October 1997 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: My top ten
by Eeyore 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

> the only b&s song i >don't love is "lazy line painter jane" (i actually like the >song lots, just not what happens to it when monica queen sings) I know the feeling. You'll be happy to hear that there's a Radio One Session version where the second vocal is sung by Isobel! It's quite good but the instrumental is better in the original version. I'm not sure if it's actually been on Radio One yet though..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: fan club fund raisers
by Eeyore 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

><< so, paul, how many people on the list? around >300? well how about if everyone chipped in, say, >two quid or the equivalent thereof... then david >and katrina could have a bit of dosh to get >themselves a new (okay, maybe second hand, i >dunno) computer, thereby enabling them to carry on >their excellent and worthwhile tasks in honour of >the Pop group we all love so much :-) >> > >Definately, whatever it takes....it makes so much difference to know >what's *really* going on within the big wheels of the business where our >heroes are concerned. > >Count me in.... > >Mike And me! Ninette >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel >homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: NME article
by stephen troussé 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

I've just the read the NME feature and it's a rum old do. Essentially, James Oldham goes up to Glasgow and finds that none of the band particularly wants to be photographed and they're even less keen on being interviewed. The article details the journalist's growing exasparation, concluding as follows: "From afar, their success looks like a triumph for principled actions, up close it looks like an accident of bad behaviour. After all, here is a band who seem to object to doing interviews and photographs simply because they can't be bothered rather than because of any radical manifesto. It's hardly punk rock is it? Still it's their prerogative." I don't think the band come out of it particularly well, and it seems like this kind of thing is likely to happen more and more as they become increasingly successful. And if the band don't want to do interviews, the press is going to run the articles anyway, rehashing all this stuff about them being truculent, un-cooperative gits. Is there any way out of this ? I remember Dexys used to take out adverts instead of doing interviews, but it does seem to smack of paranoia... Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: NME article
by Andrew Dean 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

um, nme article (at least what i've read of it so far) made me think (worryingly) of the huggy bear thing where they turned their backs on the music press and got crucified for it. see also: morrissey. don't the mags realise that interviews / photo sessions eat up a lot of time and not everyone's comfortable doing them? didn't they here the radio one interview from last week (where chris said that going in the nme was pointless)? has anyone else read eno's diary where he insists on being paid for a WiReD interview on the grounds that it was, like, a day of his life that could've been spent doing better things? um, can someone ocr the article, it's too long for me to type. i actually liked the goldie / krs1 / boymerang remix btw duke. would've prefered it if it had the original version on there too instead of that other nonsense. looking forward to the roni size / photek thing too (see roni size on that radio 1 evening the other week? was very strange. drum 'n' bass (ish) with real drummer and a double bass). b-side of new propellerheads 12" is cool btw. can anyone name me a bad record with sonar beeps in it? >Mr.Andrew Dean...my sister Maryann sent you messages >but it keeps on bouncing back ...She wants to know if >you have already mailed off the Field Mice tape.. ah, at least there's some benefit in having a write only mailbox... it went off sometime last night. why? andy koogybelbbog(a)yahoo.com for one week only ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: sorted for vids....
by Eeyore 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

Hello, Can anyone tell me what the new B&S video is like? I've now seen 2 seconds of it on Hit List UK as they wouldn't play it (not even in the 2-hour version on Sunday!). I've been sitting next to the tv, all ready to tape it, but in vain.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: My top ten
by J M Forsyth 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

-----Original Message----- From: Eeyore <s9720251(a)student.let.uva.nl> To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date: 29 October 1997 13:07 Subject: Re: Sinister: My top ten > > >> the only b&s song i >>don't love is "lazy line painter jane" (i actually like the >>song lots, just not what happens to it when monica queen sings) > >I know the feeling. You'll be happy to hear that there's a Radio One Session >version where the second vocal is sung by Isobel! It's quite good but the >instrumental is better in the original version. >I'm not sure if it's actually been on Radio One yet though..... > That's uplifting news - it always makes me cringe, and if I'd heard it before any other B&S stuff I would have written them off as sub-Deacon Blue. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Saturday Superstore
by Eeyore 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

>Can anyone tell me what "This Life" is? I see it referred to >a lot, but I don't know what it is. I know what "This is >Your Life" is. > I can! It's kind of a reality-soap-drama-programme which was on the BBC last year. It's about the lives and loves of a group of young lawyers (all twenty-somethings) who share a flat in London. I don't think it's on at the moment, but I hope there will be at some point, 'cos it was really good. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: crazy critters
by mctag＠mcmail.com 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

Sorry duke didn't mean to sound so irate, and thanks to David and Katrina for agreeing, assuming you weren't being sarcastic, you weren't, were you? I guess my point wasn't that I thought that Tigermilk should or shouldn't come out in original sleeve, or whatever. It's just it doesn't matter that much. Now I don't actually own a copy, but I do have permanent access to one, so maybe I'm more blaze on the subject. I'd like to own the songs, yeah sure, but I was kind of hoping that these little chats we have were more driven by passion and optimism and love than for intellectualising what is simply beautiful. That was my point...I think most of you probably agree. Maybe that doesn't leave much room for discussion. Incidentally, anyone in Manchester wanting a fix could go worse than come to 'Smile' on a Saturday, where the DJ (no, it's not me) plays 8 or 9 B&S songs a night (or more if he can get away with it). You probably already know that, but come and say hello. That's all. Night night... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Another great idea - not
by klas.ericsson＠student.jmg.gu.se 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

About the promoideas: I ´m in it for the extra CD idea. But maybe not Tigermilk - how about a dub verison of "Slow Grafitti" (title of the next album, eh?) instead, just like Primal Screams "Echo Dek". How lovely wouldn´t a dub version of "Sleep the clock around" turn out? Or a drum n´bass version. Or perhaps a genuine country version featuring Johnny Cash... Or Willie Nelson... Coolest of all: A crooner version. Maybe B&S could hire in Scott Walker. Think about the great man starting to sing "Now listen sonny...". Vibrato heaven! Sorry. Had a bad weekend:-) Next competition: Most unlikely artist to cover Belle And Sebastian. How about that? ///Klas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: random thoughts
by MWaggner＠aol.com 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

All this talk about bands selling out and / or turning to crap -- I don't know... I think sometimes we fans forget that, in addition to being "artists," performers are also going about their "jobs." This is what they've chosen to make their living at and they have to pay for a home & food like the rest of us. Maybe they don't want to keep doing gigs at night and working all day at a crap job to keep body & soul together -- so they try to expand the fan base a bit (no matter how loyal and rabid a small group of fans may be, they're only able to purchase a small number of recordings and tickets). And let's not forget the "ego" of the artist. Not the "ego-mania" type of thing, but just the ability to do or create something that you believe people will want to see or hear. Certainly someone who gets up on a stage, or who records their music for sale, has a certain amount of "ego" or desire to be heard. Else they'd be sitting up in their attic like Emily Dickenson writing out lyrics on little pieces of paper and tying them up with ribbon. If you feel you have something to say it's natural that you want to say it to as large a number of people who will enjoy or understand it as possible. You can't fault an artist for trying to make a living out of something as fickle as catching the interest of the public for a time. It could all disappear in a moment. I believe some people "sell-out," but I think they meant to all along, and you can almost see it coming from the start. It wasn't about creation, but about marketing or whatever. Everyone has their favorite examples. But you can't accuse every talented band that hits big through that twist of fate or of being in the right place at the right time of "selling out." Or for trying to maximize their "profit" while they can. Some artists create crap from day one. Some create beautiful things for a time and then, sadly, just lose the spark that enabled them to create beauty. It's certainly sadder for the artist than for the fan, I would imagine. I say, give them all a break. Every one of them. Be glad for what they gave you when they did. And wish that B&S get their dream, -- fame, fortune, relative obscurity -- whatever it might be. (Sorry -- I just felt like defending the world tonight) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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