June 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: bobbins
by Hannah Brown 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

hello all, i was thinking today that Belle and Sebastian is quite a long name for a band and so i thought id follow the current trend and jazz it up a bit, you know give it more street cred, what about B. Sebbie,or B feat seb, that sounds absoultely shit doesnt it, oopps, sorry, thats the point? any modern suggestions would be good, come on guys, lets slap B&S right into da 21st century, BO! That poor sams in denial, he thinks i want to get into his pants, ive never even met the guy. Does anyone know who he is? He seems to be spending a lot of time doing that tape. ive done mine and it's fab. Um a bit of embarrassing news. the primrose hill film didnt come out, its my new camera you see, it needs a proper light measure. im gonna salvage it as best i can but to be honest with you its a complete shambles. Any words of kindness would be much apriciated cause i feel a fool. One more thing, if anyone wants me to make them a t-shirt of any kind send me your idea and size and ill make you one, my course is finishing and i need something to keep me sane. dont make it too difficult though, and i draw the line at porn. by that i mean "i wont do it", not " i will draw it", if you know what i mean, no i didnt think so. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: post scriptum
by C. B. 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

> >Has anyone heard the new AIR album? I hadn't realized it was out already >and >I think I must buy it soon. If you haven't heard the VIRGIN SUICIDES >soundtrack, you should go buy it and listen to it, and then read the book, >and then watch the movie. You will thank me, because they are all >wonderful. > about the VIRGIN SUICIDES I think the right order would be: a) read the book b) listen to the soundtrack c) watch the movie sofia coppola and air made the book turn into a wonderful melanchonic bedtime story _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: why do lovely things end so quickly?
by C. B. 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

just spent the most amazing w\e. went climbing with a few people I met on my rockclimbing course and had the greatest time... also managed to play b&s on the car stereo: hope the person whom I was directing the music to understood all that i was trying to say... hmm. think i'm in a mess now. big crush dei baci a tutti Claudia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I prefer honeydew myself, but there's no accounting for taste!
by m.e. curtin 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

ON GREETINGS Screw greetings, I'm going to dive into this fair and square. ON MYSELF AND THE POSTAL SERVICE I was reflecting on my contributions to this list last night, and it took all of ten seconds for me to realize just how inadequate and altogether forgettable I am. Aside from my gallant apple butter bonanza, I might as well be an All Saints fan (shudder). Since no one will remember this, then, I'm making a very obvious plea for mail. I know I'm a pathetic creature, but can you blame me for liking packages? No. So if you like spending money on postage, or perhaps you have excellent penmanship, send me something. Anything. A tape, a letter, a severed body part - whatever you see fit. I promise I'd send a tape, a letter or a severed body part back, depending on the case. Keep it in mind kidlets. I'm nice and I always find pretty stamps to use. ON MY FATHER AND RANDOM PHRASES This is the first of two rather feeble B&S related comments, so be prepared. My parents were bickering over something the other day, and I think my mom wanted my father to do something like yell at the neighbours, which she wouldn't do herself as she felt my father deserved such a dubious task. I don't understand this part of the story, but the key thing is that my father, unwilling to follow my mom's wishes, said:"Well, talk about being Johnathan to your David!" Whoa. "What the hell did you just say?" is what I said, in less-than-polite terms, to my father and he repeated it. I was confused. What are the odds of such an obscure turn of phrase being uttered on the eve(ish) of a certain single's release? I don't even understand what he was trying to say. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised that my father said this, because this is the same man who once asked my mother to call him a melon. "what teh hell for?", asks my mother, "So you can be my melon-cally baby!", replies my father, sagely. It's comments like those that destroy any semblance of filial love. ON FREE MUSIC MAGAZINES AND THEIR FUNNY COMMENTARY I was reading this magazine called Exclaim the other day as I waited for the bus, and i Noticed a review of the much-maligned Kings of Convenience. Anyway, the author writes: "They remain a cross between a sexier Simon and Garfunkel and Belle and Sebastian without the annoying self-righteous attitude." At this I L-A-U-G-H-E-D uncontrollably, knowing just how annoying comments like these are, especially to certain members of this list. How positively G-O-T-H-I-C! It's now my goal to be as cripplingly (?) self-righteous as possible, so THERE! ON CARNIES They're very frightening. I work in a park and the carnival has come to town. They've begun setting it up and they are a unique breed of people. One carnie came up to me, presumably as I was the first woman he's seen without a beard in a while, and he says:" EH baby! I can get you a free ride on the Zipper any time you like! I found this to be curiously sophisticated double entendre for a man of such bearing. Oh well, at least the carnies find a niche in a park full of the sexually misadventurous and the mentally unsound. ON ALL THINGS UNPRONOUNCABLE Several years ago I was working in a department store, and this man with a very exotic accent came up to me and asked me for help finding some shoes. He was very nice and I was very nice and we got him a nice new pair of shoes. Then he was asking me where a good record store was, so I told him. Then he asked me what music I liked so I told him that too. He said to me, upon hearing my preferences, that I should try to hear some stuff by this band Sigur Ros (apparently he was from Iceland after all). I didn't think much about it. Now, of course, they are positively SOUGHT AFTER! I thought I'd give them a try. I must say, they arene't half bad. It strikes me as strangely efficacious make-out music, but I've no proof of that. I just wish I had looked a little harder for them when that man told me to, and I wouldn't feel like such a dolt for jumping on the bandwagon now. ON GORDON I, too, like this curious lister Gordon. I know I'm a bit late in owing up to this, but I'm slow of mind anyway. I like to think that if I met him in the street (which I doubt i EVER will) I could call him Gordie just once. He probably wouldn't like that though. He strikes me as nice, (goodness, I'm being positively stricken in this post) though for all I know he tortures kitties in dark alleyways. I doubt that though. I very much liked Gordon's handling of J. & D. The next time you're perusing your Bible Mr. Gordon, perhaps you could relate to us the story of Ruth. Ruth is my confirmation name, but I can't for the life of me remember why. I went to a pagan high school, so I've forgotten the little biblical knowledge I may have ever possessed. Keep up the good work Gordie! ON GENEVIEVE Where the hell is she? She has such a lovely name. ON CLOSINGS Screw closings, I'm just going to leave, fair and square. Yours, positively, Marybeth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the sound of silence
by Katia913＠aol.com 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Well, in chime with my subject line, sinister has been real quite this past week, and it makes me wonder about stuff... You know, I used to run a radio show with the girl that introduced me to B&s by the name of "the sound of silence." I know that's random, but it'll be okay. Well, I'm bored, a friend of mine who I was supposed to go to the record store with ditched out on me for her boyfriend, which she was just complaining about ditching her. I love hypocrites. I know this post is full of personal random crap, but I'm in that kind of mood, I apologize to anyone who doesn't want to listen, but I never made you... My best friend from elementary school is moving to Florida for a job this summer, and another girl I know from Elementary school had a mother who died this week. That makes four mothers out of thirty-two from that class. Cancer is so sad! I don't know if the deathtoll is getting so high for all of you but I'm still real young. Sadly, reading entertainment Weekly I found a horrible review for the new radiohead album, which I am yet to purchase. They sad it was a C+ album that should've been named Kid B. WHatdo you think? I'll end this somber note on another one.... This past week or so I've talked to two or three people from Chicago about arranging our own picnic, so if anyone has an Idea about that, where/when/if interested.... pass me a line. Maybe we can get one together. Kate "I am the princess of everything, I ate a crayon and Turned into an Indian." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re:Andy Votel
by mark heyward 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

I've just read someone's message saying that they thought that Andy Votel is 'the coolest guy in the world.'I'm sorry,but this is obviously some kind of joke-unless your idea of cool is a cross between Dave Lee Travis and a tramp.What's more,the 'guy' is one of the rudest and most ignorant people that I've ever had the misfortune of meeting.He parades up and down Oldham Street(in Manchester)with his brown-nosing group of sycophantic hangers-on,sneering down his hairy snout at anybody not wearing the right Adidas trainers. <BR>I know that this sounds a little bitter and personal,but I'm sick of people thinking that he's some kind of genius.Most of his ideas are so patently plagiarized(Burt Bacharach produced music boxes of his tunes about 35 years ago,the Alfie logo is about 25 years old...)and the people who are really creative and talented in Manchester are completely ignored if they don't fit in with his little clique. <BR>I suppose I'd better pause for breath now... <BR>And don't even get me started on Monkey-Boy from Alfie. <BR> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Where is Dunfermline and the Dalai Lama speaks
by Linda Kerr 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Hullo sinisterines, I went through the archives ( a useful thing to do, occasionally) to see how Honey would put this. There have been a lot of posts recently - which is good! However, there are some very nice guidelines and stuff in the faq about posts to sinister. I quote from a mail which Honey sent some time ago, when there were only 500 people on the list, and I think they are worth bearing in mind. Please, I am not getting at anyone in particular, but observing these makes the list a better place. Trust me. First, please think when you are sending a mail that 1400 people will be reading it, and it is worth putting some time and effort into it. Even if it a short one:) Honey said "The drill is: compose your message... hover your finger over the send key for 10 seconds...think whether we all want to hear and whether Cliff Richard (or the Dalai Lama) would approve... send." After a few moments pondering, you might think that 1400 people and the archive (there forever..) may not really need to hear that you agree with a previous post, or that if you do, you can at least expand and improve the debate... Secondly, please don't use the list for private mail or mail to about 5 people. Some specific content in a general message is fine but please don't rattle on for ages. And if you are advertising something (which is generally discouraged but if it is about list-members or of specific B&S interest then) please try to mention it in an otherwise witty and touching post, rather than just mail it out Don't quote gallons of text and add a line. If you're quoting more than you're saying don't bother. When we are all so excited about the concerts and new songs (even though I think Jonathan David is rubbish, but then I have only heard it once and I can't make any sense of it, it is a mad song, and not in a good way), I am very loathe to be a wet blanket and am not saying that anyone is bad; everyone is very welcome in sinister and everyone is lovely, and sometimes it takes a lot of guts to write a post. I was trembling when I did my first one (maybe I should tremble more, now) but that the more care people take, the better the list is for everyone. Good posts inspire others - they are funny, or informative, or touching, or are about sinisterines the world over. We should have drawings of us in National Costume. I had a book with National Costume once, and the English National Costume was a policeman's uniform...Peter Millar wears this to all the fiestas he need to go to. Finito Not long to go now, is it? I have just realised that we (me and Honey) are going to five B&S gigs, which I hope is not some sort of a record for paying customers. There must be someone going to more... However, there is the social element of seeing new and lovely people, and guess what! if you can't get out of your own country for legal or religious reasons, you can watch us on the web. I was thrilled to discover that Dunoon has its own webcam, http://www.dunoon.org/ which unfortunately was not operational when I tried this evening, but I am sure Dunoon councillors will get their fat municipal arses in gear to get it working by Saturday. See Richard stagger down the gangplank of the Dunoon Ferry, carrying his drum kit, of course! See Stuart drink tea in The Olympian Cafe-Bar "Great either day or night"..However I am a bit worried that on the same night The Alexander Brothers will be swinging their kilts in Strachur Memorial Hall, 19:30 for 20:00. How civilised! 19:30 for 20:00! Now come on, that isn't fair. They have been much better recently... That's all. Love, Linda xxx Surrogate List Mam (Hand hovering over the send button for the regulation time..) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: public apology
by Joe Vester 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

this is a post to say how very, very sorry i am for making you recieve 3 copies of the same rather boring and lacking in content post. and as a mark of respect to all those who fell, i'm not going to use capitals for this post.[deepest regrets] i reckoned that short and simple said it all rather than long waffly rubbish involving gushy nonsense and hollywood-style heart-to-hearts. I have a lot of extremely free time at the moment. Lots of it. And to relieve my boredom, I'm going to give you some musings which vary immensely in quality. i wrote some new words to "a whiter shade of pale" which were entitled "a darker shade of black", "a blacker shade of dark" being a crappy name and me not feeling like giving it an original one. i won't tell you how they went but i might run something where you have to compose new words for a reasonably well-known 60's song. i don't know how that would go down with all of you but some feedback on the idea would be appreciated as long as it's not too critical in an abrasive manner in which case you can keep it to yourself. i have been catching up on my sinister mail although i still have forty messages to go. i walked past the shop where sam walton works today but i hadn't read that one at that point so i didn't know he worked there and so didn't go and say hello and also i think i would have been too nervous being as i don't know you or what you look like. i hope my rather odd use of the word 'you' meaning both individuals and the sinister mailing list as a whole is not confusing you too much (it's somewhat like the divine comedy for those of you who've read it, and if you haven't, don't bother) has anyone noticed that the word 'tao' is remarkably similar to the first three letters of 'toast' with the 'a' and the 'o' switched around. not a coincidence, i think. if any of you feel like getting so depressed that you actually do want to jump, read a very good book called 'they shoot horses don't they'. it's a tour de force of staggering genius from start to, well, where i've got to at least. this post is a bit long so i'll cut it short and not waste yet more of your time despite having even more little comments to make, Joe PS sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I cannot express my complete groveliness in words but i hope you can imagine it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: your back pages
by Youn J. Noh 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Someone should have told me that all I needed to do to get Peter Miller's references was to read Vogue. And it's not even a current issue. The one with Penelope Cruz on the cover from spring break cos the only justification for buying these is being stuck on a plane. Talk about guilty pleasures. Fashion photography is truly stunning sometimes. Like when W first came out, I remember this two-page add with a woman striding across a room of mirrors at odd angles wearing a rose colored gown. It was splendid! I wish I had saved it. Actually, I don't know much more than I did before about Capt. Corelli. And what I said gives the false impression that Peter Miller's references are easy to get. But everyone knows the contrary is true. No, please don't bother to explain. Listen to this excerpt from an article about Renee Fleming: "Music is erotic for the listener - and for the singer, according to Fleming: 'My real taste, my real sensibility, lies with music that I feel is sexy.' The quality she finds most sensual is 'pulling'. Think of taffy or isometrics or a suspension bridge. The sung lines stretch, to the breaking point; the soprano's voice must sound inhumanly clear, shimmering, strong, and yet vulnerable. The phrases - especially in Strauss or in Rachmaninoff - are elongated over harmonies whose resolution is postponed, the dissonances lovingly retained rather than rejected." Gosh, what amazing writing, esp. that last sentence! And what a lovely, complex thing to describe! (There's something reckless about how Alasdair C deliberately writes hard vocal parts. Stuart's falsetto seems to come so naturally. And others write for 'glamorous microphone dames'.) I don't have any evidence that Ferdinand said "'Love' is a sign." It seems like something he could have said. But when Robert sings "Love is a sign", he must be using the word 'love' (rather then just mentioning it). So then how is love a sign? If love is a sign, then what we mean by the word 'love' must bear an arbitrary relation to whatever it stands for. In other words, love must be an abstraction, established by convention, that lumps together things like green and violet blue waterlilies, snow cuffs... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister: another day out in san francisco
by Bipedalboy＠aol.com 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

so, im new to this list and new in san francisco. im currently interning for a toy company here in san fran, but originally from new york. i guess everything in my life is kind of sweet, with this internship and all, i just feel i wished i knew more B&S people around here. can anyone here help me out.... i dunno, if anyone is interested in getting a pint, sushi, or some chocolate give me a buzz..... sidhe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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