February 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: b&s stuff
by Katrina House 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

hello, i have some belle & sebastian test pressings which i am looking to sell. for more info, please mail me off the list. cheers, katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: b&s stuff
by Katrina House 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

hello, i have some belle & sebastian test pressings which i am looking to sell. for more info, please mail me off the list. cheers, katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Can you hear this / Or should I / Turn it up?
by Jason McKinnon 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Pinefox smiled and said: >>> Who is the person who said something like the response to a work of art should be a work of art? >>>Many have said things like this. Some of them have been 'artists'. (can you believe i put THOSE greater than signs on myself??) Too true, but two truths don't make a left. >>> What were his exact words? Written down from his own memories into a series of symbols and connotations that we call language? >>>Here's Ezra Pound in sunny June 1922: >>>The best criticism of any work, to my mind the only >>>criticism of any work of art that is of permanent or >>>even moderately durable value, comes from the creative >>>writer or artist who does the next job; and *not*, not >>>ever from the young gentlemen who make generalities >>>about the creator. Laforgue's Salomé is the real >>>criticism of Salammbo; Joyce and perhaps Henry James >>>are critics of Flaubert. Gotta love the man that first made the Afro and sideburns look popular. AUSTIN ALLEGRO >>> And the correspondence between words and things in >>>the world is imperfect. >>>That depends on what kind of thing you think words >>>are, and what kind of work you think they do, and who >>>(human beings vs god, for instance) put them to that >>>work. In a sense my view on this is: there is no >>>extra-linguistic way of knowing about the shortcomings >>>of words in 'corresponding' to things; so to talk >>>about imperfect correspondence may be a wrong turn. You are going about it from the wrong end. THe orignal thought (thought1) resides within a person...that's the purest form of that thought. When we try to communicate that thought in the many forms of communication it becomes garbled by: A) our ability to comunicate B)the person's ability to negate who they are and listen c) the resulting synergy thereof >>>Believe it or not, I once tried to stick something on >>>this issue on the 'internet'. But the correspondence >>>between my intentions and the effects of the >>>electronic world was most imperfect. PineFox, I do believe you have the same twisted sense of humor as I do. Seems like you'd like to agree with us...but for the sake of argument..... :) >>> It would be useful to talk about something on its own terms, but what are these terms? >>>I think that's a relevant question. 'Conversation' is >>>a helpful image again: a dialogue between the terms >>>that we take an object to provide, and the terms we >>>(unavoidably) bring to it. We can try, maybe, to keep >>>the conversation polite and respectful, and hope that >>>the two sets of terms will learn from each other; >>>although in some cases (avant-garde art; political >>>criticism) that may not be the point. Conversation is a good word, but communication is better. All of the things we do on this planet involve it. I know that at this moment "pure"communication is inpossible. That's communication where there is no him or you, only it. And HEGEL says.."wait! that's not what I meant!" THE Pickle Prince _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: madge bishop was laying eggs
by Nigel R. Townshend 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Chuffing eck! #78 on books thats seventy eight pounds on books chuffing eck sorry i'm exhausted from spending this vast amount eeeeeeeeee i don't know eh? Well Yes i had dream about billy bragg he was due to play after the sheffield united football match but as he got on stage all the strings on his guitar broke so i got up and sang a song made up on the spot he told me that he started playing guitar and writing songs by wandering up and down queues outside night clubs singing songs he made up on the spot too, he said he thought i was great. which was nice becuase i'd been having nasty dreams where i would die, not to mention the madge bishop trilogy, actually i will mention the madge bishop triliogy. I came home one day and madge bishop was laying eggs on the kitchen table. in a second dream she was sat on the bus in front of me and her eyes exploded throwing thousands of tiny spiders all over my face and in the third ocassion she was spinning plates as part of a festival i was organising where belle and seb headlined. i have a new lecturer who is more boot camp srgt. than teacher the man barks information at us for an hour it scares me into learning research methods it really does. i went to the 2001 pop a go go festival on Saturday it was dead good, Airport Girl, MJ Hibbert, Velodrome 2000, Big Eyes. it was dead dead good i think people on this list would all love Big Eyes very much, and if i could remember the website address i would tell you all but i can't so i won't. but if you see one of thier records buy it, they're on Pickled egg records. Anyway Rawk music calls for it is the corpartion Skate, punk ska night this evening, vodka orange 50 pence.....ermmmmmm..... vodka orange....... Nigel Love ps if anyone at Hallam uni reads this note the cool colours i found!!!!!!! for all others this makes even less sense than the rest of my email ------------------------------------------- Post Scriptum: Who's ya daddy ? http://www.lundwood.u-net.com/bettysclinic.htm www.wwf.com www.iowrestling.com daddy knows best http://www.sufc.co.uk/ http://www.htfc-world.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fumbled Crosses
by Peter Miller 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Yes I know people can be entertained by Virginia Woolf and Syliva Plath, so can I, I wasn't knocking them. Well, I was, but without good reason. I recently read a book called "The Penguin Book of Twentieth-Century Essays" in which VW takes the wooden spoon with "How It Strikes a Contemporary". But somehow I struggled through it, only to find T.S. Eliot's "Tradition and the Individual Talent" blocking my path. Edmund Wilson nearly finished me off with "Philocetes: The Wound and the Bow". Each unto their own. I think this stuff just reminds me of obligation. Either that or I can't get my head round it. I liked most of the book though, Slyvia Plath fan Al Alvarez pleasantly surprised me with "Risk" from GQ Magazine (not about the board game). Joan Didion's in it, Lloyd Cole turned a whole generation on to Joan Didion. It's a good book, the "Pillows and Prayers" of non-fiction*. "Time of Arrival" by Dan Jacobson is my favourite, about a South African in London. I do like the ugly and stupid, as long as it's harmless, but I wouldn't say I preferred it. For instance, I really like the subnormal Black Sabbath roadie riffing on one of the Foxgloves' songs ("Second Hand"?), but not to the exclusion of more delicate offerings, like the Welthorpe penned "Stop the Bus I Want a Wee-Wee". Am I right in thinking the next Papercuts will be out to coincide with ATP? Goalmouth scrambles are virtually unheard of in Spain, it's all thirty-five yard aerial benders. I want normal goals, and for spectacular goals to remain special. I have a lot of faith in Real Sociedad. Duke turns his attentions to Peacock Johnson this week. Not much to disagree with this time, but a stimulating read nevertheless. I bet Anthony Powell didn't do his own dusting. Peter *No it isn't, but it would be good if it was. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Seamonkeys are real alive pets.
by elenita99 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

RELIEF I thought Peter Miller was dead, leaving us a whole week without any post. How do you expect me to survive then? LONDON CALLING So I went back to London and Mr Trousers took good care of me while I was looking for a flat and I found the nicest house in Greenwich, it has got a garden and a huuuge living and very nice flatmates (Mike I know you can read this what were you expecting? ;) And I am as happy as a fish now. Uni is still boring and I haven't got a job yet but it can't be all perfect. LOCH NESS MONSTER I went up to Scotland last week end and visited Glasgow. Glasgow is cold and pretty, full of friendly Scottish people (well they sound friendly, I cant really get what they say but I nod and smile and it's ok), and the drinks are cheap. Carey and I had girlie pyjamas night in, lunch with Ally Cookie and lots of fun (I know you are all jealous now). Also there are lots of men wearing skirts, and THAT is nice. HONEY LIVES IN A PINK AND SILVER CASTLE Well I know better than you cos I went to Edinburgh to visit her. I had tea and sweets and she was wearing the prettiest dress ever. It might be cool being a princess. I know I will never be as classy and glamourous as Princess Honey but you know, no one really can. WEIRD PEOPLE I am supposed to write a 50 pages research project for uni, so I have a tutor who is supposed to help me and give me advice etc. So I went to see him last week and he wanted to invite me for lunch, now he sends me an email about some article, and ask me as a PS if I had a nice Valentine's day. Should I tell him I was too busy trying to see my three lovers in the same day? Mmm maybe not. Have a good week Elena xx ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: embiggens and embiggens
by DAVID FOSTER 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Hi all, Heard a promo of the new Snow Patrol album the other day, and it is rather good to say the least. But, the exciting news is that we (me and man who runs record shop) are 95% sure that Stuart Murdoch sings on two tracks. Its either him, or its the Snow Patrol guy doing a bloody good impression. Maybe this is old news to you all and I have been skimming over posts a bit too much, but if it's not, yay! Also, my record shop friend made me a tape of unreleased b & s stuff which is truly grate. LLPJ, IYFS and BWTAS live at the Bowlie weekender. Also a recording of them playing Loneliness of a..., and The Kids are Alright, and also playing Rhinestone Cowboy to the queue outside one of their gigs singing with a megaphone. Also two Isobel tracks in French, one of which (Evensong in french) is just wonderful. So, that was rather a hefty chunk of content, though maybe of little interest. I met a lovely Scottish girl last night, which down here in Devon is pretty damn rare. I immediatly fancied the pants off her, and became very excited when she said she would teach me the guitar. She isn't really familiar with b & s but I just know she'll love them. When I asked her what music she liked, she replied "this sounds a bit stupid, but....soul". My heart melted. But I have chickened out of going round there today, and I have to go to work now. She probably has a boyfriend anyway. Watch this space. If she goes out with me I will be an extremely happy boy! Oh well. Time to go to work. Hope everyones happy clappy n snappy. D. Foster "It's a perfectly cromulent word" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Like bikies who left all their beards at the door...
by Gardiner, Stuart 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

IMHO, Coldplay is NOT as good as having your teeth removed, one by one, by a blind traffic warden, using a pneumatic drill. Or having your testicles waxed by Anne Widdecombe. Why are the British music press so obsessed with Coldplay / JJ72 / Starsailor style suicide music at the moment? Of course, you'd be much better off listening to The Whitlams instead. Think great lyrics, great arrangements, and tunes to die for. Imagine Ben Folds Five if they weren't slightly annoying. Imagine Mercury Rev without the willful weirdness. Imagine The Divine Comedy at their smoothest moments if they weren't so over-the-top. Oh, just buy it will you? OK, time to discuss the serious B&S issue of the day. No, we don't care where the tour's going to go, or what the new songs are going to be like. The question on everyone's lips is: what colours are the covers going to be? They must be starting to run out of ideas by now. My money's on puce. Does anyone out there know of anywhere decent to live? I've been back in Britain for 5 months now (since http://science.ntu.ac.uk/msor/skg/travels.htm...) and I'm getting desperate to leave again. Too many people, too little space, too unfriendly, no decent scenery, and godawful weather. Time to emigrate. OK, so I'm going to be living in Nottingham for the next 3 years, but there's no harm in planning ahead is there? Apparently, the average person in Britain has sex 110 times a year. Someone's getting more than their fair share. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Now a Major Film
by Chan Toby 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Hi dear, This is L I F E My L I F E No jobs/ No Lovers/ No Saving / No Energy/ No Creativity/ Listened to Tigermilk again lastnite. Wake up at 6PM, Sleep at 6AM. Everyday. Listen to Galaxie500 again and again. lovely bassline. IMHO, Coldplay is NOT as good as JJ72. even though JJ72 is not good enough. UK music scene ven't have any NEW heros. So, Select magazine is closed. They can't put Radiohead on every issue. Buena Vista Social Club has just performed in Hong Kong, but i ve not money to buy the tix. and... u know what, Deep Purple is going to Hong Kong. I hope Bob Dylan can play a gig in HK... I ll die for a tix. My latest movie watching: Buffalo 66 X 10000000times eXistenZ X 2 times Me, Myself and Irene.. Ninth Gate I often listen to Enimem now. He is a good MC, and He is clever. His music is not so good but entertaining. I like to MC-ing to it. Now i can MC the whole "Forgot About Dre" Fucking Hell. No More, TBY CHN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it's social...demented and sad...but social.
by evan beusoleil 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

greetings and salutations; first i'll respond to things i have read: Janitoria: i think Arab Strap would sing a song about shagging in a car wash. well, sort of speak it, anyway. Thrift Store Rob: nice nickname, isn't it? i just went to my fave thrift store down the street and got The Coolest Shirt On Earth. it's white with brown embroidery, four pockets in front, pockets on each short sleeve (it's button down light cotton, i forgot to mention) and the buttons are little wooden tiki heads. i want to get a scanner just so i can email a picture of this shirt to John Waters, for i think he would envy me for it. Ruvi: pretty girls make graves. Pinefox: Pynchonians are a bit too sophisticated for Salinger. Perhaps people who read Salinger in youth graduated to Pynchon later and now slag him off in shame. Catcher in the Rye is great in high school, and, for that matter, so is the Bell Jar. any age where one is dissaffected even though they have all they need in the world is a good time for these authors. of course, for me, my taste has changed in my old age, and i don't know what to make of it. i went from bergman to waters in film, and camus to jacqueline susann. okay, i do read more heady than susann, but i can't help but be charmed by work that crosses the line, that skirts the edge of taste, that's just...trash. i love it. it's like senor coconut doing kraftwerk, or yma sumac, or martin denny musically. it's like tiki culture, which is making a comeback if it's the last thing i do. gotta go. gotta watch desperate living one more time before it's due back at the video store... -evan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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