July 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: all my friends are on their holidays
by jonnyfive 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

dear sini, back from holidays and i'm trying to read all the digests whilst simultaneously looking like i'm doing some work. all my friends have gone on holiday (i know some people with drugs, but then i don't need any) and i'm alone. i didn't leave my house (at all) for two whole days, but it doesn't matter. does it? when i was walking down the street on my lunch break last sat. i was singing photo jenny in my head, and i got to the "how will i get her? i don't know" bit, and just did the 'how will i get her?' part when the bloke walking past me sang 'i don't know'. far too strange, i had to have some bacon crisps and a lie down. electronic rennaissance: leave it alone! why has no-one attacked you're just a baby? it stinks like baby trumps, and ER is ace. lyrics: ER witty and cute, Baby: repetitive, meaningless. music: ER: twiddly (nerrrrrr-nerrr-nee-weeerr as the solo goes. you can sing it on a bus, any bus), space-age retro, Baby: boring indie-pap, which makes B&S sound like menswear. in short, L&G of the jury> ER: knowing nod towards experimental musos, Baby: filler. mon case est dormir. a while ago much criticism was sent flying to libraries. i work in a library and it is lovely. i am very helpful (even if i do say so myself) and the index is easy if you spend every day in there for months. oh, who am i kidding? the place is full of loons. except the staff who are lovely. if only the 'customers' were locked out all day... finally, can anyone tell me what will mellor's first single was called? he used to be jambo in hollyoaks, and my friend who has deserted me for spain has bet me i can't find out. if anyone knows, please mail me, and we can talk about soap stars failed careers into the wee hours. lots and lots of love, you wonderful people. j.xxx _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: looks like a russian
by yellow bananas 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

hello fellow minions. 1. i got my flapwap t-shirt in the mail this week, along with the set of 3 badges. when i checked the merchandise webpage, the badges were sold out. so i felt really lucky. i was wearing the shirt when i had my student id card done. it unfortunately did not save me from the "i look bad in my student id" phenomenon. someone commented that the shirt looked sinister. but i think she meant the girls. 2. it's been raining like mad in perth. but i quite like it. i'm mad. do you need more proof than general admittance? i'm also drying my laundry on a broom balanced btwn 2 chairs. 3. the subject line is the title of sodastream's new lp. it's quite good, rather sparse, and i exclaimed to myself while listening to it, "STUART MURDOCH!" but it was not. i'm looking forward to seeing them live in perth in october. they moved to melbourne, which has the lousiest weather in oz, a few years ago. i hope it stops raining by then. 4. i'm going to see travis next sunday. i don't care what you lot think, but i rather like travis. maybe they're overrated, but still good nonetheless. i think the word "good" is cliched. 5. i enrolled in university this week and was made to run around like a headless chicken on campus in the goddam rain because of bureaucracy, incompetence, stupidity and silly computer programmes. 6. catcher in the rye is certainly not goddam crumby and it doesn't contain phony vocabulary. so there. bye bye for now. i hope you made it. HY "it's just words and times and a desolate sea that's keeping me awake." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: organised religion
by the original pixidustlady 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

hey folks, been reading with interest the posts about religion, and a quote sprang to mind, although i can't remember at all who said it: "It was Christianity which first painted the devil on the world's wall. Belief in the cure which it offered has now been shaken to its deepest roots, but belief in the sickness that it taught and propogated has continued to exist." i mean no offence to any believers who subscribe to the list, i am merely putting forward some thoughts for discussion. I think it's an interesting idea though. i remember seeing a documentary on telly about Christian missionaries who went to egypt. The egpytians believed that the world was created when one of their gods masturbated, and thus their religious art was full of phallic symbols and graphic detail. To them there was nothing wrong with this. but to the missionaries this was utterly outrageous. they proceeded to deface all the egyptians religious art, and convert them to christianity. then we can look a bit closer to home, and see how christianity hijacked many of the pagan festivals and changed them to suit their own agenda, wiping out paganism almost entirely. this brings to mind another quote, but this time i know who its by: "The Christian resolution to find the world bad and ugly has made the world ugly and bad." FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE i'm not going to go on at length about philosophy and religion, mainly because i have very little knowledge beyond that quote and what i think of it. but the idea of western religions concentrating on saying you mustn't do this and that, and eastern religions being more philosophical and concentrating on contemplation/aspiring to something higher is very interesting, i think anyway. i could probably say a lot more about this, cos i've been thinking about faith a lot recently, my own etc. but before i share that with everyone i think i should sort it out for myself in my head. bye karen xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the days are long where I come from
by Martin Wilson 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

"Ello little old ladies" Wilson Philips? Ne moi pas. I was in a very unsuccessful metal bashing industrial outfit back in the mid 80s (weren't we all) who seem to have been more influential than I thought judging by the new Strongbow cider ad. In fact has anyone else noticed the increasing number of TV ads that pastiche bands that the company either can't afford or who won't do ads? I only mention it because the soundtrack of the new Kodak ad sounds a bit like a popular beat combo we all know and love. I bought the Flaming Lips CD (Soft Bulletin) last week without hearing it first - after all everyone on the list says how good they are and my favourite band like them so how wrong could I go? Well fair to middling wrong. They're OK but the words are far too clever monkey for my taste and the tunes are a bit ho hum. According to their web site they do "stuff" live so perhaps someone who's seen them will tell me different but they just sound like early XTC to me - much prefer the miserably magnificent Mercury Rev. The religion thing is a bit odd really. Everyone who's posted on it either thinks its all bad or all good. To me that's the problem. Religion makes you think in black and white. When people do bad things the religious tell us its down to free will. But how can you have free will under an omnipotent god? Maybe the problem is that some people want to ascribe so much to a god that they end up creating a world view which is the same as if there were no god. What omnipotent, omniscient beings are best at creating is contradictions. I'm not sure that makes any sense now but I was on the train to work and got distracted by a fox. I hope the picnics went well and the lettuce wasn't too damp. I almost got on the train to Sheffield but I had a bad back, no money left and it was raining so I had peanut butter sarnies in front of a nice warm stereo instead. To make up for it I'm off to Scarborough tomorrow to look at second hand books, paddle in the sea and do other twee stuff.* So if you see someone there in a daft hat and a B&S t-shirt buy him a 99 and say hello. *I'll get my self in a Gentle Waves song if it's the last thing I do.** **A Day in the Life of Mart's Shoes? Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I guess I just wasn't made for these times...
by Walkn10＠aol.com 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

Bon soir, Arrrrggggg...for the past week my mind hasn't been at ease for more than 5 minutes and I think I'm slowly driving myself insane! My band goes back into the studio next Monday through Thurs to record a 6 or 7 song EP, and since its still in a late stage of completion with one weekend left, the stress is crippling me. We recorded a 5 song EP in October, but I had little if any expectations for that album, so when it turned out really well I was simply overjoyed. For this recording, we're trying to really push ourselves to make the most of each and every note on the album and everyone is slowly realizing that we're just not having as much fun writing these songs as before. Perhaps one could blame it on the steady diet of Pet Sounds and Ok Computer we've been digesting for the past year or so, but listening to great works of art and then comparing them to your own measely attempts at greatness is just insanity, but its what we're doing. We're so hyper-analytical of ourselves its a miracle any of these songs were written to begin with. I'm just so terrified of making the same record twice that I'm trying to push each and every button on this recording until its entirely different than its predecessor, which I know doesn't give the song its proper room to breathe every now and again. During the entire writing/recording process of October, I was really into religion at that time so I just put the entire thing in God's hands every night and miraculously things worked out beyond all hopes and dreams. Now, the cynic has crawled back to the forefront of me, and he has promptly sweeped the room of any traces of beliefs in Greater Beings (tm); now, I don't have that one guiding light that comforts me everytime a jam session goes awry or the clarinet line doesn't quite gel with the guitar. As a result, I'm totally running myself into the ground trying to be the next Brian Wilson, or at least trying to think of new ways to expand our sound, and I'm not sure its to the benefit of the songs. Any advice on matters such as these would be extremely appreciated right about now because not too many people in this town are artistic or neurotic, much less both. I'm sure everyone who cares about their art at one time or another says to himself "What are you trying to say? Do you even have anything to say? Why are you doing this? Is this really the best you can do?" and so on and so forth, and its extremely troubling. I guess its these internal debates that keep us pushing for the next hurdle with the intent of clearing it, and as Marx says "as each person advances his or her art, likewise the human race evolves." I'm sorry this had no B&S content. Hmmm...well, in August a band called Camera Obscura is playing Washington, DC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Struan once play in a band called Camera Obscura or am I mixing things up? Love and Hot Freaks... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever Call WRNR 103.1 at (410) 269-1031 and request Callow's "Lessons in Shut-eye" or you will have bad luck...forever or something. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: duets!
by Kin WOO 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

We listees here in Australia just got "Legal Man" so thought'd I'd say a few words about it:) It's a great if very un-B&S song a real northern soul stomper with sixties girl-group type vocals-yummy! "Winter wooskie" which I had alread heard before on various live stuff they've done is beautiful too. Dig the cover but why is it different from the rest of the EP/album art? vid is apparently being shown on "Rage" so will haveta check it out and report back:) Since the question about the duet between Nick Cave and Shane McGowan ("what a wonderful world") was brought up, my mind has been set to think of the really great duets of recent times. All the people Nick sang with are great of course (the Peej, Kylie), the Drugstore/Thom Yorke one was nice, and when the Tindersticks collaborated with the always lovely Isabella Rossellini on "Marriage Made In Heaven"- the results were fantastic! but can anyone think of other really wonderful duets? Of course, REM have done a few lovely ones (with Patti Smith, Nat Merchant) but the one that sticks in my mind is the one he did with the enigmatic but great Vic Chestnutt for the soundtrack to "End of Violence"-"Injured Bird" SWOON! What a gorgeous heartbreaking song that was. I used to have it on tape but I stupidly and foolishly taped over it. Does anyone have this song and wouldn't mind taping it for me???:) I had also foolishly taped over the wonderful cover that Pavement did of "Killing Moon" and if anyone had this, I would be so grateful to 'em:) Just saw "X-Men" recently and was struck by the coincidence between the mutants and us listees. We're misunderstood frequently, have a surrogate family right here in our e-community and well I for one have always wished for telepathy/telekinesis, though not everyone might agree with me on this! by the way, go see the movie-it's super cool and despite the negative advance buzz is really the best superhero adaptation ever (eat that Batman and haha! DC) and captures the complexity and angst of the excellent comic quite superbly. It's this year's "Matrix" and it's special effects are freakin' cool and must be proud of Aussie Hugh Jackman for a great portrayal of Wolverine, a character I thought would be impossible to play credibly (but which he does very well actually) ANyhoo, am wittering on a bit, must dash (wonder if I've started a thread with this duets thing?) and if anyone has those aforementioned songs, I'd be so grateful to 'em. ok seeya folks Kin Woo "What's the deal? Take a pill!"- Cordelia Chase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: My First Post
by CaMo81＠aol.com 21 Jul '00

21 Jul '00

Hello friends, This is my first post and im nervous to say the least. It's funny, I've been wanting to post for a while and now that I can, i have nothing to say. Anyway, I've met a bunch of you on #sinister and its been a blast. I just recently got into B&S and am very glad i did. See you all around! Derek P.S.-One suggestion. Easy on the acronyms. It took me 3 hours to figure out what FISHYCLAP and TWATTYBUS were. =) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: curiouser and curiouser
by DelyM2＠aol.com 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

I recently bought the newest arab strap recording, mad for sadness. IM a bit more pleased with this one than with elephant shoe. I dont know, elephant shoe just didnt do it for me. It reminded me of heroine and wearing a dirt-soiled tank top with a big hole in it, therefore having to wear another tank top under neath so no one can see your crusty skin disease...the later was logical, but i dont know where i was going with that heroine thing. The last person I dated was not unlike a strict lipped catholic nun..of course nuns dont cover themselves in pigs blood, but thats besides the point. anyway i would have been cruelly scolded for listening to arab strap. its a crazy world. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: parting is such sweet sorrow
by FakingUpARampage＠aol.com 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

hi everyone. i feel like i just got here again, and now i have to be leaving. i'm going to miss you all. very much. this has become my second family, and i feel horrible being torn away from it. hopefully, one day i'll resubscribe and see all the shinning faces i've grown to love. until then.. Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: My wonderful days in Dover
by Kenneth P Y Chu 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

Hello sinistees, Happy and unhappy notes today, I guess if I start with the booes then I can end with the yays, which will probably make me feel happier... Ken is sad :-( I've had a bloody stupid day at work, I am doing this work placement thing at the moment, but I have absolutely no work given to me to do because of a lot of reasons. I was just talking about it on a chatroom thing at work to a few friends of mine, but the recruitments person read it and now I have to meet her tomorrow to "sort things out". This is stupid, they're just going to blame me, and ask me why I don't go and tell them that I have no work to do. :-( I have been so depressed after that, I don't know why, maybe it's because I might get the sack, which I probably won't. I don't even care anymore. I'm going to talk about something happy now. The sinister london picnic was GRATE, I haven't had such a good time for a long while, nice to meet all of you who went (I'm not listing names because I'm bound to miss a few out on top of my head because my memory was severely affected by the wine and beer consumed, the beer of which I now owes a couple of people a pint of! Please do claim it back in the next sinister outing or I will feel like a scum). You were all absolutely lovely and for once, I felt wanted. I remembered the nice pub, I remembered the jolly walk up the hill, and eating sandwiches and crisps and "mutant" party rings, I remember buying wine, I drinking wine, I remember playing football, and showing off my extreme accuracy of passing, to the opposition. I remember the Spread Eagle, and the sitting on chairs, and the being sat on on chairs :-) I even made it home, despite having to take the evil rail replacement buses. I best not slag off busses too much tho or Sturan will hate me. But Sturan probably hates me anyway, because the other day I saw a graffiti on an underground train, it was probably a fast graffiti as it was really horrible handwriting. It had the word "Stu M" pointed with an arrow to one of the stations on the map. On closer examination, the t was actually a badly written C! I have inadvertently thought Stu M was Scum! Oops, AND Sturan does boxing, I'm doomed! Somehow I feel much happier now after this post! :-) Sinister rules the school! Curries and redbulls!!! Ken ====================================================================== Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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