gets better real soon. Actually has anyone noticed the apparent demise of the plaster cast ?. Possibly modern medicine has now rendered them obsolete with some flash new advances in bone fixing gimmickry ?, but I'm sure in my teen years I was forever bent over a freshly plastered limb, felt tip in hand ready to pen something that passed as witty on a newly set compound fracture. Or maybe I just hung out with clumsy kids who didn't get enough calcium. B&S I think that all the talk about selling out isn't doing anyone much good. Personally as long as I feel the same thrill and weirdly happy feeling I currently get listening to their songs I don't really care how big and commercial they come, in fact I quite look forward to the day when you can't turn on the radio or telly without Stuart and pals popping up. How does a modern day version of Scooby Doo* with B&S travelling around in a snappily painted van solving mysteries sound ?. e.g. Stuart : "... and that's how they switched Ponies without the circus boy's knowledge Mr Police Officer" Creepy Fairground janitor: "Damn !. I would've got away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids with their haunting melodies and clever lyrics" Mucho thanks to Lucy and everyone else for their reports of Thursday nights meeting the press shindig, it all sounded rather grand. It was interesting to hear that the Band think Stuart's songs "The Model", "Don't Leave the Light On Baby" and "Too Much Love" are the highlights of the new album, I think we're all in for a treat when it comes out. Don't get me wrong as I like a change now and then but when it comes to the crunch I'd prefer a B&S album to be rather Murdoch heavy in the song writing department. I'm old fashioned like that. "BUT YOU'RE THE BEST BAND IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD EVER!". I love it when that kinda thing happens. Through a series of circumstances that even to this day I'm not sure of I once ended up going along to see the Spice Girls (tm) film a TV performance at the height of their popularity and was embarrassed and unnerved when the girl I was sitting next too suddenly stood up and started screaming "WE LOVE YOU EMMA" at the top of her voice. Ummm... I guess that's it for now, I probably haven't made a massive contribution to any on-going discussions but I just wanted to post again before I forgot how to. byebye, Craig x *sans Scrappy Doo obviously. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Rant...
by David White 07 May '00

07 May '00

Greetings, **MTV** I've read a lot about how B&S should be on MTV. For anybody who has not seen MTV2, (I think it's only on Digital but I may be wrong), then you should be aware that this channel is made for the likes of B&S. It's actually quite good, a sort of antidote to the bland playlist on MTV and plays alternative indie type music all day and all night. You can even email them your own playlist for an hour. I reckon if we all email them with a demand to show the new B&S video, we might just get away with it. Their address is www.mtv2.co.uk **TWEE** Regarding Nick's definition of twee, I have to say I agree with him. I do not consider myself in the slightest bit "twee", but still enjoy the music the band produce, which I would not classify as twee music either. I wouldn't mind betting a fair number of the people on this list would baulk at the idea of being twee. People who continue to live out this image of all B&S fans being twee do no favours for the rest of us or for the image of the band. I've seen interviews where both Richard and Mick both claim that the band are not in the slightest bit like how they are portrayed by the media. (See www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk on the QUOTES page.) On a lighter note... I still haven't heard the new single yet. I reckon the first time I'll hear it will be when I buy it. I suspect I might have heard a bit of it yesterday but can't be sure. The thing is I was listening to the football phone in on Radio 5 and they played a kind of jingle thing with background music that could only be described as sounding like the theme from Eurotrash (but it wasn't the theme from Eurotrash though). Was this Legal Man??? I remember Radio 5 used a Teenage Fanclub song for a jingle during the last World Cup, so perhaps it' s not too unreasonable to think that they might use Belle and Sebastian too. Anyway if anybody can shed some light on this I'd be grateful, <--Dave--> PS visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk cos the bulletin board discussion page thingy is officially "lonely" david(a)belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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dublin/Re: Sinister: Kebabs and Catchphrase
by nessa 07 May '00

07 May '00

hello I think this is the sort of thing that gets on honey's because although it has a lot to do w/ b+s it doesn't *really* at the same time... there are a lot of people from Dublin/Ireland on the list and if there is going to be meet ups and picnics everywhere for the new album release we should have one here too. Only mostly when you try to organise this kind of stuff on the jeepster board people don't really read it so the mailing list is better. Anyway. I'm proposing: a park, a picnic, on the 5th or the 4th because as far as I can remember thats a bank holiday weekend. Park: preferably one in town like stephen's green or iveagh park, behind harcourt st. anymore suggestions? or does someone else want to organise this because I'm slightly useless at this kind of stuff. >I am also launching a campaign against Is**el Ca***ell from a well known >group. Leaflets will be distributed around the glasgow area with the Anti >Pigeon McNuggets message and on the reverse, a luvverly picture of a donner >kebab with Isobels face in the salad bit and the word EVIL in big nasty >black lettering a the top. Pamela, you are a gruesome and disturbed girl. but you are also very funny. nessa xxxx --- ******************************************************************** ****************** get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: well, isobel has arrived
by the angel blackwell 07 May '00

07 May '00

k...i've fallen in love about 2wice this weekend... i have fell in love with lil' mr drake...then i fell in love with a certain listee who burnt all his cd's and sent them to me just because i was a fan... i am very appreciative... well...isobel has arrived as i performed "is it wicked not to care" in drag...very few people enjoyed this but then i did some dubstar and then i was a freak drag queen...i did it all with a great blonde wig and a black tie...no kerchief this time...but i do pad my ass... well...i'm now sittin in my bus t shirt...sans make up... love to you all... comment t'allez vous... the angel blackwell...it's now a stage name... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Kebabs and Catchphrase
by Pamela Tait 07 May '00

07 May '00

Hello. Attempting to be general, here, as it's my first post and all. Two topics I wish to discuss: Catchphrase and kebabs. Catchphrase - Let's face it, it's gone downhill. Not only have they axed Roy Walker (that silver haired sex God) but nowadays, they have this complete knobhead with a broken leg presenting it and giving away kites as so called prizes. And as for Mr Chips, well, he's not really a pixel star any more, just the highlight of another dreary night in front of the box. This prick with the stookie on gives away the most pathetic catch 'phrases' and really just talk a load of cat-shit. Next up on the agenda is kebabs. I had a conversation with my good friend Cookie Brooks and we spoke of kebab meat. My mate Angie used to reckon the meat on the roasting spit was an elephants leg. But me and the Cookster agreed that the meat is not what is swept up off the abbatoir floor, but what is *left* after they've swept up various internal organs. And have you ever eaten a pie and found a small white tube (about 1cm in length and a few mm in diameter) in the filling? It's a cows/ sheep/ goats ear canal. I speak the truth. I am also launching a campaign against Is**el Ca***ell from a well known group. Leaflets will be distributed around the glasgow area with the Anti Pigeon McNuggets message and on the reverse, a luvverly picture of a donner kebab with Isobels face in the salad bit and the word EVIL in big nasty black lettering a the top. Anyway, I'm off now to maybe do something constructive rather than send shit mails (GAWD, my first one and all!) to the sinister peeps. Remember my name, for it is Toffeecrisp (aged 18 and on a bender) Pamela xxx ...................................................... I AM OBSESSED WITH BOTTLE GREEN MINI COOPERS. FEAR ME.. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Mispellings
by Sam Walton 06 May '00

06 May '00

Dear all, Hi. Just a shortie today. I was looking at my Dog On Wheels box the other day, and noticed that Mick Cooke's name was spelt wrong. Is was spelt without the 'e'. Is this the same on all the EPs, or do I have something a bit special there? Sorry if this is common B&S knowledge, it's just I'd quite like to know. Anway, that's it. love and Hersey bars (my sister brought them back from America - mmmmmm)... Sam.x ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: is it wicked not to breakdance?
by The Narrow Wizard 06 May '00

06 May '00

hey folks just got back from the glasgow picnic (most of which took place in the pub) and we thought we'd say hi (sweetie came round for some hot chocolate) so ermm ...hi. <sweetie> 'lo how art we all this fine eve?? i is simply super!! :) and what a super day i had 2 :) <owen> yes a super day but the sun was out and now I've got a really red nose...I look even sillier than usual (those who know me will know that that's very silly) <sweetie> ach he doesnae look *that* silly ;P ooh aye didnae know what to say but then *ah!* inspiration!!! (well- owen) i may pop down down to london possibly maybe :) to celebrate well...the start of my highers...oh woe :( still...STUDY LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) <owen> 'fraid I won't be at the picnic on the 20th though as I have a bloody exam that day (yes a saturday....bastards) still it's my last ever exam so at least there's something to be pleased about <sweetie> well that is all fae us for now neway!!! bysie bye xox <owen> bye <ins sweetie> ooh original... With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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