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Sinister: WARNING - POLITICS LURK HEREIN
by Meredith57＠aol.com 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

I kid you not. Tread with caution. I am sorry to disturb you with more political talk, especially for those of you who do not live in one of these fifty sovereign states, but I find this discussion interesting because it mirrors the political angst that has been tearing my brain into slimy bits of gray matter as of late. I would love to stand up with Ralph Nader and say boo to the business world and, in the end, I probably will. But it will be with righteous tears in my eyes because I think that a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George W. Bush (who, as you all know, is nothing but an honest-looking robot whom the Republicans keep eager by doling out cocaine in a teasing manner). Nader is very popular for a third party candidate but do you think that he has a chance of getting elected? (This is a genuine question, because I really don't pretend to know.) Or will he just draw off a sizable chunk of votes from Al Gore (the less repugnant of two smelly choices, in my opinion). Am I the only one who feels like my hands are tied behind my back? (And not in a good way, you naughty boy.) It's as if the American people are a large camp of unhappy refugees kept in line by a few armed soldiers -- if everyone voted Nader, there would be no problem. If only a chunk of us do, then George W. Bush will be elected with a Republican Congress, thereby opening up the Supreme Court to Republican, right-wing justices. And that is frightening, because their impact will reverberate for years to come, on issues from the rights of homosexuals to gun control to the death penalty to the environment etc. Oh, wait, I forgot (*problem*) - I do not represent the American People. The American People want more money and more vacant-eyed polibots. Perhaps the Green Party should concentrate on storming the Senate and the House. Then, even if they do not triumph in the end, they could go the way of the Populists and win through defeat by forcing the Oliphaunts and the Asses to adopt (steal) some of their appealing environmentalist, humanitarian, and anti-corporate policies. In any case, at the end of the journey Dorothy woke up, didn't she? If my thought dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine, but it's all right Ma, it's life and life only. Yours, Meredith P.S. I saw the presidential candidate for the socialist party on Politically Incorrect last night and he seemed like a very noble, compassionate and intelligent fellow. He spoke of true equal rights and reasonable working hours with paid vacation, of legalizing marijuana and putting drug distribution in the hands of the government instead of addicts and gangsters, and also of wonderful shiny hoverscooters for every child. Well, hrrm, two out of three ain't bad, and it sounds like a dream but it's based on facts and faith and not opium. I'm sick of people fearing socialism like the plague. No, not communism, socialism. Just a bit. Please? Second Postscript: My little blue ferret Amy is going to kill me when she reads this because she loves the government with all the force of her furry little heart. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Once again....R. Nader, et al.
by Heffalumping＠aol.com 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

I am simply torn about the Nader thing. As much as I want him to be our next President, I will likely vote for Gore. This is because in Oklahoma (where I live), if one were to vote for Ralph Nader, one would be taking a vote away from Gore and allowing more for Bush (yikes). That is a horrible idea. Gore needs votes in my state because Bush shall get plenty, unfortunately. Get Gore in office, which is better than Bush, THEN work like a horse to get Nader in after that. Is this bad logic? I think it makes sense. But thank goodness I have that right. That is the most important part. I really respect the "evolutionary democracy" that Britain has, as well. Open-mindedness is so refreshing. I can't stress that enough. That is my mission in life. How do you all try to bring open-mindedness in your necks o' the woods? Susan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Speaka the Devil
by Brier Random 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

Hey I just saw Mr. Ralph Nader on the steps of my City Hall here in Santa Barbara. He's in town. I wanted to yell "Sinister loves you" because he has no Secret Service to tackle me. He's so cool, and very sensible. Anyone who's NOT status quo gets my vote. Anyone know what a "bardo" is? As in Magnetic Fields, "If you're feeling low, stuck in some bardo, I, even I, know the solution. Love, music, wine, and revolution." I wouldn't mind being stuck in Brigette Bardot, but I don't think that's what he means. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: enoough politics, what about looper
by bela london 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

>Why can't we all get behind one another in both the US and UK like Mute >Records is for Looper! Did we talk about Looper leaving Jeepster yet? I >can't remember. Sometimes I drift off during class and daydream. Or doodle. > oh yeah.. i just read that... why is that happening? does anyone have an actual juicy story? im in the dark... xxxbela ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: showing far too much knowledge about politics to be good...
by David White 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

Knightowl wrote: >You're in the UK right? How can you criticize the two party US system? Yours >is almost identitical and on top of it, you've got those blithering old >idiots in the house of lords and all those inbred royals to deal with. Yes I'm in the UK and it's a fair point about the house of Lords but regarding the two party system, I beg to differ. In the UK anybody can stand for parliament even independents and you don't need to be a multi-millionaire or have the backing of massive business to do it. I think all it takes is a couple of thousand pound deposit to enter the vote for any seat in the country. It can be very entertaining to watch your normal grey suited political candidates standing at the results next to a bloke dressed as a giant panda or wearing multi-coloured clothes and a daft hat or something equally daft! (I remember one of the funniest things on TV in recent years was when comedian Mark Thomas entered a by-election and chased the Conservative MPs open-topped campaign bus in his own open-topped bus) We also have a parliament made up of at least 8 different parties, sure you have your Labour and Conservatives but you also have the Liberal Democrats who got quite a few seats at the last election, the Scottish National Party who have a few, the Welsh independents, a few ultra right wingers from Northern Ireland, Gerry Adams and his IRA lot and one independent who stood on the grounds of being "Anti-sleaze", so it's not in any way a two party system like in the US. There is also a Green party MP in the Scottish parliament. As for those inbred Royals, as far as I am aware, the queen does not have any important role to play in politics other than formal ocassions such as opening parliament. I personally can't stand the Royals and think they are all a bunch of money grabbing parasites for what it's worth, one of the few things I admire about the US is the fact that status is not defined by who your ancestors were. I also think its a scandal that Prince William got his place in university before he even got his A level results, yeah as if any university was ever going to knock him, and the resulting publicity and money he will attract, back. Anyhow, that's enough ranting from me, Dave www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sorry had to add a bit
by bela london 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

> > Who the heck is this Nader guy that keeps getting mentioned on the list? >Is > > he an American politician or something? > >Anti corporate crusader Ralph Nader. Made famous by his campaigns and class >action suits against car companies. American Green Party candidate and a >generally swell human being. he is also a guy who is going to pull tons of votes out of the two party running system this year.. he seem sto be giving 3rd parties in general more exposure.. which is a good thing. > > > It seems to me that in America the two political parties both sing from >the > > same proverbial hymn sheet. Is it really democratic to have a two party > > political system? > >Other parties are allowed, but they simply don't have corporate backing - >i.e. big money, so most people never hear much about them. a note id like to add.. although i do believe there should be more than a 2 party system... it would be very very uneffiecient.. only because with more than 2 it owuld take a very very long time to get around to actually executing the desicions (its bad enough now, isnt it).. but as long as the other parties go along the underbelly and continue to inflluence and it is a democracy... but perhaps the other parties should be equally subsudised and allowed to participate i more public debates and get some exposure.. not just the rich boyees.. but they are doing an alright job on there own. maybe they stay more true without all the propaghanda.. hmmm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I must be crazy
by Toby Chan 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

Ms and MR Sinister! I MUST be crazy.I < > seems like losing < PHOTO > interests in every < HERE > -thing.I was < > listening to S*M*A*S*H last morning.I ve got a big head ache so i played the ( ( ((TBWTAS)) ) ) I smoked my Silk Cut Urltra Mild and I picked up the "Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floated In Space BP" in my messy CD pile And thing's got better. My 20-year-old mate said There is no Worst-Moment-in-my-life Coz if your are in the "WMIML" than The things in your life would not go worse So, it is not the "WMIML" And, the fact of life IS Things are getting worse So There is not fucking W*M*I*M*L* When "Judy", "Lisa", "Emma","Joseph", "Sebestian", "Steve"...and u name it ...... rush in to your life, u can say to them about this fact. FFF YYY III ::: my sinister mail address will changed to mod4real(a)yahoo.com BUT i ve to spend some mins to do it on the sinister page. Cheers, Toby C Island East. Hong Kong. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A Century of Fakers
by DelyM2＠aol.com 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

i have been living in the suburbs of new jersey for my entire life. I've just about had it with this place. i know the old saying the grass is greener , but for god sakes ... new jersey really bites the big one. This place is loaded with yuppies driving suv's , who are all pissed off because they forgot how to pull off a meaningful demonstration. I really dont understand what has happened to these once soulful people. But i truly fear the innevitable following of their children. People hustling and bustling about for the nearest parking space. Their only pleasure coming from a chic in tight pants or an email waiting on the pc. I'm tired of cars, and computers and mcdonalds and making everthing "hip". Will voting Nader really help. Is there any salvation?! am i just another poor sod who will never see the dawn of a non suburban community? Ironically, i just came back from buying eye shadow at Walmart. and yes, i know these are very petty complaints. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:55:30 +0100
by David White 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

Greetings Listees, >>Nader<< Who the heck is this Nader guy that keeps getting mentioned on the list? Is he an American politician or something? Please excuse my ignorance if its common knowledge and I've managed to miss it but I've never heard of him. It seems to me that in America the two political parties both sing from the same proverbial hymn sheet. Is it really democratic to have a two party political system? If the two parties were radically different or if there were more parties to choose from then maybe. Perhaps that's just the way it is in the most powerful country on earth, where you can vote for any president you want as long as they're right wing. Introduce some radical lefties, communists or environmentalists or something and stir it all up a bit, maybe even make the established two parties do something to earn their positions. For what it's worth, I think anybody who wants to be a politician or president or whatever shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of an election because they're generally all in it for the ego trip and not for the benefit of the people who vote for them. That's all for now, don't forget you can download Loneliness and Paper Boat MP3s (and soon Lord Anthony) from www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Rod 3:16
by Peter Miller 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

My wife was born in a country with a fascist government too. It doesn't seem to have affected her much though. In fact I think I out-fascist her on every score. As the man who put the SS in "Lassie", I'm proud that Steven "Fat Arse" Wells chose to associate us with "My Dog Skippy". Aunt Sally always wanted to go to America, but Worzel Gummidge was having none of it. I'm firmly in the Worzel camp. I've met Worzel. How's that for mental groupie-ism? He couldn't give autographs because "I've got twigs" he said. Yes, Rod Stewart was a bit of a proto-Oasis in his social habits, but I prefer to judge him on his music alone, which is often like a cross between Nick Drake and Noddy Holder. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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