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Sinister: Re: Lazy Line Painter Jane
by duke of harringay 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

> I like her voice, it is kind of obnoxious, but > loud and free, it maybe > sounds like a 60's soul singer or something. > A friend of mine said it reminds her of olivia > newton-john, but I don't > know about that... well i said she sounded like Emmylou Harris to Stuart's Gram Parsons, and i'm sticking with that one... the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent(a)mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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[SKG@datcon.co.uk: Sinister: The mailing list formerly known as being about B&S]
by Stuart Maclean 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

>1. The 'hard-core' indie fan. Listens to John Peel. Thinks variety means hearing as many different bands as possible, preferably ones no-one has heard of. Thinks credibility is gained by having seen "Tonto's Exploding Penis" playing down the Frog & Sprocket on a Monday night in January. I was there, great gig. Didn't see you there though! And of course no real indie fan owns a CD player, yuk! Oh, and Peel is the messiah, who else plays records from the 50s, 40s even, next to techno, Ivor Cutler, blah blah, all at range of attractive speeds. Back to the BS post, I caught Slow Graffiti and Seymour Stein this week on Lamacq, which two did I miss?? Cheers Stu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The State That I Am In
by mlang＠inch.com 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

How do you explain that his brother coming out "takes the heat" off of the narrator in this song? Does that mean he is closeted? Just curious what people think... matrix ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Lazy Line Painter Jane
by gram 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

apologies to people on the indie list, I sent this there first by accident. In response to Mike's post about being nonplussed about it the first time he heard it. Did anyone else feel this way? I wasn't sure what to think, it made me sad at first. especially when she started singing, I was like WHAT? but I listened to it a few more times and it has truly grown on me. Now I love it, its sort of rockingly fragile, if that is possible. I like her voice, it is kind of obnoxious, but loud and free, it maybe sounds like a 60's soul singer or something. A friend of mine said it reminds her of olivia newton-john, but I don't know about that... g r a m ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Century of Fakers
by Matthew A. Neimark 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

>I do feel that Belle and Sebastian's success is purely a matter of = >time, it is stifled by their unwillingness to play the game (do the = >press etc.) which is fine, but even then, when a band's this good, it's = >pretty unlikely that they'll not break through no matter what - On the = >current curve of chart success it's looking like A Century of Fakers = >could be top 20 stuff - I really hope so, as there'll be plenty people = >around the world who'll not yet have heard of them (not "real" fans I = >suppose ?!), who'll get the chance and that, to me can only be a good = >thing Yup. Century of Fakers is ACE. True crossover material. But that leads me to another question: What do people think of them imminently becoming mainstream? This question has brought infinite internal conflict to myself...On one hand I love them and wish them every possible success. On the other hand I'm infinitely jealous (somehow) of other people eventually hearing them and for their entrance into mainstream culture. Somehow, deep inside of me, I hope that they end up as Felt or the Pastels: a band with true diehard fans who truly like them. Musicians and artists who cite them as inspiration in the future. I hate the idea of some slick DJ talking over the beginning of their songs. Worse I hate the idea of Kasey Kasem putting them in his top 40 show: "And here's a little story about the band coming up. It turns out that the bassist Stuart David has a hobby. He enjoys writing. So he made a booklet and called it 'Ink Poloroids' because the stories are about his life in the band. Have you guessed yet? That's Right Belle and Sebatian coming in three positions higher at number eighteen with their hit, 'Lonliness of a Middle Distance Runner'" Matt PS Why do the administrators not like Dyre Straets...HA Super FakeOUT ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: A Short Story about a Small Man and a Large Song
by Chris Wirth 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

I'm just a boy who plays guitar, how can you expect me to understand how I feel? Perhaps you do. I've been laboring under that funny, fizzy feeling that is part adrenaline induced euphoria, and part stomach-wrenching agony that Yes, you did in fact make an arse of yourself in front of 100 complete strangers. You see, I endured that unique rite of passage for aspiring performers... the Open Mike. I went alone, and I didn't know anyone there, but, I brought my love of B&S and a bittersweet heart. For my first ever performance in front of actual live people, I chose a mellow Replacements song to get me in the mood, and then to bring the house down, "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying", a rather prophetic selection it turned out. My name was called, I plugged in, I adjusted the mike... so far, so good. Eyes closed, voice choked to a whisper, left hand shaking so much that I can't even form a D chord... begin. OK, forgot the words halfway through the first song, right on schedule. Press on, make the rest up as you go. OK, now for a *really* good song, they'll love this one. By way of an intro, I yammered on about how wonderful B&S were (no one seemed to recognise the name) and that everyone should discover them, then I just started. Seconds, several muffed chords, and a number of pleading wails (from *me* not the audience, silly), later, it was over. A smattering of applause greeted my departure from the stage, and I breathlessly recovered at the back of the room before sliding into the night, not nearly unnoticed enough. Perhaps, the gods heard a small voice singing the sad songs, for as the darkness swallowed me, their tears mixed with mine. ~cw~ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re:star wars and stuff
by Chris Stack 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

Does anyone actually have the lyrics to Le pastie? I wouldn't mind them. God yeah Cast are shit. I was once dragged to a concert where Cast were playing and I just stood there with my arms folded whilst everyone around me was jumping up and down and singing. I was pretty near the front, and that Johnny something who sings kept staring at me like I was weird, that told him, the curly-haired scouse git; it's only a matter of time before the general public realise all his songs sound the same, his days are numbered. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Just a boy who plays guitar
by John Stuart 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to hear (and see) Belle & Sebastian play with a full orchestra, or even a strings section like Kristen Hersh's Strings EP. >I saw B&S at The Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh back in April (or May - I >Forget) and regard the experience as probably the best gig I've attended I was there too, any it was fantastic. Although the concert at the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, at the end of 96, was even better. But anyways, this reminded me to ask something about the Assembly Rooms gig. I saw a guy there with a b&s t-shirt on. It was red with 'Just a boy who plays guitar - Belle and Sebastian' in white on it. Is this person on the mail list? If so, where did you get the t-shirt? Anybody else got one? Also, did anyone buy an extra poster? I didn�t like the design at first, but soon regretted not buying one. One last thought. Is anyone going to The Sundays concert in the assembly rooms in November. (Tickets on sale Monday). Get in touch. Cheers John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Just a boy who plays guitar
by Keith Watson 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

>I saw B&S at The Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh back in April (or May - I >Forget) and regard the experience as probably the best gig I've attended I was there too, any it was fantastic. Although the concert at the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, at the end of 96, was even better. [Keith Watson] I too was at both of these, but I tend to like the Assembly rooms one better - there was a hell of a buzz at the Mitchell library but the set was somewhat limited (All of If you're feeling sinister, A Century of Fakers and I don't love anyone - I'll scan the programme when we get a scanner in the office next week and post it to the list as a JPEG, in fact, I'll do this with all the various paraphenalia I've collected if people are interested). The Assembly rooms on the other hand had loads of my favourite songs on, and was a more varied set I thought, nonetheless, both I rate as two of the best concerts I've ever seen, I'd love to get a tape off of anyone who taped either, but as yet I've not met anyone. I know Andy Dean was speaking to someone that night who taped it, but he declined a copy - and later regretted it. But anyways, this reminded me to ask something about the Assembly Rooms gig. I saw a guy there with a b&s t-shirt on. It was red with 'Just a boy who plays guitar - Belle and Sebastian' in white on it. Is this person on the mail list? If so, where did you get the t-shirt? Anybody else got one? Also, did anyone buy an extra poster? I didn't like the design at first, but soon regretted not buying one. [Keith Watson] I bought a poster - but you can't have it I'm afraid! I did also see the guy in the T-Shirt and registered it as odd too - I guess it could have been made himself. One last thought. Is anyone going to The Sundays concert in the assembly rooms in November. (Tickets on sale Monday). Get in touch. Cheers John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian: a response
by Keith Watson 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

Why is it that some Belle and Sebastian songs bring tears to my eyes? They remind me of the past and of growing up in Scotland in the seventies. They speak to me of always being an outsider, of never having the right clothes to wear - "you can't afford a blazer, girl, you're always wearing clogs" is close to the bone. Of not being cool and not being aloof enough. Of not being cynical enough to transcend the crushing experience of unrequited love. The first B&S song I ever heard was The State I'm In - still, I think, the most perfect of all. I sat down on the floor and listened to this soaring, sweet voice and knew that everything would be all right. As a footnote: I'm finding the increased level of vitriol and defensiveness on this mailing list somewhat depressing. I like knowing what people are interested in and what their memories and feelings are - spurred by B&S and inspired by them, which is why we're all here. C [Keith Watson] You're right here of course - I mean, I think people need to discuss other things since there just simply aren't enough things to talk about on a regular basis regarding Belle and Sebastian - it'd be a different story if they released a record every week. Still It's interesting what you say, "The state that I am in" was also the first song I heard by them about 14 months ago or so, my friend basically put Tigermilk on and said "have a listen to this" to which I thought yeah yeah kind of thing, but by the end of the song I was like on my knees like I'd scored a goal in the world cup - bloody amazing. I grew up in Scotland in the 70's, however it's hard to attach Belle and Sebastian to that although I acknowledge it does make you feel dead young again. I really attach it to Gregory's girl growing up as this was where I lived at that time, and went to the school etc. so I''ve got a filmed record of where I lived when I was a kid. I do feel that Belle and Sebastian's success is purely a matter of time, it is stifled by their unwillingness to play the game (do the press etc.) which is fine, but even then, when a band's this good, it's pretty unlikely that they'll not break through no matter what - On the current curve of chart success it's looking like A Century of Fakers could be top 20 stuff - I really hope so, as there'll be plenty people around the world who'll not yet have heard of them (not "real" fans I suppose ?!), who'll get the chance and that, to me can only be a good thing. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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