June 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: up the bum sex (in Oxenford town)
by Elizabeth Daplyn 07 Jun '99

07 Jun '99

Hello darlings Having spent a good part of yesterday recovering from the Oxford meetup, I feel inspired to give you all a blow-by-blow (missus) account of the whole sordid proceedings. 2:00pm Various sinisterites and assorted appendages gather sheepishly outside massively cool clothing shop in large sparse yuppiefied square. No-one talks outside the people they came with, other than to note that the falafel shop also sells international phonecards. We head for the first of many pubs. 2:30pm The pub (Furkin disgraceful) is full of large-screen football fools, so we sit outside in the rain drinking beer/cider/GIN etc. and eating Pringles. Mmmmmm, new Paprika flavour. One thing we DEFINITELY don't drink is il biondino's hideous Tigermilk concoction. Ewwww. Twee accoutrements such as newly-purchased Miffy backpack (Alix) and Hello Kitty wallet (Cassie) are admired by all. Well, by me, anyway. Oh, and people are talking to each other now. 3:30pm The rain is starting to piss people off, so we decide to find a pub with no telly and no students who've just finished their bastard finals and thus feel the need to fuck everyone off with their *hilarious japes*. I mean, I'm in the middle of sodding exams, but do _I_ go punting paralytically pissed and fall in the river noisily while yodelling ancient Andean folk tunes? Well, yes I do, but in a very ladylike and refined way... 4:30pm After traipsing round town in a fairly aimless fashion and running away from various full/footbally pubs with our girly hands flapping, we settle down in the cafe section of a pizza restaurant, after turfing a couple of lovely ladies off the most desirable sofa in the place. Gosh, we are so rude. Nice wicker armchairs, padrone. And proceed to drink wine and get cornered by scary Dan and his manic twitch. Several people leave. 5:30pm We return to the Furkin abomination in order to a) drink some more b) get out of the rain and c) to collect my bike, which I foolishly left propped against a wall earlier. Fergit t'turn up fer me own fyooneral, I wud. More drink is drunk. As are we. We finally finish the Pringles. Kevan leaves to go home, the wuss ;P. Scary Dan has also bailed out by this time, in order to see an appropriately scary German play. 7:00pm We womble around town for a bit buying wine and riding my bike (in turns, not all together, as the latter excercise would require rather more co-ordination than any of us possessed at the time. Or indeed at any time you care to mention). Boy on a bike, what _are_ you like? 8:00pm An Indian restaurant is found (suggested by !ENTHUSIASTIC! Pam) and invaded en masse. We are joined by a couple of Pam's friends, who look quite scared, as well they might. We threaten them with forced induction into our cult. Curry, pappadums and naan are eaten. Oh yes. 9:30pm We waddle towards St. Anne's College and invade the bar. I drink a can of bitter that someone has left in front of me. Well, you've got to take what you can get, eh? Miss Vicky stunningly pots the black to win a fiercely contended game of pool. She is God. Table football is also played, but the least said about that the better. Right, Casarrotto? 11:00pm We adjourn to the Room of Doom, where Pam is a charming hostess and offers us more wine, and the Wagon Wheels I've been carrying round all day are consumed. We warble along more-or-less charmingly to a variety of B&S choons played on the dinky record player, and mourn the lack of recorders and guitars in the vicinity. Pam's friends shie away in terror. 1:30am A trip to Ali's kebab van is made. Ah, the wonders of chips'n'cheese served by an Asian man (with, presumably, a love-hate affair with his student clientele). Oooh, I can just feel me cholesterol levels rising. Matron. Mark, Vicky and Alix head off to get a taxi back to Alix's place. I return to St. Anne's to get on my bike and ride home. Lights, who needs lights? Surprisingly, I don't even _nearly_ die on the perilous journey home, despite being rather incompetent due to chemical alteration (dunno what they put in Wagon Wheels these days). 2:00am I reach St. Hilda's more or less safely and go to bed. For a long long time. So that was wot we did on our holidays, miss. Hopefully you're not too bored. If you are, bloody sod yer then. So, farewell then. Until the next time I'm trying to put off doing my Anatomy revision... Love, Liz :x P.S. I still don't think I look like Miranda Richardson +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: That joke isn't funny anymore
by Sarah Wheeler 07 Jun '99

07 Jun '99

Hey folks I went to see "Citizen Kane" yesterday. So did Stevie Jackson and his bit of stuff. They sat nearby and I saw him do that trick with the popcorn bucket where you make a hole in the bottom and stick your finger up it, and then offer the popcorn to your friend[1]. She got an awful fright. I hope it was his finger he stuck up it, although he did seem to get considerably more pleasure from this gag than would have seemed normal. Then during the film when Kane's second wife was guessing what silhouette animals Kane was making, Stevie kept shouting out the answers[2]. Honestly, what a pest. It was a good film, but Rosebud's identity was crap. I think it very strange if a weekend goes by now, and I don't happen to come across a Belle. But really, can they make it a little less obvious, or I'm gonna go for a big appearance change. Okay, tune in next week for the latest "Stalked Sarah Scenario". Lots of love Sheeny Sarah x [1] and [2] are complete fabrication. In fact, all Stevie did was put on a nice pair of glasses and settle back and watch the screen. Boooooooring. ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.0860/0640 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: fratboy ahead
by Jan Imgrund 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

Bonsoir list. I did not quite succeed in being the first to admit to being in a "greek system", but at least the first who is in a fraternity.. not that I'm proud now.. Well I have to say it's maybe a bit different for me, as I am in a german fraternity and not in an american one, and if all that has been said about the "greek system" is true, then it's quite similar in some respects, but very different in others. I'll start with the similaritties, because that's shorter. We also like to have parties, and the music at those parties is not exactly high art. But we do not have ugly rituals for being accepted, and no one of us pays for coming in. What a hilarious idea really! Another major difference is that being in a fraternity is not common at all; there is not a majority of "fratboys", but a very very vast minority: at the german university I've been (Cologne), there were about 500 in a total of 60,000. Sororities exist, but they are so few that I've never seen a real sorority "sister" until now... So, if anything, it's us who get bullied and not the other way around. As for the thing that fratboys are all stupid jocks, I can agree to the sinister sorority girl: I've met lots of stupid and narrow-minded people through the fraternity, and I've met lots of wonderful people as well. You can't categorize this, and while I believe all of you when you say that most of the american fratboys are just horrible (I'm noticing a severe lack of abuse language in my vocabulary here :), I think it's mostly due to the fact that they are so many... and the majority is mostly dumb. I doubt those people would be much better outside of a fraternity. But, on the subject of horrible fraternities, I should not pass under silence that the most hateable species of fraternities also stems from Germany: it's those who have fencing-dueling tournaments against each other with the obejctive of getting cuts in the face which leave scars... the scars being something you're supposed to be proud of as a sign that you're particularly courageous... I won't even try to explain that kind of thing, because I don't understand it myself. What's more, many of those fraternities are known to be meeting points of the extreme-right, neo-nazi scene. It's a real problem for all german fraternities, because everyone thinks they are all like that and think you're a racist when you say that you are in a fraternity. And I am not, believe me... besides a few of my fraternity brothers are members of the socialist party. And as for homophobic, well... a majority of them are gay, so that's not really an issue either ;) So why did I go there myself, you might be asking. Am I such a saddo that I could not find friends otherwise? Please ask, because I want to answer. Never mind, I'll answer anyway. Well I met some of my best friends there, and a few of them are people who I would have had no chance to meet otherwise, because they are living in completely different worlds, so to say. And that's interesting. And there's a certain atmosphere to a fraternity ( at least to the one I am in), that might be hard to describe to someone who has not experienced it. It's different whether you are friends with someone, even a very good friend, or if you call him "brother" and know that you've got a bond with him that will last a lifetime... I'm not sure if it would feel anything like that in an american frat, though.. maybe in some.. but I certainly would have trouble feeling at ease in a community where you had to pay for and that tortured you before they let you in. And, just for the record, I'd like to point out that I have indeed friends out of the fraternity. More than inside, that is. This just to say that not all fraternities are *evil*... sorry for my english. It's a little bit too poor to express complicated things like that. I wanted to say something about bullying as well, but it's so late now already.. well I'll try to keep it short. I can not say I have been bullied, but I was an outsider all the time. I started out being extremely shy in the first years of school, keeping to myself most of the time and having next-to-no friends, and reading unreasonable amounts... the first thing that saved me was literature, and I was extremely lucky to have a library directly inside the school that had got all of the German ( and also some foreign) literature. So instead of spending the breaks with my classmates and having the kind of fun you're supposed to have at that age, I spend them all in the library, reading. In fact, if I remember well, I spend all my time between 14 and about 18 doing nothing much else than reading... Of course I wanted to become a writer... I still do, though I'm afraid it might be more difficult than I first thought... And listened only to classical music until about 16 (Ah, Berlioz! listen to Hector Berlioz. Pure wild emotion.) Finally I got some friends, all boys, computer nerds, we had good fun together, none of us ever saw a girl from nearer than arm-length... In the last years in school, I got a little bit more self-confident, although just a little.. it was then that I discovered pop music. This is something that has to be said in favour of MTV, by the way, because it was through them that I got to know pop music. Of course it was a long way to go until there was really good music, but it was a start. And, might I say to the younger ones among us, there once was a time, long ago and far away, when MTV was not all that bad. Bad, but not *that* bad. Suede was my first revelation in pop music. From Beethoven to Suede... They were my second life-saver after the books, so to say. Maybe you get an impression of the situation I was in when I say that there was no one in my entire year who had ever heard of them. I mean, Suede. I don't expect anyone to know B&S... Didn't I say somewhere up there I wanted to keep it short? Ok, now I will. Let's just skip 5 years. Where do we find our hero? depressed, lovelorn, suicidal? Not really. I don't really know how it came about, if I knew I would tell you so you can all do the same, but I got much more self-confident once I had started university; seems to be something that happened to quite a few of you. I've found friends, people with whom I can talk about everything, I can make compliments to girls so that they blush and not me, I live in a wonderful city, far away from home, with an adorable girl... and, quite a good example that jessica had, I had a birthday party for my 24th.. the first one since I was 12 or so. It's very strange, come to think of it. And, after all, I do not regret not having spent my youth at parties. The general culture and knowlegde I got in this years is something for life; I've even noticed, a disadvantage of having a life, that I hardly read good literature any more, due to lack of time.. Have you noticed just how many famous people have similar stories about their youth to what you've all told? The only example I have in mind right now is Uma Thurman, who said everyone mocked her ugliness when she was young, but I know there are many others. Strange if you think that many of the so-called "cool" would have bullied their idols if they had been in class with them... My theory is that if you have been an outsider at the school, you become more self-critical as an adult, and that might lead you to be more open-minded and also more tolerant than those who always heard they were the best and therefore never see the need question anything and to improve as a person. That's not to say that we, the "different" ones, are better, but... if you have to go through all this hardship in school, I do believe that there is something good in this. should I become a preacher? I better stop now until I heal the world. bonne nuit. Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Aaah...sorry!
by Chris Jones 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

Sorry Stu and friends. I have just listened to the album for a second time, and somehow it sounds 1 million times better; even Beyond The Sunrise! I love it now! Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: How do pheasants walk?
by Chris Jones 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

Well, I bought the album today. It's really depressing, perhaps a little too much so for my liking. Every time you think it's going to cheer up they stick in a few more minor chords. I Fought In A War, The Chalet Lines, Woman's Realm and Family Tree are the stand out tracks I think. What is Beyond The Sunrise. It sounds really strange, as if there are mistakes in it. Much as I hate to admit it, I don't really like that one. The best thing about the album is the fact that they most definitely have not sold out. It's not commercial at all, even if it is a little somber for my liking. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Girls and Boys together
by Julie Smith 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

(once upon a time) So I was a bit nervous about showing up for the San Francisco picnic-in-a-bar because I'd heard from other Sinisterines that the attendance record in the past was less than purrr-fect. Mainly, no people showing up at all. But, in my curiousity to meet some of these people I decided to chance it. Just my luck, I was the first one there and since we hadn't given very good descriptions (except Tara, who was very explicit) I was stuck standing by the wall in a very crowded bar,looking around for other lost-looking people who arrived by themselves. I went up to one girl and said, lamely, 'Are you looking for people you know? Or people you don't know?' She was very nice about it, but I must have looked like an ass. After that experience, I just smiled brightly at anyone solo coming in, and the bouncer/check ID guy must have thought I was picking up tricks or something. After what seemed like hours (and was probably twenty minutes) I got a smile which answered my own from a girl who interestingly enough, I had always thought was male (from her posts, not her looks of course). And then suddenly, more people came out of the woodwork, and it became what I hoped it would be-- interesting people talking about Belle and Sebastian, music, bowlie, and even at one point, thanks to Youn, linguistics. So the rest of you Bay Area kids, try to come to the next meeting (probably before Looper, I'd imagine) we really won't bite! Julie _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: another pathetic school story
by jessica 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

i'm a little foggy from an extreme night out, so you'll have to bear with me. i've got to write an essay and a scientific report in this state, so if anyone takes pity on me and would like to send me anything that falls into either of these two categories, that would be appreciated. about school: i never had an easy time in school. when i was really young, up until about age 10, i was The Bully, which meant that nobody wanted me on their team, nobody would work with me in class, and nobody came near me at recess. which i guess was really fine because i was a miserable kid anyways, but it's left me with a school record thicker than my arm and only one memory of a sleepover. i didn't have any friends and i never once thought that suburban life was idyllic. i discovered music in a big way once i entered junior high, there was a boy i had a crush on that gave me a tape of the cure and i was instantly obsessed. this led to me spiking my hair a la robert smith, wearing loads of black eyeliner and being beat up and thrown against lockers because i was different and strange. thank goodness i grew out of that by the time i got to highschool (although i still hold the cure in a fond place in my heart). oh, i was also a riot grrl during junior high and the earlier parts of highschool which didn't make me any friends because nobody knew what it was. it just scared them. i made a couple friends in highschool...mostly boys, the two girl friends that i had later went on to sleep with my boyfriend, who ironically was horribly jealous of any of my male friends. i got into more indie music, like dinosaur and pavement and the pixies and stereolab, but nobody knew who they were. which doesn't really matter, but it's so nice to be able to share good music with other people. i later found out that people thought i had this amazingly cool life because i wrote record reviews and put out a zine and went to concerts and got paid to take photos of bands. which i guess sounds cool in retrospect, but i was doing all this stuff by myself (well, the possessive boyfriend went to concerts with me to prevent me talking to other people) and still didn't have anyone to eat lunch with or hang out with if class was cancelled. music was really the thing that saved me...kids can really be cruel over the smallest differences, and although my mother maintains that "you would have had friends if you didn't listen to that strange music", i don't think that's the case at all. i've never really fit in, even when i was little i didn't have friends that i played with or could invite to my birthday party...as a matter of fact, i haven't had a birthday party since i was 5. but from when i was really young, i learned that it's easier to pretend that you don't care, and if you do it long enough you end up cold and really not caring at all. yeah, i was completely evil in grade school, but in highschool i was just quiet and kept to myself, which was likely the result of being beat up for saying anything. it's only recently that i've had friends that i can talk to, people that i can tell about good bands and that can tell me about good bands and that i can phone for no reason. i've never had a saved by the bell or degrassi existence. my life right now is the closest i've come to that, and it's still not at all what we're meant to believe is the way things should be. oh dear, i'm hungover and feel quite shit at the moment, which i'm sure you can tell by reading this. congratulations if you've made it this far. my belle and sebastian content is that i've made more good friends because of this band than i've had in my whole life. love, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: mtv UK
by Marianne Bratlie 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

katrina wrote... > >well, as I mentioned a week ago, 'Alternative Nation' on MTV UK will be >presenting a Belle & Sebastian special on Tuesday 29th June...." ..being a scandinavian there is no chance for me to get to see this, unless, if.. a) I go to the UK, and rent a tv ... b) one of you kind sinister souls tape it for me, and send it to Norway, where I then will be the most happy girl in the world, (I will pay the costs, send you the casette, whatever you want me to...) e-mail me privatly if you are my rescuing angel, I will be crossing my fingers while I`m waiting. Thankyou!! Marianne > +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: duran2
by Snowinsumr＠aol.com 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

In a message dated 6/6/1999 12:00:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Taranicole(a)aol.com writes: << (I STILL cannot understand why one attendee seemed embarrassed to admit to Duran Duran as her first concert?? Go back and listen to "7 and the Ragged Tiger" and you'll find amodern day classic, I guarantee you.) >> my first concert was duran duran...my father took me...it's a nice memory...i agree that she shouldn't be embarrassed....my favorite song is "serious" from the liberty album...or maybe "secret oktober" which is the b-side to "union of the snake"... :) shy hugs... meganelise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Mrs Roger Hargreaves indeed
by Mark Ollerenshaw 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

Hi, Having just graduated from the Sinister Nursery, I thought I'd better post if only to be able to say I've written words read by over 1000 people. A scary thought, indeed. On the subject of books, I'd recommend The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas, in which a guy is wrongfully imprisoned for years and then escapes and wreaks revenge over about eleven hundred pages. It's very good, though, take my word for it (if a bit of a commitment...). Also, Mr Strong by Roger Hargreaves - in my opinion the best of the Mr Men books. Watch out for the twist at the end, though - it took me by suprise. Someone asked a while back whether Roger Hargreaves was a woman, but being in nursery limbo, I was unable to reply - I can confirm, however, that Roger Hargreaves was a woman, or at least a bit confused. (S)he's listed on the publishing history page as Mrs Roger Hargreaves. So there you go. I don't think I've ever inserted anything of interest up my nose, although when I was a child I almost choked on an Aniseed ball, to which I now have a terrible aversion - who can blame me, though - the little bastard almost killed me... My sister has a hamster called Colin, for what that's worth - not a very fishy name, though, I have to admit. Mind you, at primary school the class goldfish were called Zippy and Zappy - the results of a "First out of the Hat" style draw. They only lasted a term or two, though - my friend took them home for the Easter holiday and managed to kill them - by neglect or abuse we never found out. The line in Seymour Stein definitely goes "Has he ever seen Dundee?", not "North of Scotland has he seen?" as written in the lyric sheet. Also, the line in the lyric sheet at the end of that verse goes "Seymour bring her back to me" but is sung "Seymour send her back to me" which conveys a completely different meaning, if you can be bothered to work it out - I can't, though, due to the amount of revision I ought to be doing for my A levels this summer. Do bands/record labels deliberately change the lyrics in the CD book bit to keep fans on their toes? I think we should be told. Anyway, that's enough of that. Maybe I ought to go and do something constructive... Apologies for anything I've discussed which was cleared up ages ago - I have a backlog of 210 Sinister messages taking up space in my Inbox which I just don't have time to read - it's not that I'm lazy in particular, just overworked, that's all. Mark Ollerenshaw PS: I'm curious - am I the only person who rates Subcircus? They released an album a few years back, did a session or two for Mark & Lard on their (much missed) Graveyard slot and then vanished into thin air, so to speak. I now get the feeling that I'm the only person that bought their album (Carousel, which is actually very good) and they gave the whole music lark up, bitter and cynical indviduals. "Keeping an open mind is a virtue - but not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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