February 2000 - Sinister

Sinister: nature boy
by pulped 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

Hiya, and wow - has it been a long time since I've written anything here... I'd just like to know if anyone else got the chance to see the new series 'Nature Boy' on BBC2 last night. I really thought it was great, unflinching, and rather compelling throughout. It goes to show that there is sometimes a ray of hope between all the dross usually associated with TV. Introduced with the Beth Orton theme song, and very brutal (but brutally honest) in huge parts... And next week it even involves a family of foxes. Ah well, just thought I's share my little experience with you. Take care everyone... Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: depression, eh?
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

Before anyone else gets cross, let me just make myself clear: I'm not denegrating people with depression. Read my post again. Jesus, enough of my friends and family have suffered from it / are suffering from it for me not to be so stupid. I was resenting the glamorisation of it, such as Zoe's friend seem to be expressing. >Depression is something i'm sure we've >all experienced at some point in our lives Err - I'm not sure you can really say this, but I suppose it comes down to definitions. I appreciate that the bit about wearing one's illness on one's sleeve might have appeared inflamatory, but it wasn't actaully meant as a slight upon anyone. It just occurred to me to make the (separate) point that even if an artist is suffering from depression, it needn't necessarily be explicit in their work. People may choose (or manage) to concern to shift the focus away from that. Neither am I slagging off Nick Drake: >that is wrong, but don't misjudge himself just > because *some* people tend to do that. Err - I didn't. I made no comment on Nick Drake's music at all, only on the attitude that B&S aren't as important as him *because* he was a depressive. Incidentally, I might be wrong about this, but I'm not sure he was *manic*-depressive - people often attribute manic-depression to artists just because they think it sounds more interesting. I think he was just a plain old unipolar depressive! For the record, I love his records to bits. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. Friends? Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Auction of b&s goodies/catholics have no problem with gay people, just gay sex
by BabyChris Crystalballs 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

okay. hi. First things first - I'm holding an auction (on ebay) of signed b&s records (all the lps) and posters (modern rock song, tigermilk, and manchester town hall gigs) It's all helping to pay for an adventure week for some kids with learning and behavioural problems. if you want to check out that it is all "pukka" and above board, go to http://www.outwardbound-uk.org/project_skills.html okay? I'll give more details of the auction tomorrow. next - the section 28 thing. I could go on for an age and a fucking half about this. I think if people are going to discuss this, then they should know the facts of both sides of the argument. I personally don't believe that a homosexual lifestyle and family environment(ie. - katy stays with ron and dave, or whatever that book was) should be promoted as a replacement for a hetrosexual family environment, as it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or 'mothers'. although I am a catholic (and incedentally, the cardinal lives 4 houses away from me, and is a bit of an arsehole, as stu M pointed out) religion doesn't really enter my argument. However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child. also, just the simple physiological structure of man and woman is such that they are desinged to have sex with one another. Apparently some grown men have had to walk around with nappies due to damage caused to their arse muscles. our re teacher told us that. he also told us how lesbian sex 'happens'. That whole fisting malarkey was news to me. We DO talk about sex in re. We DO talk about homosexuality, and hetrosexuality. We DO NOT deny that gay people exist. we do realise that boys fancy boys, and girls fancy girls. we do not have a problem with that. we just do not agree with any sort of sex ouside marriage, whether it be homo or hetrosexual. In fact, all the catholics that I know are more tolerant of homosexuals that the people I know who are not gay. Why? because part of the christian way of life is that everyone is equal, no- one should be picked on due to being different. and we do realise that other people have other views, and while I may not agree with them, I respect their right to have them. I don't think that promoting homosexuality in schools will change anything, because bigoted attitudes, are more often than not, created in the home, and no amout of persuading by a teacher will change a childs views from what thier parents taught them. If the parents were not bigoted, then neither would the children be. AND,AS STU m SAID - Stagecoach is SHITE. even if it costs less. But First Bus GAY? how can a bus company have a sexuality? beats me. I hope I haven't offended anyone in this mail. I just wanted to put across the true story of the catholic church, as they are so often misquoted, and misunderstood. remember the auction. Chris (not an arse-hole) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: new 'guardian' diary entries (fwd)
by honey＠missprint.org 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

Dotmusic exclusive did I say? Which looks like it might mean "we exclusively nicked it from the band's WWW site". You'll spot a remarkable similarity between Dotmusic's "exclusive" I passed on and the second B&S band entry below from Stuart. Anyway, the band office passed on these two new entries which should be the Mick's own WWW site now at: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ Listening to Lambchop's new LP and eating chocolate raisins. The perfect combination mmm. Exclusively yours, Miss Honey x -- Sin"is*ter (?), a. [Accented on the middle syllable by the older poets, as Shakespeare, Milton, Dryden.] [L. sinister: cf. F. sinistre.] 1. On the left hand, or the side of the left hand; left; -- opposed to dexter, or right. Here on his sinister cheek." Shak. "My mother's blood Runs on the dexter cheek, and this sinister Bounds in my father's Shak." ---------- Forwarded message ---------- DIARY OF A BAND 26th January 2000 Part 7 of Guardian's exclusive Belle & Sebastian's diary Well, aren't you glad that's all over and we can get back to normal? Yes, the winter shutdown has finished and after Saturday the sports pages will have something real to write about instead of 'Roy Keane to join Celtic in three years' or 'Old Firm to play in League of Wales'. Meanwhile, work continues apace on the album. Every morning we turn up at the studio, plug in and jam solidly for eight hours. Stuart freeforms vocally over the top. Meaningless syllables or the perfect language of Adam- who knows. I shout out a clue from the Herald crossword. Stevie solos on a stringed instrument made from a live turtle acquired on a recent promotional trip to Madagascar. "This is great," says Tony. He downs a bottle of Jack Daniels, and turns every knob on the desk up full. A mobile phone rings. Tony puts a microphone on it. "More phone in my headphones," says Richard. We hit a groove. Tony hits record. It needs strings. The manuscript paper goes round like a peace pipe. Everyone writes two bars then passes it on. A phone call is made and within minutes the London Symphony Orchestra arrives, bringing with them an immense Chinese take-away. They settle down in the lounge to watch a Fast Show video. "Where's Richard?" someone asks. Turns out he is downstairs recording an EP of Australian-Croat drinking songs with Mark Viduka. By now we are drunk. We row furiously over whose turn it is to read Mojo, and the band breaks up. Stuart gives everyone a lift home. Tomorrow it will all start again, but now there are only six days left until the bailiffs come for our instruments. Chris Geddes ******************** DIARY OF A BAND 9th February 2000 Band member quits! Gay buses! It must be the latest Belle & Sebastian diary I heard that a spokeswoman for the band was fervently denying that Stuart David had left the band. Well, I'm fervently admitting that he is leaving the band. He's got his hands full with Looper, so he's quite happy to get on with that. We wish him all the best. Since I last wrote, the Nation has stood up proudly to declare its prejudice. "Yes we admit gay people exist, but as long as nobody talks about it we should be alright." In a class of 30 or so kids, two or three of them will grow up knowing they are gay. Section 28 denies they exist. It's prejudice pure and simple. You might as well legislate against left-handedness. "Class, we know there are left-handed people in the class. We tried in the past to make them write with their other hand, but we were wrong to do that. But if we ignore them maybe they will die out." I actually think that people are pretty tolerant. I think if you got rid of the clause nobody would give a shit. Old gits like Winning must just be scared of a Gay Tide coming to sweep the land. Why can't he just respect people's preferences. We respect his. We respect his right not to have sex. He should just admit that some girls fancy girls and some boys fancy boys. And that guy from Stagecoach can fuck off as well. His buses are shite anyway. Firstbus is a much better company. Firstbus is the funky gay bus company. I was suspicious when they took over Glasgow's buses but you should never be afraid of change. Like when Jack MacPhee 'Fresh from the Sea' took over from Lorettas- we tried it once and we never looked back. Stuart Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: why'd she use the f word when she never ever spoke
by Angel Blackwell 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

Wanna know what I got for Valentine's Day? Mugged/robbed. Oh well, that's what I get for living in a neighbourhood nicknamed crack alley. It was stupid because I'm a little push over bean pole, but at least they only took my booze and gave me back my photos...muggers with a heart of gold. Okay, StuD's gone, and I'm glad. There will prolly now be a better flow and direction to the albums coming out from B&S... Venereal Day is passed as well...quite uneventful I guess...but that's just me. I had my boyfriend and my the exboyfriend before him sitting with me on the couch watching a horrible episode of Ally McBeal. This was pretty romantic for me...ask Diana and Debbie, the only reason they knew Justice was my boyfriend was because he happened to live with me...heehee. If books on How to Be Successful are all 50% off, the authors of said books are in a way failures themselves if there's extra stock left over? luv and squishes the angel of crack alley. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: depression? eh?
by idle berry 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

well, personally I reckon theres a lot of arrogant and frankly, disgustingly ignorant people discussing depression at the moment. while its easy for people to look at it and think "yeah! right" and consider it merely a trend, you know theres a lot of people who suffer depression for real. Depression is something i'm sure we've all experienced at some point in our lives, whether it is the death of a member of our family or a friend (grief) or if its just having a low day (crap). There's nothing black and white about it, what might get me upset for example, won't bother other people. and vice versa. I don't believe that just because someone can say "I am depressive" as a medical statement means that they are the only one with the right to be depressed. There are many different levels of depression. Sometimes depression is a lot deeper and sometimes it passes by with time, depending upon the situation and circumstances. And I certainly don't think that its a term that people who suffer it on a medical level use lightly to make themselves sound "profound". In fact, I can't really imagine why anyone would say it to make themselves sound profound or interesting. So if you really want to discuss this, at least have a little thought for what you're discussing and the people who you so arrogantly dismiss for saying they have depression. Whether its about being medically depressed or being depressed on a level thats not quite so dark, its not a subject that should be treated so flipantly. Thanks. ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: and not everyone with depressions wears it on their sleeve.. .
by Tiago Romeu 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

> >Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:12:30 +0000 >From: Nick.Dastoor(a)guardian.co.uk > >I'm sure your friend would claim you're misquoting her. But if not, you can >tell her from me HA HA HA HA HA. Yeah man, like he really 'lived it'. >Sometimes I wonder if I've built up a straw man when I set myself against this >kind of absurd position, so it's nice to see there really are people who hold >believe in it. Depressed = profound = worthwhile. Yeah, right. > >I don't actually deny that there are some artists whose mental illness and >artistry are impossible to disentangle, but to over-extend from this and say >that if art isn't doomy and/or epic then it's second-rate, well that's just >bloody daft. And not everyone with depression wears it on their sleeve. > hummmmm... not only he has lived but he also died for it. as far as i know, he commited suicide precisely due to a neurosis of maniac-depression. i believe you are onyl against the fact that people consider him worthwhile just because he suffered. that is wrong, but don't misjudge himself just because *some* people tend to do that. he is worthy because he made beautiful and very honest, simple and personal music. and b&s may be a bit more uplifting but songs like "the boy done wrong again" or "we rule the school" are not that far away from nick's atmosphere itself. about charles schultz => tender people should not die. a sinister handshake tiago +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Uninteresting correction
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

> Yes, it really is a good read. Know what you mean about the Morrissey thing, >but in its defence I would say that joe brennan (who posts here under his 'cute' >name of p f, or pinefox) writes the most spot-on description of why Morrissey >lyrics are good even though in some ways they're shit that I have ever read. Err - for 'joe brennan' read 'joe brooker'. Lay in bed last night and thought 'I wrote brennan not brooker'. It was a terrible moment. Who is joe brennan? He must be on my mind. I got no post at all yesterday, which was unusual. There's usually at least one Freeman's catalogue or invitation to take out a bank loan. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "Slightly off-topic thread becomes on-topic!" shocker!
by honey＠missprint.org 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

Moobury Mark said: > Sorry to go on, once again... but I'm curious, can any of this > bullshit reasonably be reasoned? I don't know much about biology > or neurology - I'm a philosophy student - but I do have an interest > inb whether ideas which seem ridiculous can be argued for. I can't > imagine any possible way in which such blatent biggotry could be > defended, and I'd really love to meat someone who thinks > otherwise... preferably down a dark alleyway, armed with a > baseball bat and a healthy set of emotions.... I *did* like the typo "meat" in this by the way. I'm not sure if it was a by-mistake-on-purpose typo, in which case I'm embarrasssed now :) Mark, the only (non-religious) argument left "against" being gay as far as I can see (as if you can argue "against" the existence of irons or ironing boards) is that "it's not natural!". It's the one my Dad uses when he's not watching Blind Date. Something about them not making babies, which I think shows what some people thought sex was for all along. When you say "well is wearing clothes or making toast natural?" you're told not to be ridiculous and later on you get shouted at for not taking the dishes into the kitchen and leaving your shoes lying around. The religious arguments are all based on a few verses in the bible, which seem to put being gay on a par with drunkeness, so you lot are in trouble; and they completely gloss over the fact that we don't take the sin of wearing purple clothing (Leviticus somewhere) quite as seriously. Sorry for those who like Leviticus, but I do get a bit tired of this, I'm not trying to be offensive, but it just is a bit in some people's hands you know? Anyway to the point of my mail. I'm sure www.godhatesfags.com won't like this one, which I've included below: http://dotmusic.com/news/February2000/news12969.asp "'You might as well legislate against left-handedness,' said Murdoch.", presumably thinking of what being Sinister is all about (in latin). Aww :) For non-UKers, Section 28 was a law brought in under the blessed Mrs Thatcher which banned "the promotion" of homosexuality in schools, and its retention is being clung too by the Conservatives (and my Dad presumably) right now. Except in Scotland where they seem to have nearly got rid of it with hardly a mention in the British news. For "the promotion", in practice read "mentioning it as existing". A recent study in Edinburgh showed that gay people were four times more likely to get beaten up. Not sure if that's natural or not, I'll check with my Dad. Honey x (P.S. yes the archives are completely gummed up - I'm resurrecting them elsewhere. Thanks for letting me know xxx) --- EXCLUSIVE: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN BASH THE BISHOP Belle and Sebastain frontman Stuart Murdoch has launched a vitriolic attack on Clause 28, the British legislation which prevents the promotion of homosexuality in schools. Murdoch has also spoken for the first time about the departure of Stuart David from the band, which was exclusively announced on dotmusic last week.(*) Murdoch said Clause 28, which is currently under review by the government, is 'prejudice pure and simple'. 'The nation has stood-up proudly to declare its prejudice. 'Yes we admit gay people exist, but as long as nobody talks about it we would be alright'. In a class of 30 or so kids, two or three of them will grow-up knowing they are gay. 'Section 28 denies they exist. It's prejudice pure and simple. You might as well legislate against left-handedness,' said Murdoch, whose band won a Brit award last year for Best Newcomers. Murdoch also weighed into Cardinal Thomas Winning, the Head of the Roman Catholic church in Scotland. 'I actually think people are pretty tolerant. I think if you got rid of the clause, nobody would give a shit. 'Old gits like Winning must just be scared of a Gay Tide coming to sweep the land. Why can't he just respect other people's preferences. We respect his. We respect his right not to have sex. He should just admit that some girls fancy girls and some boys fancy boys.' Talking about David's decision to quit Belle and Sebastian, Murdoch said: 'He's got his hands full with Looper, so he's quite happy to get on with that. We wish him all the best.' --- (*) apart from when he more or less said it himself a few months ago in that online chat :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "Having a Boo Radley moment, are we?"
by Laura Llew 15 Feb '00

15 Feb '00

And now it's time for a post from Laura Llew. I hope that you find it entertaining, whimsical, and yet relevant, with an underlying visionary tone that belies Laura's emotional attachment to the subject matter...... OR at least something to do with your right finger as you click the delete key. Somehow I just could not resist the temptation of posting on this vapid Valentine's Day (happy sappy day, bitter day, emasculation day, singles awareness day, etc.). Though I have a wealth of friends, I'm really quite single and no matter what the benefits of reciprocal social integrational relationships are - it's just not the same as a boyfriend. Though please spare me the "being single is great" spiel. I just read an interesting analogy of how sex like supermarkets. You know, overrated. Just a lot of pushing and shoving and you still come out with very little at the end. Anyway, my point (which my hair covers nicely) is that I wasn't expecting this Valentines to be a good day. Happily, I was proven wrong. Not only did I get flowers, but I got books and music. What Valentine's Day could go wrong with a book? So, I spent my day happily whiling away the hours on a book that I should have read but never got around to (isn't that the definition of a classic?). I even got a pixies tape that I love today from am/fm digital surround sound John, my popex mentor. Oh the joys of the pixies and of popex. I was quite excited to see that my chums list "Since 1977" was the fourth biggest on popex (i just add everyone on my family tree and who's in sinister. If you want to be added just let me know your #). How BLUDDY GRATE. I remember quite a bit of talk (ok subject lines) of John Updike on the list a few months go. Just a lot of people seemed to be reading Run Rabbit Run. Well, has anyone read his new one "Gertrude and Claudius"? It takes the story of Hamlet before the play begins so that Hamlet's father is still alive. Yes, it even portrays the King as being a piggish man and Hamlet as being foppish (or so I hear from the reviews). I've always found that the different takes on Hamlet are quite interesting. I mean not the stories themselves but the ideas for them. I've always thought that the main idea behind "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" was an intriguing one, even if the actual play does drone on for quite a bit. Has anyone else wonder how Sarah and Leyla type their posts. Do they take turns, does one do all the typing and just gets dictated to for half of the posts, or is one sitting on the other's lap. I think a picture to the sinister page is in order! Don't worry girls, you'll become famous. Wheaties boxes, video games, action figures, and an option in Mark's choose your own adventure posts....- the sky's the limit! Marie Elia wrote about the glories of crocheting again. Yes, we're forming a crocheting possee, gang, milk maid union, or something of the violent and ruffian nature. Down with the knitters! (Don't take that literally Ree). I was quite relieved to see that Marie didn't take offense to what I said about her in my last post. In fact, she was delighted to finally be "revealed" to the public. Of course, I don't dare say it would have been the first time for that. Well, I guess that I missed Valentine's day with this post. Oh well. A friend just reminded me in an e-mail of all these Peanuts memories. 'Snoopy once called February 15th "Gloat Day", since that's when you gloat over all the valentines you got the day before. Another Peanuts V-day memory - Charlie Brown rehearsing, over and over again, how he's going to present a valentine to Violet, as he's walking her way. Each time, he ends with "Happy Valentine's Day." But when he hands her the card, he says, "Merry Christmas." (Gary Larson would do a Far Side cartoon on this same theme - do you remember its closing line?)' I better stop now before I have to lean on Steve C's shoulder and cry. Love and Woodstock Laura ***************Laura Llew's Favorite New Listee********************* This goes out to the most charming Welsh boy who has quite endeared himself to me as my new younger brother. Not only does he have a great name but he's quite amusing and light hearted. So, please everyone be nice to the lovely.......... Llywelyn............ (or else). PS- notice that there was no bitterness at all in this? I'm quite impressed with myself. Nor did I make any disparaging remarks about boys like that they should just draw yellow lines down their back so girls don't collide when we walk all over them. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. 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