May 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: re:utilitarianism
by Hannah Brown 24 May '01

24 May '01

hang on! i thought utilitarianism was the attitude that everything must be factual and must have theories and studies to make something true?? or am i getting it confused with utotalitarianism??????? And to idleberry, isnt BEARSUIT a tindersticks song?????? questions, questions, but do you have any answers!!!!!!!!!!!!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Frogs in the snow
by Ken Chu 24 May '01

24 May '01

Hello, I am currently sitting back at home, back in Milton Keynes, rediscovering the joys of the Television. In particular, the early morning children's TV programs, how the enthusiastic actors are thriving to expand the horizons of children in their knowledge. One particular one is "Captain Crimson", it uses the storyline of a comic writer to teach kids to distinguish between words such as "should" "could" and "would".. I would give you an example but should I do that I could well make a fool out of myself. But that wasn't the best thing I've learnt tho, no. During one episode, they were discussing how to write an adventure story, and I was in a semi-asleep mode still whilst watching it (it was like 11am for God's sake), suddenly I was awaken by the line "IT'S AN ADVENTURE WITH NOBS ON!". That really woke me up, and then I realised that it was 11am BBC2 rather than 11pm Channel 5, disappointed, I fell asleep again. The next day, disillusioned, I put on Channel 4 instead, the tweenies were on, they were making wallpaper borders using different shapes made using vegetables and sponges as stamps. In the sleepy mode again, I was woken up by "I'M DOING THE FAIRY'S HEAD WITH MY CARROT!" Kids, these days. They'll start writing songs about being in a lift with lesbians soon. I then watched "Live Talk" on ITV at 2pm, but I was really miffed when there was a temporary fault that cut off the intelligent conversation the presenters were having about how the mirrors of Marks and Spencers make them look fat, and their bums look big. Good advert for girl power. I am very glad that Larry has finally made it to the list, and he said: "the Dome chips are better than Mister Fast Fry chips. I think the Dome wins, but then I am a frog I don't know anything." I don't really know anything either, but I'm sure most chips in the world are better than Fry Chips that sound as if they are named after a porn star. (And the name would suggest a pretty rubbish porn star too) Robert Donlan said: >>The comment bout Autechre was actually very funny. Good stuff, whoever said it.<< It probably was me, I can't remember what I said tho, I hope I didn't say anything rude like "Autechre rocks - they are a bag of stones". Hannah Brown said: >>tindersticks..I got to the front and was wedged inbetween, a twat... and two girly girls that talked.... << I don't really know the tindersticks, but I think I would start going to their gigs. I think I have the OBAD symptoms, they always say, the first step to the cure of an obsession is to admit it, well that I have done now, so I think finally my OBADing days are over. I just hope that no one have been taking pictures of my obsession, unless we're talking about my obsession with buffy, in which case I want to see the pictures. Girl wedges and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: People who aren't already the part of sinisterfitba should join, the first kickabouty was great fun, especially if you don't cripple yourself after five minutes.. ahem :-) ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: public service announcement
by Katrina House 24 May '01

24 May '01

for glasgow people: this year's electric honey signings PUPKIN are playing at the Virgin Megastore on Buchanan Street tonight at 7pm and their debut EP 'Morning Light' is out on Electric Honey Records now. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland email: shop(a)banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: OBAD-the hidden menace to today's society%
by Sunset . 24 May '01

24 May '01

Its an alarming fact that todays youth are falling foul to an obsession that grips their mind. Perfectly sane individuals are becoming victims of a mind-altering condition. In this exclusive report I bring you tales of what is commonly known as obsessive belle and Sebastian disorder (OBAD) OBAD has been known to strike at random. Its victims appear to all intensive purposes to lead normal life, of course with a disorder of this nature this can not be the case. OBAD is a condition appropriately named after the band thought to cause the disorder. The music created by the band causes strong emotional effects on its victims. Their catchy tunes make the disorder incredibly contagious. What is more alarming though, is despite the virulent nature of the band, to date there is no known cure. In my research I have interviewed a sufferer and will bring to you the heartbreaking tale: Miss X, a young woman with her whole life ahead of her. Watching her enter the room it is hard to imagine the intensity of this obsession. To the untrained eye she is just an ordinary women, but the glazed look in her eye clues to the condition she is suffering. -So Miss X how when did you first realise you were suffering from OBAD? - Well firstly I would like to point out that I'm not actually suffering here... Im quite happy with "the state that I am in" (She smiles while unknowingly displaying two key symptoms of the disorder: 1) An amazing self deception that the condition is a positive aspect of her life 2) The compulsion to quote lyrics from the band) -In that case could you tell me in what way OBAD effects your day? -I suppose it can be quite variable. On some days I might simply hum a few songs to myself or look at the world through the eyes of a belle and Sebastian lyric. On the other hand I might return from work and put on a B&S CD and end up listening to the music all night. Sometimes that is the only thing left to do. Many sufferers from OBAD have turned to a frightening type of self-help known as the sinister mailing list. Unfortunately for the suffers instead of receiving the kind of professional help that they obviously need they are offered advice and understanding from other equally obsessed individuals. The list is not without its health warnings. An ex-member of the band who obviously left after seeing all of the suffering he had caused has felt it his duty to caution suffers with the message "sinsietr is a bit freaky. Although its obvious his heart is in the right place I feel his words trivialise this debilitating condition somewhat. I left Miss X singing quietly to herself. Although there was a smile on her lips I was certain that an unhappiness lay within. OBAD is a serious threat to the population and unless more is done to combat it who knows how many victims it will claim. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: Utilitarianism
by Halliday, Ian 24 May '01

24 May '01

Thank you, I thought you'd never ask. Utilitarianism is the philosophical principle that anything that increases the net total of world happiness is a Good Thing, while anything that decreases it is a Bad Thing. For example, if B & S were to release a new album which was truly marvellous, this would be a Good Thing, because more people would be made happy by this than would be made sad, but if Des O'Connor were to release a new album, this would be a Bad Thing. In the same way, if Manchester United were to be relegated from the Premier, this would be a Good Thing. Even though they have a frighteningly large following, far more people hate them. Everything I know about utilitarianism comes from hanging around with people studying it in their first year, along with politics and economics. I won't say where this was, because you'll call me an elitist, but please note that I didn't complete a degree there. Regards, Ian -- Ian W Halliday, BA Hons, MIMIS, AAIBF Snr, ATMB, CL +64 25 245 6089 (GMT+12) http://baptism.co.nz Excel in all we do -- Word documents not accepted -- see http://baptism.co.nz/word.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Write it down?
by Katia913＠aol.com 24 May '01

24 May '01

All this talk has made me hungry! For fear of missing something thats really worthwile I have neglected to delet ANY email that comes my way, and after not checking for a week or so I have brought myslef a lot of sitting in from of my computer and reading, which is good for my brain b/c otherwise I'd be doing something mindless like playing the Sims, an utterly adictive game! I know its only been a few days sience I posted but i was bored, and I give you all more than the right to delete this! Its mostly mindless anyways... As people get older do you think that they get more nastalgic? I'm still only 15 but i miss being five or a wee six sometimes...Last friday for instance, I went out to get a milkshake with a few friends after school was up.. WE talked about things like this and one of my friends, who couldn't be trusted at the moment said you could tell that time was moving faster b/c the clouds move faster as you go.. I figured it out though! As we get older time moves faster right? Well, this is b/c it is a smaller fraction of your life. For instance, when you are five a year is one fifth but when you are 20 its a lot less. (This isn't for those who dont get fractions) Does thats sound Philisophical to you? It sure does to me. And if you have a better idea you better damn well tell me! Thats it Kate "I am the princess of everything I ate a crayon and I turned into an indian" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "tell you who you are if you nail me to my car"
by MIWinship＠aol.com 24 May '01

24 May '01

'Small Wonder', 'Out of this World'......'It's Your Move' anyone? OK so not robot/space related, but definitely from that era because that's when we got our first video and I remember taping those shows.... IYM starred Jason Bateman, who I believe replaced Michael J Fox for 'Teenwolf Too'...... (oh no, I've started another 80's film thread...) I've not seen Larry the Frog around the house for a while, but clearly he's been sneaking around and using my computer to send e-mails, when I'm out. I can say that my preference is for Mr Fast Fry chips, but Dome curry sauce. Also he mentioned moaning about the rain. I quite like a bit of drizzle.... Sweetie had a 'They Live' subject line quote. I love 'They Live'. It has the longest and most pointless fight in film history. "Put on the sunglasses..." It seems you can't go to Camden without seeing Finley Quaye these days. He was walking up and down the high street the other morning. Which is much too early for a 'pop star'. For those of you who feel there's something missing from your lives, I have the answer: The David Bowie Singles Video Collection. It has all your favourites, and some you'll hate, but more importantly the contender for Greatest Music Video...Ever in 'Dancing in the Street'. Unbelievable performances by Bowie and Jagger, and the fashions (beep beep) to match. 'Look Back in Anger' is also ace/mad. And then I woke up. The end. Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: there is a light that never stays on
by Mark Matson 23 May '01

23 May '01

hello, it's me, mark, from auckland, new zealand. the third sinistunian from aotearoa I think? (that has posted, anyway). although in october i will be travelling around thailand with a friend for a month, and then heading over to london to check out what's going on. i know it sounds aimless, but my aim was never any good anyway. i thought i might stay in london for a while and maybe start/join a band, so if there are any other aimless musicians out there, feel free to get in touch. i play the rhythm guitar and sing like a girl. book recommendation: catch-22. it's fantastic! i'm not sure what to compare it to, maybe catcher in the rye? (i'm not very well read) although it's really very different, you just have to read it to find out. i know that wasn't a very good decription, but i'm trying not to drivel on too much. subject line vs b&s content: my old infamous but faithful NAD amplifier has finally died after years of faithfulness and infamy, whilst trying to play a b&s track no less! i don't know which track i was trying to play, as i had just put the cd (tbwtas) in and then i realised that the amp was broken before i got to choose the track. maybe i was just going to play the whole album. hmmm.... take it easy mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: There is nothing interesting enough in this post to put as its s
by C.R. Walker 23 May '01

23 May '01

Hey there everyone! Woaw - this is really strange. Like loads of other people seem to be recently, I am a new person who has just been granted the power of speech, so here I am. It's probably a lot more exciting for me than it is for you though. I'm Chloe.. (or Cloy; or CloyBoy; or even just Boy sometimes, which never seems to make that much sense, but hey.) I'm 19. And don't have much to say really. I've got an exam tomorrow, but I'm not that bothered about it really. It's the whole "37%" thing. Somehow I still feel guilty for not being stressed out, but there is really no need, so... why? I'm just gonna enjoy my state of non-stressedness while it lasts, I think. I'm quite jealous of everyone who's heard Jonathan David, coz I still haven't. I also still heven't sorted out what I'm gonna do about gigs... They're not all sold out already are they? Coz that would just be typical of me. Okay, I'll go away and stop boring you now. Byeee! Chloe.. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Utilitarianism
by James Thorniley 23 May '01

23 May '01

Hello children... How's things? I had a really shockingly dull exam called General Studies this morning. I hated it, they gave us sample exam papers a couple of weeks ago to practise and they were piss, but this morning they gave us difficult papers with difficult questions, Like what the fuck is "Utilitarianism". Christ. Bassists are great. Particularly Alex James. I'm not surprised Archel had a crush on him - he does cool basslines. I can play Girls and Boys! It's lots of fun. And Beetlebum, which isn't so much fun, but it's still cool. And REM are not shite. Well not completely. Their new song iss nice anyway and has a cool video (I watch too much MTV). The Beatles were very popular, and, let's face it apart from of a few of the Lennon songs they were pretty damn mediocre - not bad, but mediocre compared to the Velvet Underground, who rock. I wrote about them in my exam (there was an art section and I know nothing about art unless you count pop music, which I don't know much about either). The question was about styles of art, so I just wrote some drivel about experimental music...drugs and sex....pictures of bananas etc. I'm kind of in a band at the moment, it's called Penfold. I prefer to play bass but they've got me on rythm guitar (probably because their current bassist knows how sexy it makes him looks, but it's not fair - he doesn't need it he's already got a girlfriend (she's the drummer)). We don't have many songs but the bassist did one about lesbians - it's all about how great it would be to get stuck in a lift with lesbians. I can't remember the verse but the chorus goes: Going down and they're going down, Going down and they're going down, Going down and they're going down On each other.... And he sings like N'Sync on the verse but goes all poosailor indie rock in the chorus and then makes fake orgasm noises after the second verse. Well I find it amusing anyway.. I should just grow up. My B&S tickets are apparently in the post hurrah, I hope this strike doesn't poo them up. Byebye my love James "(i'm waiting for) the man" Thorniley "But she never lost her head, even when she was giving head - she says: `Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side' " --Lou Reed +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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