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Sinister: Where's our Jon Snow gone?
by Chris D Martin 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

We need a swingometer update. I notice that Expectations - wayhey, the first ever B&S song I heard, on Beat Patrol actually, in the late summer of 96, but anyway - has climbed its way to the top of the poll. And the top five tracks all come from Tigermilk at the moment. The highest ranking sinister track at the moment being, The Stars of Track and Field. I'm personally suprised at the position of Judy and the Dream of Horses, back in 12th place. The State I Am In, My Wandering Days are Over, and Electronic Renaissance, all seem to be splitting the troops most, with opinions highly divided over them. With Put the Book Back On the Shelf attracting the least amount of disagreement by fans. So if we were to rearrange the seats on the basis of the votes in so far, Debinhams would have a majority of a small coffee table over Marks and Sparks. love to all, chris ________________________________________________ Centre for Educational Sociology, Institute for the Study of Education and Society 7 Buccleuch Place University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh,EH8 9LW ________________________________________________ Tel:+44 131 6504198 c.d.martin(a)ed.ac.uk Fax:+44 131 6683263 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: todas cosas siniestras
by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Hola todos! Yo tambien hablo espanol, y no soy espanola! Muy bien, si? Pero, es muy dificil escribir espanol en el ordenador, porque no hay accentos o punctuacion espanola. Que mierda! Lo siento para mi lengua muy infantil, no hay estuadiadolo para un ano, y he olvidado todo. Lo siento tambien si mis femininos/masculinos son inutiles. Un abrazo muy fuerte a todos hablantes de espanol en la lista. Well, now I've struggled to remember some of the language which I only stopped studying last year, I'll attempt to salvage my collapsed ego by making nasty comments about stuff in general. Nah, I can't be bothered to be nasty. I'm too happy about going to see Travis this evening, for which purpose I will have to skive off the last hour or so of college. Never mind, I don't think my contribution to the art world this afternoon was going to be worth shit anyway. Ho hum. At least I've got glittery nail varnish on. Bueno, tengo que hablar un poco sobre Aire: I haven't heard any Air stuff, I'm sure it's marvellous/shit, according to whatever people believe, but there does seem to have been muchisimo about the aforesaid on t'list. Talk about Baccara instead, why don't you? Or, if you can't stomach that, tell us poor unfortunates what Air is ACTUALLY LIKE, rather than just sending and resending variations on the theme of "Yeah, it's great" "No it isn't, you shithead" "Oh yes it is" "Oh no it isn't" "What do you think, children?", because I can't see you and so don't know who's supposed to be the villain (no visual clues like black moustaches or anything, see?). At least people have stopped arguing about Radiohead. Cojones! That's torn it! Has no-one anything (un)constructive to say about B&S? Hey, why don't I start off? Is Mick a *proper* member of the band now? There's so many cool trumpet solos now he definitely should be if he isn't. Oh, that authentic Iberian flavour on Dog On Wheels! Ooh, this is difficult...let me cogitate, deliberate and digest for a second or five... Nope, can't think of anything right now. Alberto, en respuesta a su suplicacion, tengo Tigermilk, If You're Feeling Sinister y los EPs y puedo grabarlo para tu si me envias una cinta. Me envias privadamente para resolver esto. Bueno, tengo que correr ahora y hacer algo en el estudio. Hasta la vista, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297(a)kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) **************************** The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost *************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The meaning of "la pastie de la bourgeousie"
by paul.sumner＠unn.ac.uk 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Hi For those of you who wrote regarding the meaning of "la pastie de la borgeousie": I was right in front of Stuart David at the Manchester Sunday evening Christmas gig. During one of the technical-hitch-gaps between songs, someone behind me asked Stuart what it meant, and he said, "It means the cake of the rich, or something.". However, isn't a cake in French "un gateau"? Still, there's what one of the band says...is there anyone French on the list who knows for certain? Cheers, Paul Sumner ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs
by Gordon A Rogers 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Just another word on the Edinburgh indie club scene : The only one worth going to is the Egg (And I wouldn't call it and indie club as such - much more interesting than that). No I'm not being payed by the Laird of East Fountainbridge. Here's my well educated opinion of the rest : - FBI : Used to be great when the DJ had a little originality. - Evol : Good once (played My Bloody Velentine - Whoo Hoo). - Day Tripper : Had promise and I did actually dance a bit. - Scooter : Had a good night here the DJ had a little flair (which dwindled as the night grew long). - MI5 : Pish - Katch : Shit This is the truth so there. Seek out other clubs e.g. Tribal Funktion (the top floor plays brilliant Old Skool and Soul), Cafe Graffitti or Scratch. Anyway to make this better for the rest of the listees I have a question on clubs : Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? - Gordon (the edinburgh club guru from Aberdeen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Air...the Beach Boys?
by Keith Watson 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

>I'm sort of admitting that the Air LP is not as great as Premiers Symptomes >and is only ok. But, let me tell you now...'Remember', the second track on >the b side sounds exactly (in drum terms) the same as 'Do it Again' by the >Beach Boys! Do you think it's not as good, I'd say it was certainly as good if not better, still they're both ace anyway. Also, maybe of interest, there's a DJ Shadow compilation of singles out at the moment on Import called "Pre-emptive Strike" which is excellent - indeed I've bought it and I've already got all of it, it's just cool to listen to (almost) all the singles on the one CD, so highly recommended. Track listing: Influx Hindsight What does your Soul look like (1-4) High Noon Organ Donor (remix) Also with Camel Bobsled Race, which is the rather poor "Megamix" by Q-Bert. Doesn't live up to the standard set by Technotronic regarding megamixes. Quite why it doesn't have "Lost and Found" on it I don't know, but I expect it's James Lavelle's Tory brain at work again which means he'll release another compilation which will have it on it, and lots of innocent people will buy it, making him a load of money. Still... let's face facts, it beats buying shite records from principled people. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Air...the Beach Boys?
by Seymour Stein 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

For your interest. I'm sort of admitting that the Air LP is not as great as Premiers Symptomes and is only ok. But, let me tell you now...'Remember', the second track on the b side sounds exactly (in drum terms) the same as 'Do it Again' by the Beach Boys! You're welcome. x will look out...CALYPSO CUPS...in your area February 1998 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Hot pumping disco action
by mctag＠mcmail.com 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Allright squires, I'm going to write a load of crap now (anyone writing 'so what's new?' will be treated with the contempt they deserve), I can feel it in my water. Claire Timmins wrote: >graff, not steffi. That's a shame. A bit of tennis would make me a lot happier. After all, Pavement wrote a song inspired by Goran Ivanisevic. Nice to see that insipid little shit Henman falling at the first fence, while Rusedski reigns supreme. I like Greg - he could've been the Canadian number one, and chose British citizenship cos he loves his girlfriend, the big soppy pussycat. German Number 2 Anke Huber is the woman I love. AND Peter Miller is married to Arantxa Sanchez- Viccario. At least that's what I've been led to believe. Paul 'Polanski' Mitchell wrote: >B&S anyone? Hands up everyone in Iceland who wants to hear about the >Edinburgh club scene. I'd like to hear about the Icelandic club scene. And what's big in Greenland? In 'Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow', it mentions a place called Disko Bay. That's where Belle and Sebastian should record their live quadruple album 'Ice and fire: Belle and Sebastian Red and Raw in Disko Bay'. The laser show could be at least the equal of Jean Michel Jarre's. I'd love to see Chris playing that synthesiser JMJ had where you just put in your hand across a beam of light to play a note. John wrote: >I could continue with Hey! Cormorant (it's rather risky bellowing Hey! >Mr.Shag in the East End) but it does seem rather impersonal.... It's not the 'proper' East End, it's Canary Wharf - stop trying to be Reggie Kray. I know all about your secret life, tossing stray farthings to shoe shine boys in bistros, while screaming 'SELL ALL DEUTSCHMARKS' into your mobile phone to your 'man' in the City. It's hardly The Blind Beggar now, is it? Incidentally, did you know Honey, our glorious leader, is the lost brother of those latterday day Kray Twins - Grant and Phil. >salut (damn keyboard won't do accents) slut, yourself Keith wrote: > Indeed my flatmate used to have a cat called Mescherscmitt 109 (stop me >if you think you've heard this one before), which he took to the vet and on >filling in the form, put me109 down for the pet name (the usual >abbreviation) and the vet comes out and goes, "Can I see melog please?" I know someone who's got two cats called Drum and Bass. They're going to look bloody silly when one of them dies. Dr C.B. Stride wrote: >> Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? > >Not my night OFFBEAT - its an Oasis-free zone......plug, plug...cut,paste.= He's off again. >> Offbeat ..... >> A bit different from your average indie night ... on Friday 30th January >>(1st birthday party with balloons I'm going to be sick. >and indiepop cake The word is 'cack'. Northy wrote: And may the lord God make us truly thankful. Pedro Miller wrote: >The concert in Barcelona was indeed "de puta madre". >Tag also speaks Spanish Enough to know what 'de puta madre' means. The only Spanish I can remember is dirty. >and is a good friend of Bigas Luna (damn!) It's true. Javier Bardem's character in 'Jamon, Jamon' is based on me. The Duke wrote: >final word: from the mouth of mr murdoch (he might have been fibbing of course. >never trust a boy frae Ayr), No, you're right. They sound like Jean-Michel Jarre and have no funk. >the slogan was originally writ >large outside gregs by the Yummy Fur boys, and he later repainted it >somewhere else. so it's the yummy fur you should be asking what it >really means... Well, I heard the same thing from someone who knows someone who knows Stuart Murdoch quite well. 'Tigermilk' - I've got it on tape. Hilarious. And now my favourite letter of the day: Brad wrote: >thanks to all who responded about my pooh sticks question. now that i kno= >w who did those songs, i've actually got a pooh sticks album that sounds = >nothing like those two songs. it does, however, sound like shit. Brad, that cheered me up. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: IMPORTANT AIR ALBUM
by 95516123＠csunt2.napier.ac.uk 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

>Hey people >Buy NME for 95p >Cut out Air woolworths �2 off token >buy Air album >save �2 <read NME >throw it away >listen to Air >thought you'd all like to know >Anyone like near the IBM place in Otterbourne...or Hurley? >I was there today so I thought I'd ask But you're only saving �1.05 due to forking out 95p for the NME. Is it worth it? A new winter coat and shoes... The Archdeacon of Pop ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0004F002; Wed, 21 Jan 98 22:09:47 +0000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA18420 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:58:21 GMT Received: from andromeda.ndirect.co.uk (andromeda.ndirect.co.uk [194.74.254.17]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA18416 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:58:18 GMT Received: from mesh (th-pm00-31.ndirect.co.uk [194.73.182.34]) by andromeda.ndirect.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA17599 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:59:58 GMT Message-Id: <199801212159.VAA17599(a)andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is <rnorth.amos(a)mail.ndirect.co.uk> From: "northy" <rnorth(a)amos.co.uk> To: sinister(a)majordomo.net Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:12:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT AIR ALBUM X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "northy" <rnorth(a)amos.co.uk>

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Sinister: You made me remember my dreams
by Adrian Evans 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Oh Genevieve....where be thee my lovely ? You should come to England and ply your trade as a Dream Doctor. I have two weeks of insomnia, two weeks on tranquilisers, and not a single dream ! I receive one message from you my dear, and hey presto I'm back in dreamland ! Unfortunately not a B&S dream...but bizarre non-the-less..... I got on the bus to work, and the bloke in front of me paid for me. Then at lunchtime i went and met my best mate and we stole something, I can't remember what. And we were being chased down this alley between two rows of terraced houses, but this alley was in the middle of being resurfaced and we were knee deep in aggregates and then a steam-roller started coming the other way.....AAAAGGGGHHH...way out ! But there was this little doorway we managed to squeeze into while the steam-roller passed us. i found a bucket in the doorway and it was full of snails, so we took it back to my friends house..(Lord knows what happened to the people who were chasing us). He didn't want me to take the bucket into his house, so I threw in a water butt outside his house....only it wasn't his house it was my mums. And we went to bed (not together for christs sake) in our lunch hours !! And when we got up to go back to work, we walked out of the house and the snails had multiplied and there were just literally thousands of them. And that was it ! DOES ANYONE ANALYSE DREAMS ???? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN. -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs
by 95516123＠csunt2.napier.ac.uk 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

>Just another word on the Edinburgh indie club scene : >The only one worth going to is the Egg (And I wouldn't call it and indie club > as such - much more interesting than that). No I'm not > being payed by the Laird of East Fountainbridge. Have to agree with you there. I spent a wonderful, if slightly drunken, night there last Saturday. Also plucked up the courage to say hello to the Laird after he responded to my written-down request to play 'String Bean Jean'. Boy, did that make my night. He also aired LLPJ at the end. Now, I ask you. Where elae in Embra would you get that on a Saturday night? The Archdeacon of Pop Here's my well educated opinion of the rest : - FBI : Used to be great when the DJ had a little originality. - Evol : Good once (played My Bloody Velentine - Whoo Hoo). - Day Tripper : Had promise and I did actually dance a bit. - Scooter : Had a good night here the DJ had a little flair (which dwindled as the night grew long). - MI5 : Pish - Katch : Shit This is the truth so there. Seek out other clubs e.g. Tribal Funktion (the top floor plays brilliant Old Skool and Soul), Cafe Graffitti or Scratch. Anyway to make this better for the rest of the listees I have a question on clubs : Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? - Gordon (the edinburgh club guru from Aberdeen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0004FB5F; Thu, 22 Jan 98 17:38:31 +0000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04423 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:55:50 GMT Received: from pigeon.csd.abdn.ac.uk (pigeon.csd.abdn.ac.uk [139.133.200.15]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA04419 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:55:46 GMT Received: from raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk (gar@raven [139.133.200.90]) by pigeon.csd.abdn.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14700 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:22 GMT From: Gordon A Rogers <gar(a)csd.abdn.ac.uk> Received: (from gar@localhost) by raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11201 for sinister(a)majordomo.net; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:21 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:21 GMT Message-Id: <199801221657.QAA11201(a)raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> To: sinister(a)majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Gordon A Rogers <gar(a)csd.abdn.ac.uk> X-List: Sinister

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