July 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: Bleeding Gums
by MCFC9＠aol.com 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

As far as braces go, I would recommend them, especially now. They have gotten to be much more efficient than in previous years, even in the last few years. The ones they can use(and do in the US) are almost invisible, and from what I hear quite painless. From personal experience, I'm very glad I got braces, it ended up making me much more attractive. How bout that? Hooray for medical insurance, boo to your national health service. Mike from America +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Bleeding Gums
by Will Salt 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

marybeth mentioned Douglas Coupland, and has got me banging my head on the wall. I'm *sure* I recently (ie, a few months back) bought a CD with a track which (I think) contained an allusion to Coupland's "Microserfs", but I haven't a clue what it was. Aaargh! This is going to bug me all night, now. What is Coupland's taste in music, anyway? Does anyone know? ISTR he wrote the sleeve notes to the last-but-one St. Etienne album. Someone else said that they're going to have braces fitted on their teeth. This is a baaaad idea, and I'm speaking from personal experience here. When I was younger (yes, much younger than today) I had a brace cemented behind my bottom teeth, and over the 6 months or so it was fitted my gums grew over and completely covered part of it. When I had it removed, the dentist had to cut it into pieces, and try to thread the parts out of their fleshy cocoon. Needless to say, this *hurt*. The first thing the dentist said after taking out the final part was "I should have given you an anaesthetic before doing that, I think." On the other hand, I have no grudge about the type of braces which hold up people's trousers. Unless they snap back and hit me in the mouth. Incidentally, I notice that Adrian Evans recently rejoined the list. Are you the bloke who used to title all his messages with the names of Devon traffic-calming schemes? If not, who was? It definitely used to happen, you know. Bye for today, Will S -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: none
by Colin Ferguson 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Hi everyone! I've been on the list ages, and this is my first post. I've not been waiting until something really important comes up, so don't expect this to be remotely interesting or enlightening. I had my first and so far only B&S dream. It was pretty bizarre to say the least. Basically Stewart M was my goldfish, even though it was silver for some reason, and I somehow managed to kill him. I can't remember if I ate him or just knocked him out of the bowl. I was so upset I was going to kill myself but then I woke up. I've been having a lot of bizarre half-remembered dreams lately. The most bizarre, I can only remember in a sense resembling deja vu: as soon as I try to focus on them in my mind, they disappear. I've started a new job for the summer, and it's pretty bizarre to say the least. I like the job, but most of the people in the office are only about two years older than me, and a lot of them are married and/ or have kids. It makes me feel like a naive little child, basically. I can't even imagine being married or having kids in two years time. I suppose I'm only doing to job for the summer, whereas it's a career to them, which I suppose would make a big difference in their outlook. Nothing to do with anything, but I've had a huge disappointment. After it being strongly recommended to me by everyone, I read Catcher in the Rye and it was a huge let down. It really didn't make me feel anything; I just could not connect with Holden Cauldfield at all. I expected it to be an immensely enlightening and emotionally affecting read. Plus, call me a fascist if you must, but frankly, the prose just downright annoyed me. I think a far superior book on a similar theme is Billy Liar by Keith Waterhouse. It is superb, and was far more affecting than Catcher in the Rye. OK, that's me for today. I shall probably mail this wonderful community again in a few months, or possibly sooner, depending on how I feel. Bye -- Colin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: first post nerves
by Kate Funky 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

After some of the terrific first posts i've been seeing while in the nursery, i've been debating for almost a week whether or not to even post at all. but there are a couple of things i wanted to ask about anyway. First, i wanted to agree about douglas coupland. 'miss wyoming' is so terrific, and it's the first douglas coupland book that i could really easily visualise as a film. (am i the only one who tries to cast the film of a book while i am reading it?) coupland is a terrific author, but he has always reminded me more of radiohead than b&s. i might have to drag the books out again. The talk about picnics has been making me jealous. i would love to be in london or sheffield and rolling about on hills. but i'm in melbourne and it's winter. i'm at my parents house in the country and it's bloody freezing. so all of you northern hemisphere people remember how lucky you are right now... Is there anyone from melbourne on the list? maybe we need out own picnic. mayber when the weather is better (indoor picnic?). I can understand why people want to pretend they're canadian. i know a couple of really cool canadians. well i will post again when i actually think of something interesting to say. bye. kate. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Expensive bathos
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

> Nick was spot on when he quoted Stuart's "playing in the band > isn't a job that seven people's lives have to revolve around". The funny thing is, I'd thought I'd made that quote up. I must have an exceedingly good claim to know the mind of Stuart Murdoch after all. There was a wanky thing in the Guardian Guide last Saturday, in which top TV psychologist Oliver James offers some clues as to the mind of Eminem through an analysis of his lyrics. Apparently the 'loose chain of thought' displayed in The Real Slim Shady 'has many parallels with the schizophrenic thought pattern'. Beware rambling posters. Someone wanted to know what a Wooskie was. Actually they wanted to know what a Wooksie was, which might be different. I think someone said 'Wooskie' is some kind of nickname Stu D has for his wife Karn, but I might be wrong. I don't know why people get the 'k' and 's' the wrong way round. It's sometimes interesting when people get lyrics consistently wrong. In The Selfish Gene's appendix, in the course of his exposition of his meme theory, Richard Dawkins points out two examples and tries to account for them . It's "Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves" (ie. an exhortation, not the descriptive 'Britannia rules the waves') and it's "We'll tak a cup o'kindness yet / For auld lang syne" not "For the sake of auld lang syne". Perhaps it's not interesting in the case of Winter Wooskie/Wooksie. Residual memory traces of Chewbacca, maybe. In other news, Tom Ewing was a belated convert to Belle & Sebastian and their mimsy voiced lead singer, but now he's kind of changed his mind again. Have a look at his long, thoughtful piece at http://www.freakytrigger.com/belleseb.html and see what you think. I think he misses the mark with a lot of what he says but infuriatingly, I feel unable to articulate why. I like his sideswipe at 'a certain kind of listener [who] is going to like anything with boys and girls and a bit of cheap bathos' though. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the Last Bastian
by DelyM2＠aol.com 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

no gigs till 2001 works out just fine for me. by that time i should have plenty of bucks to dish out in case they decide not to perform in the US. (oh the bliss of optimism) so i decided just today that i might want to put braces on my top teeth. I figured i better go and do it now while braces are still in style. i'm not completely sure i want to go ahead with it though, because i dont like the idea of tampering with nature. and spaced out teeth are also "in" , no? this is a really curious list. I'm not sure I fully understand it. This whole braces things just makes it all the more confusing. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Message from Australia
by Stuart Gardiner 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Plea for help! Some of you old-time Sinisterines (a bit like Listerine, only better tasting) may remember when an exceedingly tall bloke used to roam around England, getting drunk at picnics, playing football badly, singing badly and generally getting in the way. Oh, and occasionally posting irrelevant stuff to the list. Well I'm coming back to England in the autumn, and I'm heading to Nottingham Trent Uni for the next 3 years. Except I don't have anywhere to live, and I won't be back from Australia until less than a week before I start. So, in a blatant bit of list abuse, I was wondering if anyone from around there could help me find somwhere (suggestions, listings, any info welcome!)? Just email me on TallGit(a)beer.com. I'll buy you some alcohol when I get back... So what have I been doing in my year off? Building schools for fishermen; getting stranded without food, water or shelter in the Amazon for the night; waiting for trains to turn up over a day late; walking through thunderstorms and heatwaves; and generally having the time of my life... And now I'm in Australia, where I've spent far too long in Sydney for my own good (but I'm leaving on Thursday, so I'm in a good mood today!). And if JJJ radio is to be believed, some band called Belle and Sebastian have a new single out here next week, only about 2 months late (mind you, this is the radio station who recently played a record by "Glaswegian hip-hop collective Looper"...) See you in October, Big Stu ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the leader of the pack (vroom vroom)
by mbethy 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Remember that song? Little secret for you, when I was 5 or 6 I was OBSESSED with that song. Naturally, I have grown out of it, but the other day it came on the radio en route to work. I chuckled to myself at how silly I was for liking it, but then I began to feel uneasy. In fact, I was thoroughly disturbed. I realized that I knew EVERY SINGLE WORD to the song, including the spoken inner monologue bit. Spooky to say the least. I can only remember my own brothers' names at the best of times, obviously because my memory is chock full of what it deems to be more important information. Anyway, Laura Llew's post jogged something in my otherwise cryptic memory that I thought was interesting. She first talked about books, and then a roadtrip. I happened to be reading a book the other day, and I found it enjoyable. (should you care it's miss wyoming). Anyway, I came across a passage that made me burst out laughing, I mean UNCONTROLLABLY!! I liked it so much i wrote it out and now keep a copy in my purse. I think it goes well with this list, even if the truth may hurt and you'll probably all hate me for it: "The road is over, John-O. It never even *was*. You're thinking like a kid behind a Starbucks counter sneaking peeks at his Kerouac paperback and writing 'THat's *so* true!' in the margins." Tee hEe. What a snarky little jab. The odd part is that there's another line somewhere in the book that bears a remarkable resemblance to a line from The Model. The thing about the fraud. Hmmmm.......Murdoch/Coupland collusion? I wonder...... That's all (try not to hate me, even just strong dislike will do) marybeth _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I Saw Sir Full Of Sea Crits
by David Moore 17 Jul '00

17 Jul '00

Hi Picnic-ers, B&S Tour de Jamais I've been working for 25 years now non-stop, most of the time in jobs I don't entirely find satisfaction in, but hey, you have to provide a roof, you know? If the members of Belle and Sebastian have found a way to do exactly what they want to, when they want to, not be beholden to anyone & still make a decent living, all respect to them. (I still feel sad about no gigs this year mind you, but it IS up to them.) Which One's Pink? Sarah brought up Yes, & I won a bet with myself! as I KNEW they would be the next strand in the thread. Rick Wakeman may be a good Lad, eating curries during stage performances of overlong song, but his membership of Yes coincided with the ponciest phase of their existence. Stick to Time And A Word, & The Yes Album, trust me. Fluffy, will it be King Crimson or Emerson, Lake & Palmer next? ELP were much wankier than Yes. Oh, & Starry, what is The Crazy Diamond's address, then? BTW, did I imagine it, or did someone mention the Pink Fairies the other day? The second single release on Stiff was one of theirs. It seems a bit strange to dismiss a band as crap when they've been making music for over 30 years, and have in fact been several different bands during their career. Undoubtedly the "Floyd" have produced several piles of pooh, but have also passed some er, diamonds amongst them. Nothing is ever black or white. Dismissing them entirely is a bit like oh, I dunno, saying that B&S are totally crap just because they released one lightweight ephemeral pop single or something. A Bird In The Hand August's Mo-Jo has a long Incredible String Band article in it, during the course of which they reveal that the 16 year old Kate Bush was a fan & used to vist their commune in Wales. However, they never dared introduce her to Mike Heron because he was such a shag monster. A Bird In The Hand (II) Lixi, maybe your brother is a Chaucer student (Chaunticleer? - Nun's Priest's Tale I think.) Silver & Gold Blake said: "and the new neil young is ace" But sadly its no After the Goldrush, is it? Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it takes grace to play the second fiddle well
by ian nicolson 17 Jul '00

17 Jul '00

i came home one night last week in a somewhat less than sober state and considered posting to the list, but thankfully i thought better of it. i've seen drunken postings before and god, can they be painful. it would have been fun to see what nonsense i would have written, mind. couldn't be much worse than this. there's been something of a dribble of picnic reports, rather than the usual tidal wave one might expect. but don't think you're making the rest of us jealous - i had my lunch out on the balcony of my house on saturday afternoon (which counts as a picnic in my book) and i bet i had just as much fun as anyone in sheffield or london... some people were talking about 1950's P!O!P! last week, i noticed. my favourites are the 'golden age of american rock 'n' roll' cds on ace records. i think there's about seven volumes now of u.s. chart hits and more obscure stuff from 1957-62. great for dancing around your room, singing very badly, if you enjoy that kinda thing. personally i prefer to listen to them down the park while re-enacting my favoutire scenes from 'american graffiti'. on my own. the luverly mr. neil said: > I just thought I'd drop you a line to explain the > whole "band taking a break" thing. Firstly, I'm > really surprised that this has caused anything like > a fuss. i think maybe the reason that a fuss has been caused is more to do with things being promised via the jeepster site or whatever and then being put off again and again, on more than one occasion, which is maybe beginning to piss people off a bit. personally i feel that if that's what they feel is best for them, then they should take a break. hopefully it'll do them some good. i'd be the last person to try to impose any kind of protestant work ethic thing on anyone. Magda Boom wrote> > Ian Nicolson, I think you are ace. Brian Phillips wrote> > we use "ace" as a slightly more polite "ass". aah, now i understand... luv and kisses ian n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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